The end is nigh

August 6th, 2009 12:39 pm · 9 comments

In five parts, actually.

Slate.com been running a veddy interesting series this week on how the U.S. might come to an end, if the U.S. were to come to an end. Part 1 was environmental catastrophe; yesterday’s bit was secession; today’s bit is totalitarian rule. What particularly piqued my interest was Josh Levin’s invocation of American slippage as a path to fascism; he points to a book by Benjamin M. Friedman called The Moral Consequences of Economic Growth - and this, a review from the Amazon.com page, rang a very loud bell:

[Friedman] contends that periods of robust economic growth, in which most people see their circumstances palpably improving, foster tolerance, democracy and generous public support for the disadvantaged. Economic stagnation and insecurity, by contrast, usher in distrust, retrenchment and reaction, as well as a tightfisted callousness toward the poor and—from the nativism of 19th-century Populists to the white supremacist movement of the 1980s—a scapegoating of immigrants and minorities.

That the rise of the Fox News right - “reaction” - should parallel middle class economic stagnation makes perfect sense. It will get worse.

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  9 comments  Tags: Fascism · Wingers · Environment

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citydweller
8/6/09
2:34 PM
For those who didn't follow Gil's link to Slate's totalitarian bit (worth reading), a couple snippets worth considering both locally and as a nation. The premise behind these statements is a "what would it take" scenario leading to a totalitarian America.

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A future, authoritarian U.S. would not look like Putin's Russia. Our old Cold War foe never became a true democracy after the Soviet era, so its backsliding this century is a predictable reversion to forms of governance that go back to the time of the czars. One potential similarity to watch out for, though, is a puffed-up military and surveillance apparatus.


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Along with building up an overt military presence, the American Putin will seed the country with cameras—it's easier than ever to use technology to suppress dissent—and undercover agents. "Our country is led by people who were trained as spies," a brave member of the Russian opposition told the BBC in 2006. "The trouble is, ordinary people just don't care."


And the closing statement just screams so right now:

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Phase 5: Steamroll a compliant populace.
That's the final ingredient: For a totalitarian takeover to take root here, ordinary people would have to let it happen. At America's totalitarian tipping point, we'll face a fundamental conflict between our freedom-loving past and our patriotic urge to see the United States continue its run as the world's most-powerful nation. The specter of America's death could frighten people into doing what they'd otherwise consider unthinkable. We'd demonize a foe we don't understand. We'd nod solemnly as the president suspended elections on account of national security. We'd sign away our civil liberties, because there are dangerous people in our midst. And we'd lose our country because we cared too much about saving it.


Worth thinking about, if you're still able to think.
Nick Danger
8/6/09
6:54 PM
I highly recommend Ben Friedman's book.

It's well worth reading and re-reading.
Weyland Yutani
8/6/09
9:12 PM
I highly recommend you guys put down the crack pipe......
I would be more concerned about statements like this....

"We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we've set," he said Wednesday. "We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well funded."....



Artie See
8/6/09
9:26 PM
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...it's easier than ever to use technology to suppress dissent...

Suppress dissent?

By repeatedly publishing heavily biased and intentionally misleading stories?

By ignoring serious issues time and again, while constantly promoting false hype?

By repeatedly attacking concerned citizens, and making fun of their serious questions?

By mounting a devastating and lengthy public relations campaign against public officials who were only trying to do the job that they were elected to do?

It is not difficult to see that dissent in Lancaster City and County has been effectively suppressed for decades. It is no wonder that certain powerful groups and individuals are convinced that they can get away with pushing through projects like surveillance cameras and streetcars.
backagain
8/6/09
9:40 PM
QUOTE (Weyland Yutani @ Aug 6 2009, 09:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I highly recommend you guys put down the crack pipe......
I would be more concerned about statements like this....

"We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we've set," he said Wednesday. "We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well funded."....


Very Concerned!
BuffaloBill
8/7/09
8:08 AM
Oooo you cannot reach me now,
Oooo no matter how you try.
Goodbye cruel world, its over.
Walk on by.

Sitting in a bunker,
Here behind my wall,
Waiting for the worms to come. ( worms to come. )
In perfect isolation,
Here behind my wall,
Waiting for the worms to come. ( worms to come. )

Waiting, to cut out the deadwood.
Waiting, to clean up the city.
Waiting, to follow the worms...
notveryhow
8/7/09
8:37 AM
QUOTE (Weyland Yutani @ Aug 6 2009, 09:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I highly recommend you guys put down the crack pipe......
I would be more concerned about statements like this....

"We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we've set," he said Wednesday. "We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well funded."....


Ah, but context is EVERYTHING! You'd think that reasonable people would get curious about a hinky sounding statement and try to find out what the real meaning of a quote.

http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/is_o...n_national.html
Weyland Yutani
8/7/09
9:13 PM
I know exactly what context it was used in, and when he used it. It still concerns me that he said it. If you want to "walk it back" , go ahead.
Bustina di tè
8/8/09
1:03 AM
Silly Weyland, this is Obunko playing 11th dimensional chess*, he's counting the ACLU to sue so a precedent is set and no "civilian security force" is ever created ... ever.

Actually where we are headed is toward an oligarchy, we will be controlled by a congress subservient to Wall Street banksters.

Mandatory purchase of health insurance is the first step.













* As played on the planet Uranus.
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