Behind the outrage

September 12th, 2009 5:31 pm · 23 comments

So there’s this big teabag protest going on down in DC today, more of what we’ve seen. But this photo in particular, from the Washington Independent, really struck me:

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You know, I know these people. Not this woman in particular; maybe not even of the people who are actually at the rally. But I know people like them. I love people like them, I am related to some of them. I know who they are, and I know where this sentiment comes from.

They are middle class, but slipping. For some reason, they attribute none of the erosion in their standard of living to the Republican Party. Yes, if you get into a detailed discussion with them they’ll acknowledge that both parties bear responsibility - which is true. But they never hold the Republican Party culpable to the same degree they want to blame the Democrats. There are reasons for this, which we’ll get into in a moment.

They really do feel only Fox News is giving them the truth. The reality is, only Fox News gives them the truth as they want it. Objectively, it’s impossible to believe that all other sources of television news - MSNBC and CNN and ABC Nightly News and CBS and NBC - are biased, and this one channel is the sole truth-teller. But they really do believe that. Because they want to.

A great many of these people used to be Democrats, but Ronald Reagan changed that. Or, they came of age politically in the time of Reagan, or in the shadow of his memory and legacy. Bottom line, they see Reagan as one of the truly titanic presidents in our nation’s history, and if they’re old enough they remember the malaise under Carter, the loss of Vietnam, the sense of national decline in the 1970s that Reagan stopped. Reagan made America proud again - made them proud again. They are forever in his debt for that, forever in his party’s debt.

They are angry, but they’re not really clear on what they’re angry about. Government spending? Mention the degree to which it took off under Bush and you get a blank look. Socialism? A good number of them depend upon Medicare. I know several - it’s amazing, really - who work for government at some level, and enjoy a level of benefits, sometime in retirement, completely unknown to us in the private sector.

They are cheerleaders for “capitalism” even though they are among capitalism’s victims. If they or a spouse has managed to claw their way to a public job - with ironclad benefits - they somehow believe that this is a product of capitalism.

There’s an ideological incoherence. What are their beliefs? And the reality is - and I don’t think I’m being too harsh here, I think this is true - their beliefs are whatever Fox News says they are. They are absolutely capable of mourning the unanimity of “9/12,” as Glenn Beck calls it. But then they back Beck when he calls the president a racist, not understanding that Beck, and ultimately they themselves, are helping to undermine the unity they supposedly mourn.

And in the end, there’s anger. They didn’t vote for change, but now change is being foisted upon them and they greatly resent it. They refuse to hold the party of Reagan culpable for anything. Bush has been completely erased from the memory bank. They were huge Bush supporters - now it’s as if he never existed. Bush’s failures were his failures; not their own. They supported him wildly, voted for him gladly… and bear no culpability whatsoever for him.

Indeed, I think they see the Obama presidency as a repudiation not just of Bush, but of themselves - which is one of the big things they resent. How dare you. How dare you say Republicans screwed up. I’ll watch Fox News where it’s all the Democrats fault, and then not only do I have to not take any personal responsibility for the Bush years - I can pretend there’s nothing to take responsibility for, that all of this - the spending, the state of the nation - can be pinned on Obama and Nancy Pelosi. As if they just got here.

It’s a very simple and simplistic view but then these are simple people. And they see it all slipping away. The America they knew - Reagan’s America - is fading into the rearview mirrow. Their country’s place in the world isn’t as secure; their place in the world is less secure. They want a restoration but they know in their hearts that they can’t turn back the clock, that not just America but the world has changed immeasurably. Morning in America inevitably turns to eve. They know this.

They fight viciously but they realize, deep down, that their fight is already lost. That’s why they’re so angry. It’s an anger borne of despair.

And as the despair grows, so too will the anger.

