Palin resigns

July 3rd, 2009 3:32 pm · 111 comments

Hm. It’s one thing to not run in 2010, setting yourself up for a presidential run instead. It’s another thing to quit before your current term is up. Maybe another shoe yet to drop?

Update: Josh Marshall following pretty closely. Something is up here. This is pretty much the ultimate news dump - 4 p.m. on the Friday before the Fourth of July.

Update II: The vid. It’s all the evil lib’rul media’s fault.

Gov. Winky, if you can’t deal with Letterman or Olbermann, how in the world could you handle Ahmadinejad?

Update IV: Over at Marshall’s place:

Andrea Mitchell says sources close to Gov. Palin say she is now “out of politics for good.”

As he says: Nothing suspicious about that.

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Artie See
7/3/09
4:19 PM
QUOTE (Lancaster Online @ Jul 3 2009, 03:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hm. It’s one thing to not run in 2010, setting yourself up for a presidential run instead. It’s another thing to quit before your current term is up. Maybe another shoe yet to drop?

Leaving office before her first term is completed will NOT help her chances to win national elections. Mrs. Palin hasn't held a high-profile elected office long enough to establish either the track record or the credibility needed to hold on to a spot on the national stage.

This unanticipated announcement certainly does raise the suspicion that "maybe another shoe is yet to drop", as Gil mentioned. I hope for her sake - and the sake of her family - that she's not resigning so suddenly in an attempt to avoid the public exposure of some kind of unpleasantness.
Kate
7/3/09
4:36 PM
I believe Palin is resigning to run for the 2012 nomination rather than try to run a campaign and a state at the same time.

Admirable on her part but in the end fool hardy.
Weyland Yutani
7/3/09
4:56 PM
[quote name='Artie See' date='Jul 3 2009, 04:19 PM' post='583477']
Leaving office before her first term is completed will NOT help her chances to win national elections. Mrs. Palin hasn't held a high-profile elected office long enough to establish either the track record or the credibility needed to hold on to a spot on the national stage. blink.gif

That strategy worked just fine for Pres. Teleprompter..... rolleyes.gif
doghead
7/3/09
5:13 PM
When the dirt comes out, and it will, just in case I am sleeping or working:

I TOLD YOU SO!!!!!
I love when the sanctimonious trip over their own dicks.
387
7/3/09
5:17 PM
That strategy worked just fine for Pres. Teleprompter..... rolleyes.gif
[/quote]

That is priceless! I just wish I had thought of it. Kudos!
harv1
7/3/09
5:23 PM
Perhaps because Alaska is in the top three states facing a crumbling state government and massive deficits (worse than California) maybe Sarah Palin is distancing herself from that mess when 2012 rolls around. We hear a lot about California ... Alaska is in even worse shape.

3. Alaska
Highest Estimate FY 2010 Gap: $1.350 billion
Percent of General Fund: 30%

Highest Estimate FY 2009 Gap: $1.520 billion*
Percent of General Fund: 21.0%

2007 Total Tax Revenue: $12.477 billion
Debt at end of FY 2007: $6.533 billion

*Current FY 2009 estimates are off the highs and predict a $746 million budget gap.

Edited to add: President Teleprompter, eh? President Backpack Wireless Ear Piece led the way...
O311mc
7/3/09
5:32 PM
QUOTE (doghead @ Jul 3 2009, 06:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
When the dirt comes out, and it will, just in case I am sleeping or working:

I TOLD YOU SO!!!!!
I love when the sanctimonious trip over their own dicks.


Mrs Palin is gonna trip over her own dick? Those should be some interesting pictures
runutz
7/3/09
5:40 PM
QUOTE (O311mc @ Jul 3 2009, 05:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Mrs Palin is gonna trip over her own dick? Those should be some interesting pictures

It's really Todd's, but she only lets him borrow it occasionally.

ETA: Somebody is no doubt furiously Photoshopping as we speak.
skeptic2
7/3/09
5:44 PM
She quit because of harassment from MNEPATS on talkback
Hope
7/3/09
5:51 PM
QUOTE (Kate @ Jul 3 2009, 04:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I believe Palin is resigning to run for the 2012 nomination rather than try to run a campaign and a state at the same time.

Admirable on her part but in the end fool hardy.


I don't think it's admirable, I think it shows her as a quitter. Elected officials ask for our vote with the assumption that, if elected, they will serve a full term barring any health issues of course. We don't elect them just to quit so that they can move on to higher offices.
O311mc
7/3/09
6:01 PM
QUOTE (runutz @ Jul 3 2009, 06:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It's really Todd's, but she only lets him borrow it occasionally.

ETA: Somebody is no doubt furiously Photoshopping as we speak.


citydweller is hard at it, no doubt. (no pun intended)
reese
7/3/09
6:03 PM
She's quitting because, in her own words, she "refuses to be a lame-duck governor"? Well, okey-dokey. When the going gets tough...

I never much cared for her, but this really is the very definition of "lame." You don't just quit because you don't feel like finishing. This seems like yet another stunt to get the spotlight, again.
O311mc
7/3/09
6:09 PM
QUOTE (reese @ Jul 3 2009, 07:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
She's quitting because, in her own words, she "refuses to be a lame-duck governor"? Well, okey-dokey. When the going gets tough...

I never much cared for her, but this really is the very definition of "lame." You don't just quit because you don't feel like finishing. This seems like yet another stunt to get the spotlight, again.



maybe the ACLU will defend her? tongue.gif
StrobeSML
7/3/09
6:09 PM
To paraphrase Richard Nixon, you won't have Sarah Palin to kick around anymore. (Of course, I expect her to stay to that as much as the later President Nixon did. The difference? Palin doesn't have a chance.)
lanzate
7/3/09
6:15 PM
Why do lefty's have to act like they are in middle school?


What is wrong with taking her words for what they are? Her kids want her back and they don't like being trashed by talk show hosts, so she is going home.

I didn't hear her say anything about another run for any office.

reese
7/3/09
6:18 PM
QUOTE (O311mc @ Jul 3 2009, 06:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
maybe the ACLU will defend her? tongue.gif


Well, I wouldn't like it, but I would be OK with it. tongue.gif


QUOTE (lanzate @ Jul 3 2009, 06:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Why do lefty's have to act like they are in middle school?


What is wrong with taking her words for what they are? Her kids want her back and they don't like being trashed by talk show hosts, so she is going home.

I didn't hear her say anything about another run for any office.


Lefties just talk like it, unlike righties like, oh, let's see, Sanford, Newt, Mr. Wide-Stance-In-A-Stall, etc., who behave like they are in middle school.
citydweller
7/3/09
6:23 PM
She may be sadly mistaken if she thinks leaving office will protect her from ongoing investigations. Unless of course her Lt. Gov pardons her, which would be political suicide.

QUOTE (O311mc @ Jul 3 2009, 06:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
citydweller is hard at it, no doubt. (no pun intended)


Sorry no photoshop on the store computer. sad.gif
Chance
7/3/09
6:26 PM
Good riddance to bad trash. How she ever got to where she is shows how anyone can be elected to office. ohmy.gif
O311mc
7/3/09
6:27 PM
QUOTE (citydweller @ Jul 3 2009, 06:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
She may be sadly mistaken if she thinks leaving office will protect her from ongoing investigations. Unless of course her Lt. Gov pardons her, which would be political suicide.



Sorry no photoshop on the store computer. sad.gif


no hurry, I can wait for more Christ in a sidecar level funny.
reese
7/3/09
6:32 PM
QUOTE (O311mc @ Jul 3 2009, 06:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
no hurry, I can wait for more Christ in a sidecar level funny.


OMG, that really was funny. It was so weird and unexpected.
citizen-too
7/3/09
6:32 PM
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QUOTE (O311mc @ Jul 3 2009, 05:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Mrs Palin is gonna trip over her own dick? Those should be some interesting pictures
dowhatyoulike
7/3/09
6:54 PM
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Thanks to NellaSelim at dKos.
reese
7/3/09
6:55 PM
QUOTE (dowhatyoulike @ Jul 3 2009, 06:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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Thanks to NellaSelim at dKos.
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Classic.
O311mc
7/3/09
6:56 PM
QUOTE (dowhatyoulike @ Jul 3 2009, 07:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
[attachment=5043:Bullwinkle1_1.jpg]

Thanks to NellaSelim at dKos.



badazz
why?
7/3/09
7:03 PM
QUOTE (lanzate @ Jul 3 2009, 06:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What is wrong with taking her words for what they are? Her kids want her back and they don't like being trashed by talk show hosts, so she is going home.


if this were indeed the truth, what would she have done as vice-president?

