Zapping your power bill

October 28th, 2009 3:39 pm · 34 comments

Patriot News writes about how your electric bill is going up come January:

To cash-strapped PPL customers, the only aspect of electricity deregulation that will seem important on Jan. 1 will be the 30 percent jump in your bills.

This is a bad time to add more expenses to home budgets already on tilt — yet the electricity industry argues that 13 years after legislation was enacted, consumers will finally start to see the benefits of deregulation, despite the bitter pill of higher prices.

The benefits?

What, are we going to get better electricity or something? 

It’s a tough sell, and the industry knows it. But the industry’s leaders argue that the expiration of government-mandated rate caps that kept prices at 1996 levels is just a return to reality — and they say the rate caps were the very reason why the promises of deregulation haven’t been kept.

Consumer advocates have shifted from fighting the rate cap removal to coping with it. They’re hoping homeowners will learn to take advantage of money-saving opportunities, and that the higher prices will finally motivate consumers to use less energy.  And as the public displays anger, confusion or indifference toward the issue, the electric industry has been busy trying to explain why it’s all happening.

“A lot has changed” since 1996, said Ryan Hill, a PPL spokesman. “Customers haven’t seen that yet. They’re going to see that in 2010 now, and it’s going to be an adjustment for those customers.”

You bet it is. And at a time when those customers’ health care premiums are increasing, when trash bills are likely to go up, as gasoline prices climb back towards $3 per gallon - PPL is here to blow sunshine up our collective bottom.

See, your new higher electric bill will merely reflect “reality,” the real cost of power, a price which PPL couldn’t pass on to you because rates had been capped (though PPL nonetheless set a record for profitability under the caps, in 2007).

Now prices are uncapped, the profit motive is supposed to swing into full gear and we should have a whole slew of competitors crowding to sell you power.

So far, we’ve got one. Dominion Energy is offering 10 percent off PPL rates. There may be more; but even if there are, let’s say they match Dominion’s offer - that means at best, you’re paying 20 percent more for your electricity next year.

And not just you, but local companies. Governments. Here’s an aspect of this that the Patriot-News didn’t invoke, but the Morning Call did, talking to an economist:

”This is the worst possible time for consumers and businesses to take such a huge hike in their rates,” Afshar said. ”The result will obviously be that some businesses will have to cut elsewhere, possibly layoffs.”

Sweet.

This is going to hit like a brick, and I expect full-throated primal scream after the first of the year. But it’s too late. This is deregulation, this is a free(er) market. Does it benefit you, does it benefit society? That was all taken on faith. In a few months we’ll have the results.

Can’t wait to to see the Republican legislators waving the socialist banner in response.

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  34 comments  Tags: Deregulation · PPL · Economy · Pennsylvania

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Subsonix
10/28/09
3:54 PM
I thought you libs were all about conservation. You guys support taxes on candy bars and cow farts, but don't want to buy electricity at market prices. laugh.gif
newsjunkie
10/28/09
9:08 PM
QUOTE (Subsonix @ Oct 28 2009, 03:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I thought you libs were all about conservation. You guys support taxes on candy bars and cow farts, but don't want to buy electricity at market prices. laugh.gif


Did you miss the part about "record profits" while regulated? Just what "market" gets to deliver electricity on the ONE line that comes down my street in the PUBLIC ROW? Where's the electricity Bazaar? You 'conservatives" are SO ready to die on this "free market" hill...trouble is...you're taking us all with you...That's not a hill I'm ready to die on...The US was at it's most prosperous under a system of strong government regulation...and then came Reaganomics (voodoo economics ) and it's been downhill ever since...
Subsonix
10/28/09
10:50 PM
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Did you miss the part about "record profits" while regulated? 


No, but it looks like you did:

"a" record was set in 2007, not "the" record.

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The Allentown energy company earned $1.3 billion, or $3.40 per share, in 2007, compared to $865 million, or $2.24 per share, in 2006.


OK, they did better in 07 than in 06, fair enough.

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The whopping 51 percent increase -- a result of one-time gains on the sale of Latin American subsidiaries and higher profit margins on domestic electricity sales -- comes at a critical juncture for PPL.


Hmm... but they set that record after selling a whole bunch of subsidiaries. That's like saying my paycheck this week went up 500% because I sold my car.


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PPL also reaffirmed its forecast for record earnings of roughly $1.5 billion in 2010, the company's first fully deregulated year.


And it looks like they're going to do even better than the "record" next year, UNREGULATED.

I'll take it easy on you, I know you libs aren't big on numbers, details, or logic.
newsjunkie
10/28/09
11:16 PM
QUOTE (Subsonix @ Oct 28 2009, 10:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And it looks like they're going to do even better than the "record" next year, UNREGULATED.

I'll take it easy on you, I know you libs aren't big on numbers, details, or logic.


