All about Joe

September 10th, 2009 1:32 pm · 12 comments

Amazing how last night’s policy speech has become all Wilson, all the time. That’s not necessarily a bad thing, though.

You define yourself, in part, by your enemies - and the Republicans these days have become downright cartoonish. On the one hand, you’ve got an intelligent president, able to articulate his ideas, calmly and patiently making his case to the nation. On the other, it’s: “You lie!” It’s all resistance. No thought, no ideas; just reaction.

And so for the great non-ideological middle, the silent Americans, this becomes about Republican behavior. They may have quibbles with the president’s plan, or all the president’s plans; but the juvenile antics of the “I hope he fails” crowd does not appear to present a legitimate governing alternative. Can these people, so quick to fly off the handle, be trusted with the country?

Said it before and will say it again: The most important ideological shift of my lifetime began when I was just a child, when that great silent majority began to decide that the lefties of its era - the Abbie Hoffmans and Jerry Rubins - had gone too far, and that if they were what “the left” had to offer - silent Americans would steer right. It was the beginning of nearly four decades of conservative ascendency.

The same process, only in reverse, is happening now.

The right is Joe Wilson; it is Glenn Beck; it is the people who called to demand that your local school refrain from showing the “lying” president to the kids earlier this week. To your average suburban parent - this is crazy. They are crazy. It doesn’t take as much now to affect the same sea change that happened then - the right doens’t have to get to the point of Weathermen bombing (though they ultimately might), because of the sheer ubiquity of media now. Everything’s amplified; with the Wilson case, the more ink and cable TV time he gets, the greater the impression he makes. And while he’s a Fox News Hero, lemme tell ya, out in the suburbs - this ain’t the kind of thing you want your kids to emulate. This isn’t a great moment in American history you want to share with your child. Great men, great nations, reason together. There’s no place in Joe Wilson’s Republican Party for that now; that frightens people, turns them off and turns them away. Conservatives can’t see it. Abbie Hoffman couldn’t see it back then, either.

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skeptic2
9/10/09
5:05 PM
How much money has his opponent raised- last I heard it was 300,000.
doghead
9/10/09
5:33 PM
"Said it before and will say it again: The most important ideological shift of my lifetime began when I was just a child, when that great silent majority began to decide that the lefties of its era - the Abbie Hoffmans and Jerry Rubins - had gone too far, and that if they were what "the left" had to offer - silent Americans would steer right. It was the beginning of nearly four decades of conservative ascendency".---- Gilbert Smart

Both Rubin and Hoffman were agents provocateurs in the employ of Nixon to disrupt the democratic convention and turn off what Nixon would later brand the "silent majority", in my opinion. Nixon was afraid he couldn't win on the strengths he possessed so he felt that in order to win he had to make the other side look terrible, a lesson he learned when he lost to JFK.
Bush Dubya employed the same stratedgy for the same reasons: make Gore and Kerry look bad rather than to speak about Bush's accomplishments which were too few and too flimsy in import. Interestingly enough, Karl Rove got his start working for Tricky Dicky.
That being said Obama is finally learning the game and the shoutout from the goober only served to make Obama look good and the repubs look bad, in the eyes of the American public which can't be bothered with paying attention to details.
The big picture : Obama is da boss, and repubs are reduced to tantrums.
skeptic2
9/10/09
6:08 PM
According to CNN, it's up to 400,000.
Twisted
9/10/09
6:40 PM
So let me get this right...my child was prevented from seeing the President's speech directed to students because the school got a few complaints from outraged parents who seem to not have a clue and buckled. On a different note, a representative of the Republican party, whom I'm guessing most of the outraged parents are a part of, stood up during a live Presidential speech to congress and heckled the president like a 5 year old. Presidents addressing school aged kids...bad. President getting screamed at from a childish adult...good. Glad to see our priorities are strait.

And who is going to be the representative of the Realist party?
citydweller
9/10/09
7:01 PM
QUOTE (Twisted @ Sep 10 2009, 06:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And who is going to be the representative of the Realist party?


A fellow named Harvey. He's a white rabbit about 7 feet tall and usually invisible.
Twisted
9/10/09
7:16 PM
QUOTE (citydweller @ Sep 10 2009, 07:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
A fellow named Harvey. He's a white rabbit about 7 feet tall and usually invisible.



I think I met him at a party once. Nice guy. Lots of kids.

I haven't considered myself a political person but the current state of the Union, as someone else put it, has awakened the sleeping giant. Earlier in week I find out that my son's school was denied the ability to see the President's speech, that would be the President of United States that they pledge allegiance to every morning, and now a professional politician does this...in public, on the biggest stage they could find. The office of the Presidency deserves a certain amount of respect even if you don't agree with the politics of the person holding it.
ArtVandolay
9/11/09
1:38 PM
QUOTE (skeptic2 @ Sep 10 2009, 06:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
According to CNN, it's up to 400,000.



Works both ways:

CNN) -- Less than a day after Rep. Joe Wilson formally apologized to President Obama over his "you lie" outburst, a campaign aide confirms that the South Carolina Republican has raised "more than $200,000" in the wake of the now-infamous moment.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/09/11/wil...sing/index.html
skeptic2
9/11/09
4:54 PM
QUOTE (ArtVandolay @ Sep 11 2009, 01:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Works both ways:

CNN) -- Less than a day after Rep. Joe Wilson formally apologized to President Obama over his "you lie" outburst, a campaign aide confirms that the South Carolina Republican has raised "more than $200,000" in the wake of the now-infamous moment.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/09/11/wil...sing/index.html


it's over 500,000 for Miller, Costanza

the conservatives are cheapos
reese
9/11/09
8:19 PM
QUOTE (Twisted @ Sep 10 2009, 07:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think I met him at a party once. Nice guy. Lots of kids.

I haven't considered myself a political person but the current state of the Union, as someone else put it, has awakened the sleeping giant. Earlier in week I find out that my son's school was denied the ability to see the President's speech, that would be the President of United States that they pledge allegiance to every morning, and now a professional politician does this...in public, on the biggest stage they could find. The office of the Presidency deserves a certain amount of respect even if you don't agree with the politics of the person holding it.


Hear, hear.
Artie See
9/11/09
8:45 PM
QUOTE (citydweller @ Sep 10 2009, 07:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
A fellow named Harvey. He's a white rabbit about 7 feet tall and usually invisible.

Sorry, but Jimmy Stewart died in 1997.
skeptic2
9/11/09
9:33 PM
25,000 individual contributions totalling over $1,000,000. Also, a poll done in Wilson's district shows Miller ahead by one point. Fourteen months is a long time, but that district is not as conservative as more rural parts of SC and that's a lot of money.
Bustina di tè
9/12/09
12:11 PM
QUOTE
You define yourself, in part, by your enemies - and the Republicans these days have become downright cartoonish. On the one hand, you’ve got an intelligent president, able to articulate his ideas, calmly and patiently making his case to the nation. On the other, it’s: “You lie!” It’s all resistance. No thought, no ideas; just reaction.

Uhhh ... Gil? Bill Clinton has been out of office since 2001.
What we got now is a product of the Chicago political machine that gives good teleprompter.
Just thought you would like to know.
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