"sorry, the kids are upset, gotta run."

it's not like she doesn't have the time to be with them now- if she were the vice-president, she would have had even less time.

nope, sorry, that "explanation" simply doesn't cut it with me.
there's something else going on.
Goldilocks
7/3/09
7:11 PM
QUOTE (reese @ Jul 3 2009, 05:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Lefties just talk like it, unlike righties like, oh, let's see, Sanford, Newt, Mr. Wide-Stance-In-A-Stall, etc., who behave like they are in middle school.


Yeah right, What do you call clinton's behavior? Oh and what about the Kennedy, drinking, driving, and letting a beautiful young woman drown. I don't think the lefties have any room to talk.

QUOTE
nope, sorry, that "explanation" simply doesn't cut it with me.
there's something else going on.


I have to admit that something else may be going on. Surely Palin knows that resigning isn't going to stop the left from continuing to attack her kids.


dowhatyoulike
7/3/09
7:13 PM
That whole story about the amniotic fluid leak in Texas, two 4 hour plane trips, then traveling to a hospital other than the nearest one for delivery of Trig makes absolutely no sense. So that baby was likely Bristol's. And too many people know the truth. That's the big lie, the other shoe that's gonna drop.

http://www.palindeception.com/blog/
why?
7/3/09
7:16 PM
QUOTE (Goldilocks @ Jul 3 2009, 07:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah right, What do you call clinton's behavior? Oh and what about the Kennedy, drinking, driving, and letting a beautiful young woman drown. I don't think the lefties have any room to talk.

Maybe Palin is protecting her kids from the attacks of the luntic left. Good luck to her, because I don't think her resigning will stop them from spitting out their poison aganst them.


and AGAIN- what would she have done were she NOW VICE-PRESIDENT?

honestly.

and just btw, kennedy was never president, and never really stood the chance of becoming one.
let's not just knee jerk to the tune of a label, okay?
Goldilocks
7/3/09
7:25 PM
QUOTE (dowhatyoulike @ Jul 3 2009, 06:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That whole story about the amniotic fluid leak in Texas, two 4 hour plane trips, then traveling to a hospital other than the nearest one for delivery of Trig makes absolutely no sense. So that baby was likely Bristol's. And too many people know the truth. That's the big lie, the other shoe that's gonna drop.

http://www.palindeception.com/blog/


I don't think that would hold out, unless Bristol's gestational cycle is different from all other women on this earth. Wasn't Bristol about 4 or 5 months pregnant when Palin started her run for Vice President. And wasn't Trig about 4 or 5 months old at that time as well?
reese
7/3/09
7:39 PM
QUOTE (Goldilocks @ Jul 3 2009, 07:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah right, What do you call clinton's behavior? Oh and what about the Kennedy, drinking, driving, and letting a beautiful young woman drown. I don't think the lefties have any room to talk.





I have to admit that something else may be going on. Surely Palin knows that resigning isn't going to stop the left from continuing to attack her kids.


It certainly would hurt if the truth were to come out about something. That should only happen to liberals, in your little world. Call the ACLU and complain about being portrayed unfairly; maybe they'll give you a fair hearing.
Kate
7/3/09
7:41 PM
QUOTE (Hope @ Jul 3 2009, 05:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't think it's admirable, I think it shows her as a quitter. Elected officials ask for our vote with the assumption that, if elected, they will serve a full term barring any health issues of course. We don't elect them just to quit so that they can move on to higher offices.

Ya got a point there Hope................ wink.gif
O311mc
7/3/09
7:41 PM
QUOTE (reese @ Jul 3 2009, 08:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It certainly would hurt if the truth were to come out about something. That should only happen to liberals, in your little world. Call the ACLU and complain about being portrayed unfairly; maybe they'll give you a fair hearing.


do you think she is hiding something?

one side of me wants cuss her out for grabbing centerstage for yet more political debauchery.That will probably end up on our tab.
Buuuutt,,,,, I would feel like crap squared, if she really has some legit family emergency that requires her to leave office. gotta wait and see I guess.
reese
7/3/09
7:52 PM
QUOTE (O311mc @ Jul 3 2009, 07:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
do you think she is hiding something?


Maybe. Mostly I'm tired of Goldi pretending that conservatives are the only paragons of virtue. Based on Palin's rather bizarre press conference, I think there's something going on. Taking today's events and then reflecting on recent history (the Letterman incident) I am beginning to wonder if there isn't "something" going on. I'm just speculating. It all just seems a little too over-the-top.
Goldilocks
7/3/09
7:55 PM
QUOTE (reese @ Jul 3 2009, 06:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It certainly would hurt if the truth were to come out about something. That should only happen to liberals, in your little world. Call the ACLU and complain about being portrayed unfairly; maybe they'll give you a fair hearing.


I suppose the ACLU would defend Linda Kellen Biegel, the official Democrat Party blogger for Alaska, who doctored the photo of little Baby Trig Palin. Yes, Ms. Biegel’s First Amendment rights would dictate she can do that. But it speaks volumes of the lengths the left will go to, in order to attack Palin. Using her children as their means to attack is downright despicable.

What would your response be, were someone to doctor a picture of the Obama’a kids and make them look creepy?





QUOTE (reese @ Jul 3 2009, 06:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Maybe. Mostly I'm tired of Goldi pretending that conservatives are the only paragons of virtue.


I never said that. And I am tired of you pretending that liberals are the only paragons of virtue, as well.

As far as I am concerned, there isn't any room to talk on both sides.



reese
7/3/09
8:05 PM
QUOTE (Goldilocks @ Jul 3 2009, 07:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I suppose the ACLU would defend Linda Kellen Biegel, the official Democrat Party blogger for Alaska, who doctored the photo of little Baby Trig Palin. Yes, Ms. Biegel’s First Amendment rights would dictate she can do that. But it speaks volumes of the lengths the left will go to, in order to attack Palin. Using her children as their means to attack is downright despicable.

What would your response be, were someone to doctor a picture of the Obama’a kids and make them look creepy?







I never said that. And I am tired of you pretending that liberals are the only paragons of virtue, as well.

As far as I am concerned, there isn't any room to talk on both sides.


Despicable. Just as it would be for anyone's kids. Of course, you think I'd approve of what happened to the photo of Trig. That's because you assume the worst of me. You know nothing. And I never said liberals were virtuous; if you bothered to read at all, I criticize both sides. Your mind is just closed and you see only what you want.




Salva Veritate
7/3/09
8:18 PM
QUOTE (reese @ Jul 3 2009, 07:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Lefties just talk like it, unlike righties like, oh, let's see, Sanford, Newt, Mr. Wide-Stance-In-A-Stall, etc., who behave like they are in middle school.

LOL! What's wrong with a "wide stance in a stall" and tapping your foot?

QUOTE (why? @ Jul 3 2009, 08:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
nope, sorry, that "explanation" simply doesn't cut it with me.
there's something else going on.

Maybe she's coming out of the closet?
Salva Veritate
7/3/09
8:28 PM
QUOTE (reese @ Jul 3 2009, 09:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Despicable. Just as it would be for anyone's kids. Of course, you think I'd approve of what happened to the photo of Trig. That's because you assume the worst of me. You know nothing. And I never said liberals were virtuous; if you bothered to read at all, I criticize both sides. Your mind is just closed and you see only what you want.

Would this cat fight be worth watching? Pay Per View event? Ok, just kidding!!

*edited for spelling*
Goldilocks
7/3/09
8:38 PM
QUOTE (reese @ Jul 3 2009, 07:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Your mind is just closed and you see only what you want.


LOL....look in the mirror.


reese
7/3/09
9:04 PM
QUOTE (Salva Veritate @ Jul 3 2009, 08:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Would this cat fight be worth watching? Pay Per View event? Ok, just kidding!!

*edited for spelling*


Do you prefer mud or jello? laugh.gif
Chance
7/3/09
9:08 PM
QUOTE (Salva Veritate @ Jul 3 2009, 09:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Would this cat fight be worth watching? Pay Per View event? Ok, just kidding!!