In other words they are already projecting their prices and markup...nothing about the effect of free market "competition"...more like...price fixing??? Oh, and no need to take it easy on me...I'm an engineer...and make my living with numbers, details, and logic....
(literally) you?
Bouquet
10/29/09
9:19 AM
QUOTE (Subsonix @ Oct 28 2009, 03:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I thought you libs were all about conservation. You guys support taxes on candy bars and cow farts, but don't want to buy electricity at market prices. laugh.gif


I have no problem paying for what the electricity costs. My problem is the extra $45 or so that is taken from me to be issued to stockholders as a dividend so the stock price goes up and the CEO can cash in on a year end bonus that is more than my family has had to live on for the past 10 years.

Electricity is a necessity and, like all necessities (health care, water, gas, etc), should be provided by the government because the profiteers cannot be trusted when their customers are in no position to say no to the product.
Subsonix
10/29/09
9:27 AM
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and make my living with numbers, details, and logic....
(literally) you?


Ditto.

So if PP&L is going to do better than ever next year, what are record profits in 07 supposed to convince me of? Any company that doesn't set profit records as a matter of routine is probably destined for a dirt nap, if for no other reason than inflation. Gil makes it sound like PP&L is cutting off their nose to spite their face.

Also, there's no telling how bad profits would have been that year if they were ditching their subsidiaries. Why did they sell them if they were doing so well?
richieRich
10/29/09
9:54 AM
I believe that during the time that electricity rates were capped, PP&L made-up all kind of bu**sh*t fees and charges not covered by the caps. Now that they can raise the electricity rates, are they going to drop all those "additional" made-up charges? No. They're in business to make money and they're going to do that any way they can. What can you do? Use less electricity. Shop for lowest competitive rates. Believe it or not, having the competition will help the consumer in the long run. If enough people do their homework and switch to the company with the lowest rate, PP&L will be forced to lower their rate. They will not be able to afford losing massive amounts of income from people switching companies. Remember, you are the Customer. cool.gif hahahehehaha

lj1511
10/29/09
10:16 AM
^^^^^^^^^

I would love to switch power companies in order to stick it to PPL, and create some competition. However, everyone of us in Lancaster county are stuck w/ PPL as there is no other option.

No free market in Lancaster!
Bouquet
10/29/09
10:23 AM
QUOTE (richieRich @ Oct 29 2009, 10:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What can you do? Use less electricity. Shop for lowest competitive rates.


Meanwhile on a conference call, the PPL CEO is speaking to all his "competitors": OK, so if we all agree to not charge less than this amount, we can all make a ton of money and give the illusion of competition. And remember, every year, we all agree to raise the rate 12% and we'll claim it's because of "market forces" or some such nonsense.
Now, the next step is to form an "advisory" board of all our executives and get a Republican politician to appoint us to "reform" electric laws in the state which we will use to destroy all consumer protections and prevent a real competitor from entering the market.
richieRich
10/29/09
11:03 AM
QUOTE (Bouquet @ Oct 29 2009, 11:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Meanwhile on a conference call, the PPL CEO is speaking to all his "competitors": OK, so if we all agree to not charge less than this amount, we can all make a ton of money and give the illusion of competition. And remember, every year, we all agree to raise the rate 12% and we'll claim it's because of "market forces" or some such nonsense.
Now, the next step is to form an "advisory" board of all our executives and get a Republican politician to appoint us to "reform" electric laws in the state which we will use to destroy all consumer protections and prevent a real competitor from entering the market.


Bouquet, I commend you. You're very insightful. However, there is that slight chance, since there's a ton of money involved, competitors will say one thing to each other, then lower their rate just to screw the others. Remember, they are thieves. Shopping for electricity, who woulda thunk! What's next, shopping for Postal Service? sad.gif hahahehehaha
Shirley U Geste
10/29/09
11:03 AM
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I would love to switch power companies in order to stick it to PPL, and create some competition. However, everyone of us in Lancaster county are stuck w/ PPL as there is no other option.


You do have a choice. You can choose who generates your electricity. You can not choose who delivers your electricity. You could generate your own electric if you so desire and charge PPL for any excess you place back on the grid.
lj1511
10/29/09
11:21 AM
QUOTE (Shirley U Geste @ Oct 29 2009, 12:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You do have a choice. You can choose who generates your electricity. You can not choose who delivers your electricity. You could generate your own electric if you so desire and charge PPL for any excess you place back on the grid.


This might be the case in some other areas, but not in Lancaster county. I've done my research, and even have an email from the PA Dept of Consumer Advocacy to prove it.