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  23 comments  Tags: Tea parties · Conservatism · Fox News

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hyleasfan
9/12/09
6:29 PM
Gil, don't try and polish a turd.
Bustina di tè
9/12/09
7:39 PM
Sounds like the O-bots too.
They only believe Chris, Kieth and Rachel despite the DNA coursing down their legs as they wax eloquent, or in Olbermann's case scream insanely, over Obama.
How many of them (O-bots, not Baggers) believe the Clintons are racist?
See also my This Is Rich post where I quote Boston.com.
reese
9/12/09
9:20 PM
QUOTE (Bustina di tè @ Sep 12 2009, 07:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sounds like the O-bots too.
They only believe Chris, Kieth and Rachel despite the DNA coursing down their legs as they wax eloquent, or in Olbermann's case scream insanely, over Obama.
How many of them (O-bots, not Baggers) believe the Clintons are racist?
See also my This Is Rich post where I quote Boston.com.


What is an O-bot? You must not actually watch Chris, Keith or Rachel.. If you did you'd know that Chris and Rachel both have been routinely criticizing the president for backing down on his health care promises.

Since I don't know who or what an O-bot is, I have no idea whether or not they're racists. What are you, a Clinton-bot?
O311mc
9/12/09
9:27 PM
QUOTE (reese @ Sep 12 2009, 10:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What is an O-bot? You must not actually watch Chris, Keith or Rachel.. If you did you'd know that Chris and Rachel both have been routinely criticizing the president for backing down on his health care promises.

Since I don't know who or what an O-bot is, I have no idea whether or not they're racists. What are you, a Clinton-bot?



zing! thats gonna leave a mark.
reese
9/12/09
9:36 PM
QUOTE (O311mc @ Sep 12 2009, 09:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
zing! thats gonna leave a mark.



I'm getting a bit tired of this "righteous indignation" folly.
O311mc
9/12/09
9:43 PM
QUOTE (reese @ Sep 12 2009, 09:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm getting a bit tired of this "righteous indignation" folly.


certain things one just has to learn to take a the proverbial grain of salt. The first two or three words of certain posts quickly fade into something akin to the teacher on Charlie Brown, wa, wa, wawa, wa. Most days I can just blow it off, some days I'll shoot back, all depends on how willing I am to play that particular day.
reese
9/12/09
9:54 PM
QUOTE (O311mc @ Sep 12 2009, 09:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
certain things one just has to learn to take a the proverbial grain of salt. The first two or three words of certain posts quickly fade into something akin to the teacher on Charlie Brown, wa, wa, wawa, wa. Most days I can just blow it off, some days I'll shoot back, all depends on how willing I am to play that particular day.



LALALALA...I can't hear you, I have my fingers in my ears! laugh.gif

Like that, eh?
O311mc
9/12/09
10:04 PM
QUOTE (reese @ Sep 12 2009, 09:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
LALALALA...I can't hear you, I have my fingers in my ears! laugh.gif

Like that, eh?


I think when busty's butt hurt dial goes up around 9.5 or so she whines in a pitch that I just can't tune in to. She's kinda like "white noise", but there are other times that I do agree with some of her posts.
Save-the-Land
9/12/09
10:46 PM
Gil - Thanks to you...and other Democrats constantly telling me (and so many other Americans) that my outrage over certain Obama styled policies is just manufactured and fake rage. Thanks for insulting my intelligence and crediting any oppostion I hold to Obama's policies as racism...or because Fox News told me to. You are underestimating many Americans. Not just conservative Republicans, but also many independents and conservative Dems.

You liberal Dems always are so condesending.....you know best...any opposition is just stupid people yelling loudly. Sorry Gil. Your schtick is grwoing old. Could you please report on some good local issues...maybe uncovering some of the hypocrital actions of your employer and the bully tactics they use.
skeptic2
9/12/09
10:54 PM
So the health care debate is complex and, while we can agree on what we want to accomplish, we should acknowledge that there are many ways to go about doing so. And we have barely touched on controlling the growth of the Medicare program so that it has a reasonable chance of surviving.

The Republicans have ideas- everything from wellness, to better disease management, to end-of-life care planning to ideas that would help to control cost of the Medicare program. They just had a golden opportunity to help bring about some tort reform.