*edited for spelling*

Salva don't egg them on. Ladies knock it off.
Fizz
7/3/09
9:08 PM
My favorite part: "we can all learn from our selfless Troops... they're bold, they don't give up, they take a stand and know that life is short so they choose to not waste time. They choose to be productive and to serve something greater than self..."

I agree with everything she said about our troops.

Yet her actions, now and in the past, are directly antithetical to everything she is praising them for. She is not being bold, she is giving up, she is not taking a stand, and she has wasted her time (mostly whining about how the media has been unfair to her). And she is putting herself before her elected office.

And I love how she condemned the political climate as "superficial wasteful political bloodsport" when she was the first to talk about how she was the attack dog. "What's the difference between a pit bull and a hockey mom? Lipstick." Yet she's about as thin-skinned as they come.
reese
7/3/09
9:42 PM
QUOTE (Fizz @ Jul 3 2009, 09:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
My favorite part: "we can all learn from our selfless Troops... they're bold, they don't give up, they take a stand and know that life is short so they choose to not waste time. They choose to be productive and to serve something greater than self..."

I agree with everything she said about our troops.

Yet her actions, now and in the past, are directly antithetical to everything she is praising them for. She is not being bold, she is giving up, she is not taking a stand, and she has wasted her time (mostly whining about how the media has been unfair to her). And she is putting herself before her elected office.

And I love how she condemned the political climate as "superficial wasteful political bloodsport" when she was the first to talk about how she was the attack dog. "What's the difference between a pit bull and a hockey mom? Lipstick." Yet she's about as thin-skinned as they come.


I tried to watch that press conference with a completely open mind. Wow. I just couldn't follow the thread of it; it had to be one of the most tangential political speeches I've ever seen. Had I not already known she'd resigned, I would have been totally gobsmacked.

I don't think she's doing herself any favors by resigning. It makes her look undisciplined, and that speech made her look a bit scatterbrained.
ceejay
7/3/09
10:00 PM
QUOTE (reese @ Jul 3 2009, 09:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I tried to watch that press conference with a completely open mind. Wow. I just couldn't follow the thread of it; it had to be one of the most tangential political speeches I've ever seen. Had I not already known she'd resigned, I would have been totally gobsmacked.

I don't think she's doing herself any favors by resigning. It makes her look undisciplined, and that speech made her look a bit scatterbrained.

Which is so completely out of character, out of left-field, and totally out of nowhere, that I am utterly shocked! Shocked, I tell you!




(please tell me I don't need those sarcasm emoticons!)

QUOTE (O311mc @ Jul 3 2009, 05:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Mrs Palin is gonna trip over her own dick? Those should be some interesting pictures

Cheney, silly! tongue.gif
runutz
7/3/09
10:14 PM
QUOTE (Salva Veritate @ Jul 3 2009, 08:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Maybe she's coming out of the closet?

I'd buy that for a dollar.
Kate
7/3/09
10:39 PM
QUOTE (newc_R_o_W2010 @ Jul 3 2009, 10:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What do you think of this?

http://www.breitbart.tv/virginia-tv-statio...p-cap-trade-ad/

Obama: "Under my plan of a cap & trade system, electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket."

"new c_R_o_W??? Is this Steve Markel??? unsure.gif
Kate
7/3/09
11:05 PM
Did WGAL send Susan Shapiro to Wasilla Alaska on special assignment?

She was reporting live from there regarding Palin's resignation.

WGAL spending big bucks for this...................
Bustina di tè
7/3/09
11:18 PM
QUOTE (Chance @ Jul 3 2009, 06:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Good riddance to bad trash. How she ever got to where she is shows how anyone can be elected to office. ohmy.gif


... like Barack Obunko? He didn't stick out his term in the Senate either. Come to think of it he rarely showed up for work because he was too busy running for president, but he kept the pay checks.
If Sarah Palin left office to further her career at least she had the fortitude to do so.
Didn't Kerry and Joe Biden both run for the Senate as well as prexy and vice prexy?

QUOTE (Goldilocks @ Jul 3 2009, 07:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't think that would hold out, unless Bristol's gestational cycle is different from all other women on this earth. Wasn't Bristol about 4 or 5 months pregnant when Palin started her run for Vice President. And wasn't Trig about 4 or 5 months old at that time as well?


Yeah but O-bots were never ones for letting the facts get in the way of their delusions.

QUOTE (Salva Veritate @ Jul 3 2009, 08:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
LOL! What's wrong with a "wide stance in a stall" and tapping your foot?


Maybe she's coming out of the closet?


Just ask Larry Sinclair. laugh.gif

QUOTE (Kate @ Jul 3 2009, 11:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Did WGAL send Susan Shapiro to Wasilla Alaska on special assignment?

She was reporting live from there regarding Palin's resignation.

WGAL spending big bucks for this...................


Gil wanted to go so they put him on a bus.
harv1
7/3/09
11:40 PM
Couldn't the whole thing really be a political distancing from Alaska's economic problems? We are inundated about California's deficits... Alaska is in worse shape. To resign and remove herself from Alaska's economic problems could be in prep for 2012. Schwartzenegger is losing favor with everyone because of the economic woes. And Palin's state is in worse shape. I personally feel this is a political ploy. As for it being 'personal'... The past couple weeks of Ensign and Sanford et al have sort of dulled the public's interest.

Yet I still read of Kennedy and Chappaquidick all these years later... when in fact a lot of us, liberal or conservative, wouldn't vote for him for dog catcher. I guess in Massachusetts, he brings home the goods and he keeps getting elected. All politics is local: Bill Goodling proved it along with many others. We tend to forgive or rationalize politicians whose transgressions don't trump their voting record when it's right up our own ideological alley. Laura Bush mowed down her ex-boyfriend and killed him. I wouldn't vote for her for dogcatcher either...
Daisy Lee Myers
7/3/09
11:51 PM
hmm..

Palin campaign slogan for 2012:

I CAN'T run a STATE, but I CAN run a COUNTRY!
doghead
7/4/09
2:11 AM
QUOTE (Goldilocks @ Jul 3 2009, 07:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I never said that. And I am tired of you pretending that liberals are the only paragons of virtue, as well.

Liberals and Lefties don't go around moralizing while practicing the same thing they preach against. The list is long of those who condemned Clinton while engaging in the most awful moral behavior themselves.

Remember when Gingrich came out and said he would talk about Clinton's moral failures everyday to drive the point home? He was engaged in adultery at that time.
I love when hypocrites fall down go boom.
There's a poetic justice in the end.
Good riddance Sara Palin.
Hopefully there is real dirt and she is not just positioning herself to be in our faces for the next 4 years. I don't need no lectures from the likes of her, thanks you very much.

QUOTE (Daisy Lee Myers @ Jul 3 2009, 11:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
hmm..

Palin campaign slogan for 2012:

I CAN'T ruin a STATE, but I CAN ruin a COUNTRY!



Please accept my apologies. I just couldn't resist.
Daisy Lee Myers
7/4/09
2:11 AM
QUOTE (harv1 @ Jul 3 2009, 11:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Couldn't the whole thing really be a political distancing from Alaska's economic problems? We are inundated about California's deficits... Alaska is in worse shape. To resign and remove herself from Alaska's economic problems could be in prep for 2012. Schwartzenegger is losing favor with everyone because of the economic woes. And Palin's state is in worse shape. I personally feel this is a political ploy. As for it being 'personal'





Palin decision mystifies some, cheers others: news/politics | adn.com


"Either Sarah Palin is leaving the people of Alaska high and dry to pursue her long-shot national political ambitions, or she simply can't handle the job now that her popularity has dimmed and oil revenues are down," said Democratic National Committee spokesman Hari Sevugan."




http://www.adn.com/1305/story/852787.html


Shirley U Geste
7/4/09
5:55 AM
QUOTE
Liberals and Lefties don't go around moralizing while practicing the same thing they preach against.

Really? Could have fooled me. See it every single day.
doghead
7/4/09
7:22 AM
QUOTE (Shirley U Geste @ Jul 4 2009, 05:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Really? Could have fooled me. See it every single day.