I trully would love it if you could prove me wrong and would thank you dearly.

www.oca.state.pa.us

Before starting my research I was already knowlegeable about the fact that PPL would still deliver the electricity and if I found another generating source I would in effect receive two different electric bills every month.
richieRich
10/29/09
11:32 AM
Hey, after some research, I found that PPL is actually stopping some of the "non-sense" chages/fees they made-up during rate caps. Wow!

"Transition charges that are currently applied to all PPL customers' bills will no longer be applied. These charges were awarded to PPL as a result of deregulation in Pennsylvania back in 1998 and have been collected via customers' billings for the last 10 years. PPL's Transition charges are listed on customers' bills as "Competitive Transition Charge" (CTC). Effective 1/1/2010, these charges will be eliminated from the bills. Transition charges range from approximately 12% to 18% of total PPL billings."

These charges should be given back to customers, retroactive to 1998.

To date, PPL has held five auctions purchasing power for an average price of approximately 10.3¢ per KWH for 2010. This represents approximately 83% of the power needed for 2010 and will be a substantial increase over what most customers are presently paying for generation. Since generation charges currently constitute more than 60% of the total bill in most cases, these increases will more than offset the impact of the phase out of the Transition charges.

Remember, when shopping for rates, in order to save money, you need to pick a company with a rate lower than $0.103 per KWH. Good luck! laugh.gif hahahehehaha

lj1511
10/30/09
11:15 AM
Anybody have any luck finding an alternative to PPL?
grieker
10/30/09
11:32 AM
QUOTE (lj1511 @ Oct 30 2009, 11:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Anybody have any luck finding an alternative to PPL?


SOLAR.
lj1511
10/30/09
11:54 AM
QUOTE (grieker @ Oct 30 2009, 12:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
SOLAR.



LOL...true, but we just emptied our pockets for a new HVAC system.
Save-the-Land
10/30/09
11:57 AM
QUOTE (newsjunkie @ Oct 28 2009, 10:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Did you miss the part about "record profits" while regulated? Just what "market" gets to deliver electricity on the ONE line that comes down my street in the PUBLIC ROW? Where's the electricity Bazaar? You 'conservatives" are SO ready to die on this "free market" hill...trouble is...you're taking us all with you...That's not a hill I'm ready to die on...The US was at it's most prosperous under a system of strong government regulation...and then came Reaganomics (voodoo economics ) and it's been downhill ever since...


Are you aware how much deregulation occurred during the Clinton years?????? The heyday of Wall Street deregulation....and looking the other way.

This is a USA problem.....not a Republican or Democrat problem.
RMacolyte
10/30/09
12:10 PM
It looks like Dominion Energy Solutions might be competing with PPL, but haven't announced pricing yet (promises include undercutting PPL by 10%).

www.dom.com/products

It doesn't look like anyone has jumped in to the deregulated market yet.
Shirley U Geste
10/30/09
8:07 PM
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This might be the case in some other areas, but not in Lancaster county. I've done my research, and even have an email from the PA Dept of Consumer Advocacy to prove it.

I trully would love it if you could prove me wrong and would thank you dearly.


http://www.dom.com/products/energy-offers/ppl-offer.jsp

http://www.firstenergysolutions.com/States...y_Info/PPL.html

http://www.libertypowercorp.com/service_areas/pa/


Be patient. Many more will start coming on board in 2010. True deregulation is only starting.
newsjunkie
10/30/09
8:18 PM
QUOTE (Save-the-Land @ Oct 30 2009, 11:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Are you aware how much deregulation occurred during the Clinton years?????? The heyday of Wall Street deregulation....and looking the other way.

This is a USA problem.....not a Republican or Democrat problem.


Yes , i followed the Enron fiasco while it was happening...and even called regulators and politicians trying to sound an alarm when California was "having blackouts because of their liberal policies and lack of foresight" (remember those days?) while I was living in North Carolina...I could see the shysters at work then....The reason I point out conservatives now is that they seem to be the ones who haven't yet seen the writing on the wall and are still buying this tripe...."free market and all that"
newsjunkie
10/30/09
9:16 PM
QUOTE (Shirley U Geste @ Oct 30 2009, 08:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>


I ask you...if you owned the ONE power transmission line going into people's homes AND generated electricity to sell...would you maximize your profits by LIMITING competitors who wanted to encroach on your good thing?..TRUE deregulation would allow this very likely scenario...is this what you are advocating? Or are you suggesting some guidelines and regulation...and if that's the case...who will be the arbiter of the regulation YOU think will be best (and best for whom?)
lanzate
10/30/09
10:20 PM
I don't understand how power companies can be privately run. This in infrastructure. What's our government going to do next, sell off the road in front of my house and then i have to pay a toll to pull out of my driveway? Are my gas taxes lower because the main interstate across PA is a privately owned toll road?? Still makes me angry every time I have to drive that road. Why do blue states tend to have more toll roads?