Instead what are they talking about? Somehow they want to convince people that the current reform efforts are substantially about immigration and paying for abortion.

It's really about the least common denominator- what will people understand and pay most attention to. And it's about a party that can't articulate a better message and still motivate people to take action.
gsmart
9/13/09
12:47 AM
QUOTE (Save-the-Land @ Sep 12 2009, 11:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Gil - Thanks to you...and other Democrats constantly telling me (and so many other Americans) that my outrage over certain Obama styled policies is just manufactured and fake rage.


No dude, there's nothing fake about it, it's 110 percent real American fury. There's just no cohesive "there" behind it besides hate Obama - that's the problem.

I tell you what - everyone at these protests screaming about socialism who's on medicare should be required to give up Medicare. Because that's socialism. Isn't it? These folks want "socialism" to mean whatever they want it to mean - socialism is about someone else getting something they don't deserve, whereas my socialism, that's all hard-won and legitimate.

Sum up the tea party movement in one sentence for me. This is the right's equivalent of the Vietnam anti-war movement, the primal rage of the radicals. Then it was stop the war; now it's stop Obama. Then it was policy; now it's personal.
skeptic2
9/13/09
6:38 AM
QUOTE (gsmart @ Sep 13 2009, 12:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
No dude, there's nothing fake about it, it's 110 percent real American fury. There's just no cohesive &quot;there&quot; behind it besides hate Obama - that's the problem. I tell you what - everyone at these protests screaming about socialism who's on medicare should be required to give up Medicare. Because that's socialism. Isn't it? These folks want &quot;socialism&quot; to mean whatever they want it to mean - socialism is about someone else getting something they don't deserve, whereas my socialism, that's all hard-won and legitimate. Sum up the tea party movement in one sentence for me. This is the right's equivalent of the Vietnam anti-war movement, the primal rage of the radicals. Then it was stop the war; now it's stop Obama. Then it was policy; now it's personal.
So Gil, you're not dismissing this as just more astroturfing. But Freedom Works has dubious corporate connections and the event had enormous publicity thanks to Glenn Beck. I didn't see any live coverage though.
ArtVandolay
9/13/09
8:18 AM
The left have to wondering - "where are we?" "Why don't we have a movement?"

Up to two million people marched to the U.S. Capitol today, carrying signs with slogans such as "Obamacare makes me sick" as they protested the president's health care plan and what they say is out-of-control spending.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/...onstration.html
skeptic2
9/13/09
10:29 AM
"Bury health care reform with Kennedy"

Seen on a sign yesterday- nice, you're a real credit to your country.
reese
9/13/09
10:37 AM
QUOTE (skeptic2 @ Sep 13 2009, 10:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
"Bury health care reform with Kennedy"

Seen on a sign yesterday- nice, you're a real credit to your country.


That was nice. I saw that too.

Those people are a credit to their party. rolleyes.gif
doghead
9/13/09
11:11 AM
QUOTE (skeptic2 @ Sep 13 2009, 11:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
"Bury health care reform with Kennedy"

Seen on a sign yesterday- nice, you're a real credit to your country.



The teabaggers are revolting . laugh.gif
Pericles
9/13/09
11:46 AM
QUOTE (gsmart @ Sep 13 2009, 01:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Then it was policy; now it's personal.

Then it was legitmate, now it's not? Now it is defined as personal, which is a very convenient way to dismiss the valid points that are being made.

Obama is extremely liberal. He's probably the most liberal president that we ever had. Doesn't that count for anything? No, of course not.
notveryhow
9/13/09
12:04 PM
Signs from yesterdays 9/12 rally.

The Tree of Liberty Must Be Refreshed Now and Then...