Which Liberals were loudly condemning Clinton's moral lapses while engaging in adultery themselves?
That seems to be a conservative trait, although I am no sure if having gay sex and sex with young boys, like the republicans have done is considered adultery. laugh.gif
It is enjoyable to watch a blowhard fall down, his hypocrisy evident.
Rush Limbaugh, Newt, John Ensign, Mark Sanders, Larry Craig, etc etc.
The party of moral values? laugh.gif
I hope yours are higher.
Pericles
7/4/09
7:38 AM
QUOTE (Hope @ Jul 3 2009, 06:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't think it's admirable, I think it shows her as a quitter. Elected officials ask for our vote with the assumption that, if elected, they will serve a full term barring any health issues of course. We don't elect them just to quit so that they can move on to higher offices.


I agree with that. Although Palin is able to draw huge crowds, I've never been impressed, and that's coming from a very conservative Republican.
Pericles
7/4/09
7:43 AM
QUOTE (doghead @ Jul 4 2009, 03:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Liberals and Lefties don't go around moralizing while practicing the same thing they preach against.

I've never heard a liberal rail against the evils of wall street, then make millions from some wall street firm.
Goldilocks
7/4/09
8:36 AM
QUOTE (doghead @ Jul 4 2009, 06:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That seems to be a conservative trait, although I am no sure if having gay sex and sex with young boys, like the republicans have done is considered adultery. laugh.gif


Really, could you post some links to hard evidence, that Republicans were having sex with young minor boys.














Beth
7/4/09
9:02 AM
QUOTE (Daisy Lee Myers @ Jul 3 2009, 11:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
hmm..

Palin campaign slogan for 2012:

I CAN'T run a STATE, but I CAN run a COUNTRY!


That has a fun ring to it!! Are ye interested in printin' up some shirts with that on!?! Hats would do right nicely! Or how about on the seat of some sweat pants, we want the young girls to get in on this, too!

-said with in my best Tina Fey voice! wink.gif
Salva Veritate
7/4/09
9:19 AM
QUOTE (reese @ Jul 3 2009, 10:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Do you prefer mud or jello? laugh.gif

Could you split the two? An hour of mud, and an hour of jello? laugh.gif
notveryhow
7/4/09
9:21 AM
QUOTE (Pericles @ Jul 4 2009, 07:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I've never heard a liberal rail against the evils of wall street, then make millions from some wall street firm.


I've noticed that too.The Republicans are supposed to be the party of business yet it seems the Democrats are the ones getting rich. And the liberal Democrats are supposed to be the party of perverts but it's the Republicans who keep getting caught with their pants down.

Funny world, huh?
doghead
7/4/09
9:38 AM
QUOTE (Goldilocks @ Jul 4 2009, 08:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Really, could you post some links to hard evidence, that Republicans were having sex with young minor boys.

Mark Foley. Republican. Florida
Google it if you like.
Shirley U Geste
7/4/09
9:54 AM
Neither party has a lock on this subject.

These names ring any bells?

Clinton, Edwards, Hart, McGreevey, Mills, Condit, Reynolds, Kennedy, Spitzer, Studds, Frank, Richmond?
Goldilocks
7/4/09
10:12 AM
QUOTE (doghead @ Jul 4 2009, 08:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Mark Foley. Republican. Florida
Google it if you like.



Mark Foley sent suggestive e-mails to minor pages, however the investigation of Foley was closed, because there was insufficient evidence to pursue criminal charges. It is thought he had sex with older ex-pages.

I find what Foley did, despicable, however no where could I find that Foley had sex with young minor boys. Your statement that Republicans, Foley included, had sex with young boys isn’t true, unless you can provide some hard evidence.


Fizz
7/4/09
10:41 AM
Ah, the straw man is alive and well in this thread...
Prodigal son
7/4/09
10:47 AM
QUOTE (Daisy Lee Myers @ Jul 4 2009, 12:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
hmm..

Palin campaign slogan for 2012:

I CAN'T run a STATE, but I CAN run a COUNTRY!

Maybe she resigned to run the country of Africa
Daisy Lee Myers
7/4/09
10:48 AM
QUOTE (Beth @ Jul 4 2009, 09:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That has a fun ring to it!! Are ye interested in printin' up some shirts with that on!?! Hats would do right nicely! Or how about on the seat of some sweat pants, we want the young girls to get in on this, too!

-said with in my best Tina Fey voice! wink.gif


hmm..

i may just do it on a white tee with red LETTERS
or a bumper sticker:

Palin 2012:

i CAN'T run a STATE, but i CAN run a COUNTRY!
Bustina di tè
7/4/09
10:56 AM
Ya gotta luv it.
The "progressives" on Talkback speculating on the vilest of reasons for Sarah Palin's bombshell of an announcement Friday.
As to the economic woes (suffered by every state in the union) at least Alaska has a budget. laugh.gif
Where's ours?
Some have characterized her speech as incoherent and rambling, I guess her teleprompter was on the fritz. Just like Obunko's in his finest moments.
Remember she doesn't have a cardboard cut out groping speech writer to put hope and change in her mouth. laugh.gif
This is, or was, a governor that wants to end same sex benefits for the employees of her state but when she had the chance vetoed legislation because her Attorney General said it was unconstitutional. How many other governors would have the courage to pizz off a large part of their constituency to do what is right?
Think back to Obunko's stint in the Illinois legislature and all his "Present" votes on controversial issues.
Is there a sacandal brewing?
I don't know, I'm not a mind reader like some of you O-bots posting here.
Is she stepping away from an upcoming fiscal train wreck in Alaska?
I'm not a finance or budget expert so I don't know the answer to that either.
What I do know is that you O-bots are having a field day. Just remember what goes around comes around. As been pointed out republican hypocrisy has bit them in the men's room stall and karma can be nasty. Pat Fitzgerald's investigation into the sewer of Chicago Machine politics has snagged two of Obunko's associates, Tony Rezko and Rod Blagojevich and he isn't finished.

QUOTE (Daisy Lee Myers @ Jul 4 2009, 10:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
hmm..

i may just do it on a white tee with red LETTERS
or a bumper sticker:

Palin 2012:

i CAN'T run a STATE, but i CAN run a COUNTRY!


So can Obunko, run a state that is. Into the ground. laugh.gif
Daisy Lee Myers
7/4/09
11:10 AM
fyi

READ Alaska Daily News message board after "sorting out" Palin speech!?

Transcript of Palin's speech | adn.com

http://community.adn.com/adn/node/142176
Kate
7/4/09
11:28 AM
This is why she is leaving the governor's office:


QUOTE
Political operatives descended on Alaska last August, digging for dirt. The ethics law I championed became their weapon of choice. Over the past nine months I've been accused of all sorts of frivolous ethics violations – such as holding a fish in a photograph, wearing a jacket with a logo on it, and answering reporters’ questions.

Every one – all 15 of the ethics complaints have been dismissed. We’ve won! But it hasn't been cheap - the State has wasted THOUSANDS of hours of YOUR time and shelled out some two million of YOUR dollars to respond to “opposition research” – that’s money NOT going to fund teachers or troopers – or safer roads. And this political absurdity, the “politics of personal destruction” … Todd and I are looking at more than half a million dollars in legal bills in order to set the record straight. And what about the people who offer up these silly accusations? It doesn’t cost them a dime so they’re not going to stop draining public resources – spending other peoples’ money in their game.

It’s pretty insane – my staff and I spend most of our day dealing with THIS instead of progressing our state now. I know I promised no more “politics as usual,” but THIS isn’t what anyone had in mind for ALASKA.

If I have learned one thing: LIFE is about choices!

And one chooses how to react to circumstances. You can choose to engage in things that tear down, or build up. I choose to work very hard on a path for fruitfulness and productivity. I choose NOT to tear down and waste precious time; but to build UP this state and our country, and her industrious, generous, patriotic, free people!

Life is too short to compromise time and resources... it may be tempting and more comfortable to just keep your head down, plod along, and appease those who demand: "Sit down and shut up", but that's the worthless, easy path; that's a quitter's way out. And a problem in our country today is apathy. It would be apathetic to just hunker down and “go with the flow”.
Kate
7/4/09
11:34 AM


More from Palin's speech. A personally admire what she is saying in her decision to step down. Say what you will, she has a conscience that very few legislators have.
QUOTE
If I have learned one thing: LIFE is about choices!