I just don't get how you can buy electric from anywhere when most of the cost per kwatt is in delivery to your house. What makes this really strange is that I just learned the poles in front on my house are not owned by PPL. They belong to D&E soon to be owned by some company in the Georgia i think. I guess PPL must pay rent for using them. One blew over this summer. August 18th to be exact. It still has not been fixed. They straightened it and tied it with a single rope to my neighbors tree in their back yard. I'm just waiting for a wind storm to come from the other direction and take the pole into our houses since the base is clearly cracked and weakened. It makes me wonder how common it is that the telephone company owns the poles. I was talking to a soon to be laid off D&E employee recently. He said telephone company days are numbered. When the 20 somethings of the country reach 30 or 40 something there will simply not be enough land line phone customers to justify the upkeep of the lines. I think waiting 3+ months to replace a cracked pole is part of what we can expect.

And so PPL is about to be hit from multiple sides. Profits are up now but what happens when they can not share the load of pole repair with the telephone company? What happens when Obama implements his idea of making dirty coal power generation "so expensive" they will be forced to upgrade power companies which will also cost billions sure to be passed on to the consumer. Obama likes deregulation because otherwise there would be no way to place the fines that he wants to put on these guys like at PPL.

Nativeson
10/31/09
12:19 AM
QUOTE (lj1511 @ Oct 30 2009, 11:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Anybody have any luck finding an alternative to PPL?

Honda generator.
LangesterLuke
10/31/09
9:40 AM
QUOTE (lj1511 @ Oct 30 2009, 12:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Anybody have any luck finding an alternative to PPL?


I'm thing about building magnetic generators soon, look for my ad !
Then you'll be able to sell power back to PPL.
Bustina di tè
10/31/09
7:30 PM
Friend just finished up solar panels on his garage, he will be getting a healthy rebate from the state to apply to the costs of the installation.
grieker
11/1/09
8:09 PM
QUOTE (Bustina di tè @ Oct 31 2009, 07:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Friend just finished up solar panels on his garage, he will be getting a healthy rebate from the state to apply to the costs of the installation.


Healthy rebate! Ha! Let us know what the rebate is and what the cost was. Educated guess would be for a 5KW solar system installed is approximately $21,000.00 and the rebate would be approximately 10% of that.

I'm waiting until Obama provides them for us at no charge. Should be just around the corner - next stimilus bill or maybe the third one.
Shirley U Geste
11/2/09
9:24 AM
For the $21,000, is he going to charge a D battery or run one light bulb?
Nativeson
11/2/09
2:54 PM
QUOTE (Shirley U Geste @ Nov 2 2009, 09:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
For the $21,000, is he going to charge a D battery or run one light bulb?

The last time I looked an array with that price tag produced the amount of power a $1000 Honda generator produces but only until the sun goes down.
Shirley U Geste
11/2/09
3:32 PM
What about a cloudy day?

What if you have no southern exposure?

What is the cost to store that electricty until you use it?
grieker
11/2/09
4:03 PM
QUOTE (Shirley U Geste @ Nov 2 2009, 04:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE
What about a cloudy day?
Screwed

QUOTE
What if you have no southern exposure?
Screwed

QUOTE
What is the cost to store that electricty until you use it?
The $21K includes that.
lj1511
11/2/09
4:04 PM
QUOTE (Shirley U Geste @ Oct 30 2009, 09:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>



Dominion and First Energy still aren't capable of being a residential supplier (in Lancaster County) and the Liberty Power Corp is for businesses...the following linked page of statistics give a good glimpse of the 'power' hold that PPL has on its customers.

http://www.oca.state.pa.us/Industry/Electr...s/Stats1009.pdf
Shirley U Geste
11/3/09
6:59 AM
I signed up for Dominion for our residence in Lancaster.

It is easy. Do it online. Nothing changes except that you will pay 10% less then PPL starting January 1, 2010. You will only get one bill from PPL. You may cancel at any time without penalty.

The only kicker is they are only accepting 5000 new customers.

So you can continue to live in denial and pay PPL next year or you could save 10%.

Not rocket science.
sportsnut1662
11/3/09
7:52 PM
Has anyone else switched? I am also considering Dominion, FWIW.
gsmart
11/3/09
9:30 PM
QUOTE (Subsonix @ Oct 28 2009, 11:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hmm... but they set that record after selling a whole bunch of subsidiaries. That's like saying my paycheck this week went up 500% because I sold my car.


Sure, but let's ask the next question:

Why does PPL own a Latin American subsidy, and exactly why should that cost be factored into what people in Central Pennsylvania are paying?

Lanzate is correct: This is infrastructure. If a terrorist were to hit privately owned facilities, how much would the taxpayer be on the hook for? But I'm growing convinced that the answer isn't to reregulate PPL or other power companies, but to say: screw them. Take your business elsewhere or even better, do it yourself if you can.
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