The big questions
September 2nd, 2009 2:45 pm · 6 comments
Thomas Frank gets at one big reason the Democrats are losing the health care debate, something we’ll get into in the print edition this week. But he echoes something we said a few weeks ago:
Those who have insurance, the argument goes, have it because they’ve played by the rules. Sure, insurance is expensive, but being prudent people, they recognized that they needed it, and so they worked hard, chose good employers, and got insurance privately, the way you’re supposed to.
Those who don’t have what they need, on the other hand, should have thought of that before they chose a toxic life of fast food and fast morals. Healthiness is, in this sense, how the market tests your compliance with its rules, and the idea of having to bail out those who failed the test—why, the suggestion itself is offensive. We have all heard some version of the concluding line, usually delivered in the key of fury: By what right do you ask me to pay for someone else’s health care?
Notes Frank:
Yes, Democrats can prove that America pays more for health care than other countries; yes, they have won the dispute that private health insurance is needlessly expensive. But what they’ve lost is the argument that we are a society.
Obama could have framed it that way from the get-go - We are doing what’s best for America. Ask what you can do for your country. He still could.
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There are currently 6 comments on this blog postView Topic | Comment on this blogArtie See 9/2/09 5:33 PM | In other words, survival of the fittest. Let them die.
What a Christian attitude that is...  |
Salva Veritate 9/2/09 5:56 PM | Post your thoughts and comments about this blog post. So what does Thomas Frank have to say regarding people who had worked for good companies and to no fault of their own, those companies either closed or moved to another country?
Pathetic A-hole! |
skeptic2 9/2/09 6:07 PM | It's remarkable that we keep busting on American automakers because they aren't competitive and, in particular, can't compete with foreign companies who set up shop in the US. Our insurance system penalizes companies with older employees and Detroit has to deal with the cost of retirees.
These foreign companies do provide decent benefits and they make good products in the US (e.g. Honda, Toyota and Nissan). But, will they keep making cars here when their work force ages, some start to retire and the cost of healthcare goes up (never mind that some have sweetheart deals with states that are time-limited) or will they move production elsewhere? |
doghead 9/2/09 6:12 PM | In other words, survival of the fittest. Let them die. What a Christian attitude that is... 
Hey that's christian bashing when you point out that some christian don't follow Jesus in any way, shape , or form. At least they are "pro life" except when it costs an insurance company money.  |
reese 9/2/09 8:08 PM | We're a long way from "...ask not what your country can do for you. Ask what you can do for your country."
The level of selfishness and disregard for others I see today truly frightens me. I hate to think what this country will look like 10 years from now. |
lanzate 9/2/09 9:09 PM | Health care reform is dead on arrival. It was dead when Hillary tried it and it is dead now for the same reasons. Just follow the money. Almost all money in health care passes through insurance companies. We are talking billions and billions here. Something like 20% of our GDP. Pharmaceutical and insurance companies make billions, doctors and hospitals make millions. Why is it so expensive for health care here? Easy, just look at how many people have to touch the money and how much those people make. How much does a doctor in Canada make vs. here.
People are just dancing around words in the health care debate so far. A public health care insurance plan that insures all but does not address cost will bankrupt the country. There is no way around that unless people start talking about something real. Limit doctors and nurses salaries like they do in europe and canada. Bring government control to cost of medication. If you want health care for everyone that is the only way. There is simply no country on earth that has a socialized health care system and then has health care workers setting their own salaries and hospitals and pharmaceutical companies swimming in cash.
Everyone talks like you are unchristian and just cold by not wanting reform but still no one talks about the real issues. Personally i like socialized medicine, i was part of it for 4 years in Japan and it worked for my wife and i, but Obama's plan will never work. He is not talking about the hard stuff because everyone who is rolling in money with the current system is paying him off, so the plan will die.
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