And one chooses how to react to circumstances. You can choose to engage in things that tear down, or build up. I choose to work very hard on a path for fruitfulness and productivity. I choose NOT to tear down and waste precious time; but to build UP this state and our country, and her industrious, generous, patriotic, free people!

Life is too short to compromise time and resources... it may be tempting and more comfortable to just keep your head down, plod along, and appease those who demand: "Sit down and shut up", but that's the worthless, easy path; that's a quitter's way out. And a problem in our country today is apathy. It would be apathetic to just hunker down and “go with the flow”.

Nah, only dead fish "go with the flow".

No. Productive, fulfilled people determine where to put their efforts, choosing to wisely utilize precious time... to BUILD UP.

And there is such a need to BUILD up and FIGHT for our state and our country. I choose to FIGHT for it! And I'll work hard for others who still believe in free enterprise and smaller government; strong national security for our country and support for our troops; energy independence; and for those who will protect freedom and equality and LIFE... I'll work for and campaign for those PROUD to be American, and those who are INSPIRED by our ideals and won't deride them.

I WILL support others who seek to serve, in or out of office, for the RIGHT reasons, and I don't care what party they're in or no party at all. Inside Alaska – or Outside Alaska.

But I won’t do it from the Governor’s desk.

I've never believed that I, nor anyone else, needs a title to do this - to make a difference... to HELP people. So I choose, for my State and my family, more "freedom" to progress, all the way around... so that Alaska may progress... I will not seek re-election as Governor.

And so as I thought about this announcement that I wouldn’t run for re-election and what it means for Alaska, I thought about how much fun some governors have as lame ducks… travel around the state, to the Lower 48 (maybe), overseas on international trade – as so many politicians do. And then I thought – that’s what’s wrong – many just accept that lame duck status, hit the road, draw the paycheck, and “milk it”. I’m not putting Alaska through that – I promised efficiencies and effectiveness! ? That’s not how I am wired. I am not wired to operate under the same old “politics as usual.” I promised that four years ago – and I meant it.

It’s not what is best for Alaska.

I am determined to take the right path for Alaska even though it is unconventional and not so comfortable.

With this announcement that I am not seeking re-election… I’ve determined it’s best to transfer the authority of governor to Lieutenant Governor Parnell; and I am willing to do so, so that this administration – with its positive agenda, its accomplishments, and its successful road to an incredible future – can continue without interruption and with great administrative and legislative success.

My choice is to take a stand and effect change – not hit our heads against the wall and watch valuable state time and money, millions of your dollars, go down the drain in this new environment. Rather, we know we can effect positive change outside government at this moment in time, on another scale, and actually make a difference for our priorities – and so we will, for Alaskans and for Americans
.

Daisy Lee Myers
7/4/09
11:37 AM
no way kate..

it is the "BENJAMINS" that she will make in the private sector..

a book out in the SPRING... 6 FIGURE

SPEAKING ENGAGEMENTS-- 6 FIGURE

15 min of Fame or Flame... must keep it going!




Palin resigns as Alaska governor, leaves future presidential run shrouded in mystery


"Palin has the potential to make far MORE money in the PRIVATE SECTOR than the $125,000 or so she has been making as governor.

Palin already had a deal with publisher HarperCollins to produce her memoirs, with publication planned for next spring. Terms of the deal have not been disclosed. Six-figure book deals are common for high-profile political figures."





http://blog.taragana.com/n/palin-resigns-a...-mystery-99059/
doghead
7/4/09
11:37 AM
Then again, maybe she really is nuts.
Chance
7/4/09
11:39 AM
Palin can't run her own life let alone be governer or vice president of the US. As a women I'm embarrased that this is the example we have running for government office. Too many intelligent women in office for the right reasons to have them focus on Palin.
Bustina di tè
7/4/09
11:49 AM
QUOTE (Chance @ Jul 4 2009, 11:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Palin can't run her own life let alone be governer or vice president of the US. As a women I'm embarrased that this is the example we have running for government office. Too many intelligent women in office for the right reasons to have them focus on Palin.


... and just where did Palin fail so badly in her personal life?
But then you are parroting another political figure:


What upsets the female O-bots so much about Sarah Palin?
Is it because she is living the feminists dream?
She has a family, a supportive husband and a career.
Isn't that what "Progressive" women celebrate?
Or is it that the Cult of Obunko trumps gender loyalty of the Obunko Girls.
Oh and BTW, Chance, you had an opportunity to support a Democrat woman of intelligence but supported the empty suit of a man instead.
doghead
7/4/09
11:50 AM
QUOTE (Bustina di tè @ Jul 4 2009, 10:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ya gotta luv it.
The "progressives" on Talkback speculating on the vilest of reasons for Sarah Palin's bombshell of an announcement Friday.
As to the economic woes (suffered by every state in the union) at least Alaska has a budget. laugh.gif
Where's ours?
Some have characterized her speech as incoherent and rambling, I guess her teleprompter was on the fritz. Just like Obunko's in his finest moments.
Remember she doesn't have a cardboard cut out groping speech writer to put hope and change in her mouth. laugh.gif
This is, or was, a governor that wants to end same sex benefits for the employees of her state but when she had the chance vetoed legislation because her Attorney General said it was unconstitutional. How many other governors would have the courage to pizz off a large part of their constituency to do what is right?
Think back to Obunko's stint in the Illinois legislature and all his "Present" votes on controversial issues.
Is there a sacandal brewing?
I don't know, I'm not a mind reader like some of you O-bots posting here.
Is she stepping away from an upcoming fiscal train wreck in Alaska?
I'm not a finance or budget expert so I don't know the answer to that either.
What I do know is that you O-bots are having a field day. Just remember what goes around comes around. As been pointed out republican hypocrisy has bit them in the men's room stall and karma can be nasty. Pat Fitzgerald's investigation into the sewer of Chicago Machine politics has snagged two of Obunko's associates, Tony Rezko and Rod Blagojevich and he isn't finished.



So can Obunko, run a state that is. Into the ground. laugh.gif


Oh please. Sara Palin thinks only of Sara Palin and her personal ambition.
Read what the McCain people thought of her before you start calling everyone who disagrees with you an "O-bot".

http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/feature...rah-palin200908

"The pattern is inescapable: she takes disagreements personally, and swiftly deals vengeance on enemies, real or perceived."

"By the time Election Day rolled around, the staff had been serially pummeled by unflattering press reports about the gaps in Palin’s knowledge, her stubborn resistance to direction, and the post-selection spending spree in which she ran up bills of $150,000 on clothes for herself and her family at high-end stores. The top McCain aides who had tried hard to work with Palin—Steve Schmidt, the chief strategist; Nicolle Wallace, the communications ace; and Tucker Eskew, her traveling counselor—were barely on speaking terms with her, and news organizations were reporting that anonymous McCain aides saw Palin as a “diva” and a “whack job.” Many of the details that led to such assessments have remained obscure. But in a recent series of conversations, a range of people from the McCain-Palin campaign, including members of the high command, agreed to elaborate on how a match they thought so right ended up going so wrong."

"“She started to hedge her bets,” the same McCain friend says. “Frequently, she would be concerned about how something would play in Alaska. What? You’re worried about your backside in Alaska when there are hundreds of millions of dollars being spent?” One longtime McCain friend and frequent companion on the trail was heard to refer to Palin as “Little Shop of Horrors.”
Fizz
7/4/09
11:55 AM
QUOTE (Bustina di tè @ Jul 4 2009, 12:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
... and just where did Palin fail so badly in her personal life?
But then you are parroting another political figure:


What upsets the female O-bots so much about Sarah Palin?
Is it because she is living the feminists dream?
She has a family, a supportive husband and a career.
Isn't that what "Progressive" women celebrate?
Or is it that the Cult of Obunko trumps gender loyalty of the Obunko Girls.
Oh and BTW, Chance, you had an opportunity to support a Democrat woman of intelligence but supported the empty suit of a man instead.


So, Hillary made the better choice because she's a woman? How is that any less "robotic" than those O-Bot sobriquets you love to toss out so much.

You're a broken record. It's a shame you're letting personal bias get in the way of your ideals.
Bustina di tè
7/4/09
12:05 PM
QUOTE
Palin already had a deal with publisher HarperCollins to produce her memoirs, with publication planned for next spring. Terms of the deal have not been disclosed. Six-figure book deals are common for high-profile political figures."