And Pennsylvanians are armed and ready.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3449/391280..._75156cee9d.jpg

We Come Unarmed, This Time

http://www.flickr.com/photos/42406957@N04/...57622225596987/

Bury Obamacare With Kennedy
(From the anti-abortion American Life League)

http://www.flickr.com/photos/42406957@N04/...57622225596987/

Many more. Pick your favorites.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/42406957@N04/

So this is how Beck's people intend to restore unity to the nation!
doghead
9/13/09
12:13 PM
QUOTE (Pericles @ Sep 13 2009, 12:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Then it was legitmate, now it's not? Now it is defined as personal, which is a very convenient way to dismiss the valid points that are being made.

Obama is extremely liberal. He's probably the most liberal president that we ever had. Doesn't that count for anything? No, of course not.



The valids points , and they do have valid points that should be discussed, are dismissed because of the actions of the people at the town hall meetings and the shout of "you lie" by one of their leaders, and the tone and message of the signs they carry.
They are doing themelves in and what should be alarming is that there is not one national republican leader willing to stand up and say "Enough of the theatrics, it's backfiring on you.You are perceived as being crazy and in politics perception is everything."
We should be having a dialogue but the lobbyists and shills for the insurance companies that are driving this don't want dialogue because that leads to compromise which will end up regulating insurance companies.
notveryhow
9/13/09
12:25 PM
QUOTE (Pericles @ Sep 13 2009, 12:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Then it was legitmate, now it's not? Now it is defined as personal, which is a very convenient way to dismiss the valid points that are being made.

Obama is extremely liberal. He's probably the most liberal president that we ever had. Doesn't that count for anything? No, of course not.


The opposition to the war transferred from LBJ to Nixon seamlessly, because the opposition was to the war.

The opposition to Obama, as "a secret Muslim, a Racist, Socialist, Marxist, Fascist, what have you", transferred seamlessly from the campaign trail, to attack him as the president-Elect, and then in January to attack him as President. After 8 years with their thumbs up their butts, the "fiscal conservatives" revived themselves enough to attack Obama's spending and organize "tea-parties", calling President Obama a "Racist, secret Muslim, Socialist, Marxist, Fascist, what have you". Then along comes health care, and they are attacking Obama as a "Racist, Socialist, Marxist, Fascist, what have you". Ditto with National Service (Brownshirts and FEMA camps) Cap and Trade, and even a speech to schoolchildren, for God's sake.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to conclude that the object of attack is not really policy, but Obama.
Bustina di tè
9/13/09
2:06 PM
QUOTE (reese @ Sep 12 2009, 09:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What is an O-bot? You must not actually watch Chris, Keith or Rachel.. If you did you'd know that Chris and Rachel both have been routinely criticizing the president for backing down on his health care promises. ...

Really?




QUOTE
Since I don't know who or what an O-bot is, I have no idea whether or not they're racists. What are you, a Clinton-bot?


RIF
I typed:
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How many of them (O-bots, not Baggers) believe the Clintons are racist?


That is quite different than your quote, but then that's to be expected, getting it completely wrong.

Ya gotta luv it when reese and four short of the Ides of March mc gettheir panties in a bunch. tongue.gif
Bustina di tè
9/13/09
2:17 PM
QUOTE (skeptic2 @ Sep 13 2009, 10:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
"Bury health care reform with Kennedy"

Seen on a sign yesterday- nice, you're a real credit to your country.

Bad enough to have a sign like that but to give it to a child?
The guy behind her?
He's holding his breath in protest, you can tell because his mouth is closed. laugh.gif
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reese
9/13/09
2:37 PM
QUOTE (Bustina di tè @ Sep 13 2009, 02:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Really?






RIF
I typed:


That is quite different than your quote, but then that's to be expected, getting it completely wrong.

Ya gotta luv it when reese and four short of the Ides of March mc gettheir panties in a bunch. tongue.gif



I'm not at all upset. You're the one who seems to need blood pressure meds.


QUOTE (reese @ Sep 13 2009, 02:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm not at all upset. You're the one who seems to need blood pressure meds.


Oh, and good job. You tagged me for making a mistake. I'm sure I'll make another. Someday.
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