Palin book deal about her political life .... baaaad!
Obama multiple book deals about his life goooood.
Gee, ya think Sarah will get help from Bill Ayers? laugh.gif

QUOTE
Oh please. Sara Palin thinks only of Sara Palin and her personal ambition.
Read what the McCain people thought of her before you start calling everyone who disagrees with you an "O-bot".

http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/feature...rah-palin200908

A few disgruntled McCain staffers looking to excuse their failures with a hit piece on Palin.

The Vanity Fairy Tale:
QUOTE
By the time Election Day rolled around, the staff had been serially pummeled by unflattering press reports about the gaps in Palin's knowledge, her stubborn resistance to direction, and the post-selection spending spree in which she ran up bills of $150,000 on clothes for herself and her family at high-end stores

The Reality:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27320899/
QUOTE
WASHINGTON - When the Republican Party decided to coordinate expenses with John McCain's presidential campaign, who knew it would be color coordinated. The Republican National Committee spent about $150,000 on clothing, hair styling, makeup and other "campaign accessories" in September for the McCain campaign after Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin joined the ticket as his running mate.

The McCain campaign now says the clothing will go to a "charitable purpose" after the campaign.




QUOTE
The top McCain aides who had tried hard to work with Palin—Steve Schmidt, the chief strategist; Nicolle Wallace, the communications ace; and Tucker Eskew, her traveling counselor—were barely on speaking terms with her, and news organizations were reporting that anonymous McCain aides saw Palin as a "diva" and a "whack job."

Those are direct quote from the from the aids or speculation of someone fail-bot with an axe to grind?
Anonymous aids is news speak for "We want to write a hit piece on Sarah Palin to please our master, Axlerove, but we have nothing of substance so we will make it up on the fly."

QUOTE
Read what the McCain people thought of her before you start calling everyone who disagrees with you an "O-bot".
laugh.gif biggrin.gif tongue.gif
harv1
7/4/09
12:06 PM
"The "progressives" on Talkback speculating on the vilest of reasons for Sarah Palin's bombshell of an announcement Friday."

Flaming liberal here, Bustina. Go back and read my speculations on why she quit.
Daisy Lee Myers
7/4/09
12:07 PM
why did she quit?

i'm waiting for Palin to say...

"LETTERMAN made me do it!"
doghead
7/4/09
12:10 PM
QUOTE (Bustina di tè @ Jul 4 2009, 12:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Palin book deal about her political life .... baaaad!
Obama multiple book deals about his life goooood.
Gee, ya think Sarah will get help from Bill Ayers? laugh.gif


A few disgruntled McCain staffers looking to excuse their failures with a hit piece on Palin.

The Vanity Fairy Tale:

The Reality:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27320899/





Those are direct quote from the from the aids or speculation of someone fail-bot with an axe to grind?
Anonymous aids is news speak for "We want to write a hit piece on Sarah Palin to please our master, Axlerove, but we have nothing of substance so we will make it up on the fly.


Speaking of speculation, you have been engaged in a never ending broken record of speculating about Obama.

What a sour grapes person you are. Bummer
RedRosie
7/4/09
12:12 PM
QUOTE (Bustina di tè @ Jul 4 2009, 12:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Barack Obunko ... O-bots ...

Do you get your opinions from Limbaugh or is it O'Reily?
Bustina di tè
7/4/09
12:14 PM
QUOTE (Fizz @ Jul 4 2009, 11:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So, Hillary made the better choice because she's a woman? How is that any less "robotic" than those O-Bot sobriquets you love to toss out so much.

You're a broken record. It's a shame you're letting personal bias get in the way of your ideals.


... and obunko is doing so well what with keeping all those campaign promises and siding with Joe Sixpack against corporate America and the Wall Street Banksters. laugh.gif
Bustina di tè
7/4/09
12:21 PM
QUOTE (RedRosie @ Jul 4 2009, 12:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Do you get your opinions from Limbaugh or is it O'Reily?


Well I don't pull them out of my butt like some of you here. laugh.gif
But since you asked here are a few in no particular order:

http://cannonfire.blogspot.com/2009/06/mor...ico-pitney.html

http://cannonfire.blogspot.com/2009/06/new...tweety-pie.html

http://cannonfire.blogspot.com/2009/06/d.html

http://cannonfire.blogspot.com/2009/06/gle...d-tells-it.html

http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2009/07...hite-and-sarah/

http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2009/07...get-really-bad/

http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2009/07...still-my-heart/
Fizz
7/4/09
12:30 PM
QUOTE (Bustina di tè @ Jul 4 2009, 01:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
... and obunko is doing so well what with keeping all those campaign promises and siding with Joe Sixpack against corporate America and the Wall Street Banksters. laugh.gif


I want you to go through all of my posts and point out where I said that I was happy with Obama's performance. Do it. I dare you.

You won't find it because it doesn't exist. I am, and always have been, against the bailouts. And I'm disappointed that Obama went through with them. However, I still think he was the best person for the job with the options we had.

But to sit there and suggest that things would be different under Hillary is ridiculous. You forget, the two men that she decided to "pal around with" when she campaigned through Pennsylvania were Rendell and Murtha. Are you telling me that Rendell and Murtha are anti-establishment Democrats? She is about as entrenched in party politics as you can get. She owes the same people Obama does...and every politician.

Personally, I think "third party" is the only way to go. We must break the two-party monopoly in Washington. Our "choice" is an illusion.

You claim that Hillary lost the election because of "misogyny" in the MSM. No, Hillary lost because she ran a bad campaign. For years, she was the person to beat. You claim Obama anointed himself as "The Messiah"; this isn't true. But it's clear that Hillary was running on the assumption that 2008 was hers to lose. And she lost.

For four years, I had assumed that I would be voting for Hillary Clinton in 2008. And then she campaigned. The more she talked, the more she lost me. And most of my left-leaning friends (men and women alike) felt the same way.

And, for the record, had McCain won the nomination in 2000, he would have gotten my vote.

What's disheartening about your posts is the fact that you claim that everyone who voted for Obama is unable to be critical in thought. To do that is to diminish an entire swath of the American populous. You're suggesting that YOU see what is right, and the millions of people who voted for Obama are too stupid to realize it. Do you realize how arrogant that is?

Did you want Hillary to win because she was the best candidate on the field? Or because the was the closest to being the first female President? Your frequent postings suggest that you're every bit as robotic as the "O-bots" you so roundly criticize.
Bustina di tè
7/4/09
12:32 PM
QUOTE (doghead @ Jul 4 2009, 12:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Speaking of speculation, you have been engaged in a never ending broken record of speculating about Obama.

What a sour grapes person you are. Bummer


And you, sir or madam, are a never ending record of beeps and moans in defense of the empty suit.

The only speculation directly about Obunko is when Pat Fitzgerald names him as a "person of interest" in his investigation into Chicago Machine politics and just what was he prepared to do for Tony Rezko in return for the Hyde Park mansion deal.

The indirect speculation was what did Axlerove promise the print and broadcast media to lay off his candidate.

Sour grapes would indicate Obunko is keeping his promises and I have no real reason to oppose him.

My attitude is more "I told you so" and it galls the O-bats. laugh.gif

QUOTE
Did you want Hillary to win because she was the best candidate on the field? Or because the was the closest to being the first female President? Your frequent postings suggest that you're every bit as robotic as the "O-bots" you so roundly criticize.

Given what has transpired under Obunko ?
Beth
7/4/09
12:38 PM
QUOTE (Daisy Lee Myers @ Jul 4 2009, 12:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
why did she quit?

i'm waiting for Palin to say...

"LETTERMAN made me do it!"

Letterman doesn't deserve that much credit!

The best thing I got out of this whole thing is a quote attributed to Ms. Palin.

"No need to explain, my friends already know why, and my enemies won't believe me."

-might not originate with her, but I liked it. Might come in handy....
Fizz
7/4/09
12:40 PM
QUOTE (Bustina di tè @ Jul 4 2009, 01:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And you, sir or madam, are a never ending record of beeps and moans in defense of the empty suit.

The only speculation directly about Obunko is when Pat Fitzgerald names him as a "person of interest" in his investigation into Chicago Machine politics and just what was he prepared to do for Tony Rezko in return for the Hyde Park mansion deal.

The indirect speculation was what did Axlerove promise the print and broadcast media to lay off his candidate.

Sour grapes would indicate Obunko is keeping his promises and I have no real reason to oppose him.

My attitude is more "I told you so" and it galls the O-bats. laugh.gif


Given what has transpired under Obunko ?


Do you not realize that name-calling is juvenile and just diminishes whatever argument you may wish to win? You're never going to convince your audience to see your point of view.

I'm not a big fan of name-calling, so don't take this the wrong way. Your tactics are incredibly puerile. You're like a child. Hillary lost, so I'm going to take my ball and go home. And call lots of people lots of names.

Presenting an argument is more than just posting links, coming up with cute nicknames, and an endless line of emoticons.

I get the feeling we agree more than we disagree, but your presentation is just so grating.
Daisy Lee Myers
7/4/09
12:46 PM
hot tea:

QUOTE (Bustina di tè @ Jul 4 2009, 12:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
A few disgruntled McCain staffers looking to excuse their failures with a hit piece on Palin.

The Vanity Fairy Tale:







Those are direct quote from the from the aids or speculation of someone fail-bot with an axe to grind?
Anonymous aids is news speak for "We want to write a hit piece on Sarah Palin to please our master, Axlerove, but we have nothing of substance so we will make it up on the fly."









THANKS for the heads up:

OK-- it is the AUGUST issue of VANITY FAIR about Palin. I didn't get that issue yet!

Todd S. Purdum on Sarah Palin | vanityfair.com









http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/feature...rah-palin200908

Politics

It Came from Wasilla

Despite her disastrous performance in the 2008 election, Sarah Palin is still the sexiest brand in Republican politics, with a lucrative book contract for her story. But what Alaska's charismatic governor wants the public to know about herself doesn't always jibe with reality. As John McCain's top campaign officials talk more candidly than ever before about the meltdown of his vice-presidential pick, the author tracks the signs—political and personal—that Palin was big trouble, and checks the forecast for her future.
By Todd S. Purdum August 2009

Bustina di tè
7/4/09
12:46 PM
QUOTE (Fizz @ Jul 4 2009, 12:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Do you not realize that name-calling is juvenile and just diminishes whatever argument you may wish to win? You're never going to convince your audience to see your point of view.

I'm not a big fan of name-calling, so don't take this the wrong way. Your tactics are incredibly puerile. You're like a child. Hillary lost, so I'm going to take my ball and go home. And call lots of people lots of names.

Presenting an argument is more than just posting links, coming up with cute nicknames, and an endless line of emoticons.

I get the feeling we agree more than we disagree, but your presentation is just so grating.

If I had any respect for my critics I'd be concerned about what they think of me. laugh.gif biggrin.gif smile.gif tongue.gif cool.gif rolleyes.gif
Fizz
7/4/09
1:03 PM
QUOTE (Bustina di tè @ Jul 4 2009, 01:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If I had any respect for my critics I'd be concerned about what they think of me. laugh.gif biggrin.gif smile.gif tongue.gif cool.gif rolleyes.gif


...and that's why your team lost.
Bustina di tè
7/4/09
1:15 PM
QUOTE (Daisy Lee Myers @ Jul 4 2009, 12:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
hot tea:

THANKS for the heads up:

OK-- it is the AUGUST issue of VANITY FAIR about Palin. I didn't get that issue yet!

Todd S. Purdum on Sarah Palin | vanityfair.com

http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/feature...rah-palin200908

Politics

It Came from Wasilla

Despite her disastrous performance in the 2008 election, Sarah Palin is still the sexiest brand in Republican politics, with a lucrative book contract for her story. But what Alaska's charismatic governor wants the public to know about herself doesn't always jibe with reality. As John McCain's top campaign officials talk more candidly than ever before about the meltdown of his vice-presidential pick, the author tracks the signs—political and personal—that Palin was big trouble, and checks the forecast for her future.
By Todd S. Purdum August 2009


Do yourself a favor before you go any further and read my post in answer to dogbutt in post #78.
If Puredum can lie about who bought the wardrobe he can lie about other things as well.
You know,"Lie to me once ..."
The thing is Doghead, like so many others, wants to believe Purdum's hit because it jives with his Obama kool-ade influenced view of her.
Fizz
7/4/09
1:26 PM
QUOTE (Bustina di tè @ Jul 4 2009, 02:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Do yourself a favor before you go any further and read my post in answer to dogbutt in post #78.
If Puredum can lie about who bought the wardrobe he can lie about other things as well.
You know,"Lie to me once ..."
The thing is Doghead, like so many others, wants to believe Purdum's hit because it jives with his Obama kool-ade influenced view of her.


It's not "jive," it's "jibe."

jibe:
verb: be compatible, similar or consistent; coincide in their characteristics.

Don't worry; it's an easy mistake to make. Lots of people do it.

And it's Kool-Aid. Proper noun, capitalized.
Daisy Lee Myers
7/4/09
1:30 PM
hot tea:

i get VF so i will read the article soon.

psssst..

I do like the caricature of Palin in the article.

can you download it for the chatters?

thanks

****************

Don't Blame V.F. for Sarah Palin's Resignation : Vanity Fair | Vanity Fair

http://www.vanityfair.com/online/politics/...esignation.html
Bustina di tè
7/4/09
1:36 PM
QUOTE (Daisy Lee Myers @ Jul 4 2009, 01:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
hot tea:

i get VF so i will read the article soon.

psssst..

I do like the caricature of Palin in the article.

can you download it for the chatters?

thanks

****************

Don't Blame V.F. for Sarah Palin's Resignation : Vanity Fair | Vanity Fair

http://www.vanityfair.com/online/politics/...esignation.html


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My daughter hunts too, so did one of my aunts so I have no problem with this even though it was meant to be derogatory.
It says more about the artist than the subject.

edited to add:

She isn't the type to shoot someone in the face either, literally or otherwise. (Bill)
skeptic2
7/4/09
2:14 PM
QUOTE (Kate @ Jul 4 2009, 11:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
More from Palin's speech. A personally admire what she is saying in her decision to step down. Say what you will, she has a conscience that very few legislators have.

I don't see how resigning will help politically in the long run, and it is reasonable to be suspicious that another shoe will drop.

She also probably exaggerates to what extent her problems in Alaska stem from the operatives who descended on the state last year. Some of this is blowback from taking on entrenched interests and jealousy from other Alaskan politicians. Some of this has to do with the "attack dog" role from the campaign. She had worked well in the past with some Democrats in Alaska before running with McCain and this isn't true now.
doghead
7/4/09
2:41 PM
QUOTE (Bustina di tè @ Jul 4 2009, 12:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And you, sir or madam, are a never ending record of beeps and moans in defense of the empty suit.



What are you talking about. I am notan "O-bot" as you call them. I support him and hope he succeeds but that is a far cry from moaning and defending him.

laugh.gif
QUOTE (Daisy Lee Myers @ Jul 4 2009, 12:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
hot tea:










THANKS for the heads up:

OK-- it is the AUGUST issue of VANITY FAIR about Palin. I didn't get that issue yet!

Todd S. Purdum on Sarah Palin | vanityfair.com


Bustina didn't read the article. It was not a few disgruntled staffers, it was McCains top people.
Such speculation......

QUOTE (Bustina di tè @ Jul 4 2009, 01:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Do yourself a favor before you go any further and read my post in answer to dogbutt in post #78.
If Puredum can lie about who bought the wardrobe he can lie about other things as well.
You know,"Lie to me once ..."
The thing is Doghead, like so many others, wants to believe Purdum's hit because it jives with his Obama kool-ade influenced view of her.



When she is indicted next week I will grant you an opportunity to apologize.
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/1...ent_feared.html

Oh but that 's the media to blame because she may have gotten a free house in exchange for graft.
That woman's resignation speech was rambling and erratic, she looked scared.
Don't forget to apologize teabag and I'll give you a bone. ARF laugh.gif
harv1
7/4/09
3:03 PM
She couldn't stand the heat so she got out of the kitchen. Where's the shame in that?

And when Alaska's economic woes are highlighted as much as California's (and California is in better economic shape than Alaska), people will tend not to link those woes to Palin. Short memories and instant gratification and "us against them" are what she is counting on in 2012. A lot of people prefer to align themselves in an "us against them" manner. That's fine. There's room for everyone....
Shirley U Geste
7/4/09
3:43 PM
Difference is Alaska has a reserve fund of $6.8 billion to cover their budget deficit. They did this because they realize that 82% of their revenue comes from oil and gas and the prices fluctuate. Sounds like good fiscal planning to me.
Bustina di tè
7/4/09
9:10 PM
QUOTE (doghead @ Jul 4 2009, 02:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What are you talking about. I am notan "O-bot" as you call them. I support him and hope he succeeds but that is a far cry from moaning and defending him.

laugh.gif

Bustina didn't read the article. It was not a few disgruntled staffers, it was McCains top people.
Such speculation......


Where are the direct quotes from these "top people"?
QUOTE
When she is indicted next week I will grant you an opportunity to apologize.
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/1...ent_feared.html

Oh but that 's the media to blame because she may have gotten a free house in exchange for graft.
That woman's resignation speech was rambling and erratic, she looked scared.
Don't forget to apologize teabag and I'll give you a bone. ARF laugh.gif


The USA for the district of Alaska is Karen Loeffler. If there were a federal investigation of the Palins it would be in the news. Look how quickly we learned of Obunko's sweetheart house buying deal with Tony Rezko.
Daisy Lee Myers
7/5/09
8:15 AM
QUOTE (Bustina di tè @ Jul 4 2009, 01:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
[attachment=5049:sarah_pa..._0908_01.jpg]

My daughter hunts too, so did one of my aunts so I have no problem with this even though it was meant to be derogatory.
It says more about the artist than the subject.

edited to add:

She isn't the type to shoot someone in the face either, literally or otherwise. (Bill)



a friend printed the Vanity Fair article for me. it is 15 pages.. will read it today.

thanks for the download of Palin.
doghead
7/5/09
8:31 AM
http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/feature...8?currentPage=3

There is virtually nothing about Palin’s performance in the fall campaign that should have come as a surprise to John McCain. Had he really attempted to learn something about her before the fateful day of August 29, 2008, when he announced that she was his choice for running mate, he would easily have discerned all the traits that he belatedly came to know.

The narrative that the McCain campaign employed to explain Palin’s selection and to promote her qualifications—that she was a fresh-faced reformer who had taken on Alaska’s big oil companies and the corrupt Republican establishment, governing with bipartisan support—was never more than superficially true. In dozens of conversations during a recent visit to Alaska, it was easy to learn that there has always been a counter-narrative about Palin, and indeed it has become the dominant one. It is the story of a political novice with an intuitive feel for the temper of her times, a woman who saw her opportunities and coolly seized them. In every job, she surrounded herself with an insular coterie of trusted friends, took disagreements personally, discarded people who were no longer useful, and swiftly dealt vengeance on enemies, real or perceived. “Remember,” says Lyda Green, a former Republican state senator who once represented Palin’s home district, and who over the years went from being a supporter of Palin’s to a bitter foe, “her nickname in high school was ‘Barracuda.’ I was never called Barracuda. Were you? There’s a certain instinct there that you go for the jugular.”

doghead
7/5/09
8:37 AM
Sounds like Bustini's kind of man. laugh.gif

"Perhaps nothing has caused a bigger stir than Palin’s nomination of Wayne Anthony Ross to be Alaska’s attorney general. Ross is a two-time gubernatorial candidate and a board member of the National Rifle Association. He had sown controversy over the years by referring to gays and lesbians as “degenerates” (he later sought to downplay the remark, saying his aversion to homosexuals was no different from his aversion to lima beans) and for staunchly opposing subsistence-hunting preferences for native Alaskans. A flamboyant divorce lawyer who drives a big red Hummer with the vanity license plate WAR, Ross is a good old boy of pithy expression and considerable charm. (“In Alaska,” Ross told me, “a liberal is someone who carries a .357 or smaller.”) The final vote against Ross—with the Republican leaders of both chambers joining to defeat him—came just as Palin was speaking in Evansville. It was the first time in Alaska history that a cabinet nominee was rejected. “If I wince a little, it’s from the arrows in my back,” Ross told me a few weeks later. “I think there were a number of people who were trying to show her who the boss was.”
BigBaron55
7/5/09
8:42 AM
Please go back to Alaska and maybe just maybe we can all forget you.
Bustina di tè
7/5/09
11:18 AM
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/na...0,7018263.story
QUOTE
Reporting from Washington -- A day after Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin resigned, a federal official in her home state dismissed one potential explanation for her sudden and unexpected resignation: a rumored FBI investigation into the former Wasilla mayor on public corruption charges.

Despite rumors of a looming controversy after the Republican governor's surprise announcement Friday that she would leave office this month, some of them published in the blogosphere, the FBI's Alaska spokesman said the bureau had no investigation into Palin for her activities as governor, as mayor or in any other capacity.

http://www.conservatives4palin.com/2009/07...al-counsel.html
QUOTE
Almost immediately afterwards, several unscrupulous people have asserted false and defamatory allegations that the "real" reasons for Governor Palin's resignation stem from an alleged criminal investigation pertaining to the construction of the Wasilla Sports Complex. This canard was first floated by Democrat operatives in September 2008 during the national campaign and followed up by sympathetic Democratic writers.1. It was easily rebutted then as one of many fabrications about Sarah Palin. Just as power abhors a vacuum, modern journalism apparently abhors any type of due diligence and fact checking before scurrilous allegations are repeated as fact.

The history of the Wasilla Sports Complex is publicly known. Contrary to the insinuation that as Mayor of Wasilla, Sarah Palin "personally" oversaw bidding, construction, funding and accounting for the project (and thus, the allegation goes, "embezzled" from the project), the truth is far more mundane, and publicly available:


QUOTE
To the extent several websites, most notably liberal Alaska blogger Shannyn Moore, are now claiming as "fact" that Governor Palin resigned because she is "under federal investigation" for embezzlement or other criminal wrongdoing, we will be exploring legal options this week to address such defamation. This is to provide notice to Ms. Moore, and those who re-publish the defamation, such as Huffington Post, MSNBC, the New York Times and The Washington Post, that the Palins will not allow them to propagate defamatory material without answering to this in a court of law. The Alaska Constitution protects the right of free speech, while simultaneously holding those "responsible for the abuse of that right."


Gee, I hope some of you have deep piggy banks. laugh.gif
doghead
7/5/09
11:30 AM
QUOTE (Bustina di tè @ Jul 5 2009, 11:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>



Wow conservatives for Palin, that is quite the objective group.
Always the victim, Sarah Palin whines .Perpetual victinhood only gets you so far, and you end up with a base of people like Bustini with a mouthfull of sour grapes and a bellyfull of gall, and the Far Right lunatic fringe.
Her rambling press conference nails shut any chance of "leading America" into moral certitude.
Thank you Jesus.
By the way, hon,you cannot sue someone for voicing their opinions or speculating about a public official.
Bustina di tè
7/5/09
11:43 AM
Hey, doggy, you're the one willing to put money on the indictment.
Now that the FBI says no deal you skip on to accusing her of whining without skipping a beat.
Why the obsessive hatred of women?
avgwhiteguy
7/5/09
11:53 AM
QUOTE (Bustina di tè @ Jul 5 2009, 11:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hey, doggy, you're the one willing to put money on the indictment.
Now that the FBI says no deal you skip on to accusing her of whining without skipping a beat.
Why the obsessive hatred of women?


I see no obsessive hatred of women. I do see a personal distaste for an obviously under-qualified, less-than-capable politician who foundered more and more with each passing day in the national spotlight.

The Republican party in 2008 tried to recreate its image by foisting Palin on the base, and like loyal lemmings, the Republican base ate it up. You call Obama an "empty suit." How can you categorize Palin as anything different? She failed miserably in every capacity - aside from looking good - during the 2008 election. Yet she somehow feels entitled to be free from criticism. You don't hear Obama saying "just leave me alone" to all of his critics.

And now she is threatening to sue journalists? Didn't she say in her rambling, incoherent speech that she was leaving office to "support freedom"?

So much for the first amendment.

Sarah Palin is the reason I didn't vote for McCain, and if the Republican party doesn't pack her away for good, they will likely lose my vote permanently.

Fizz
7/5/09
11:54 AM
QUOTE (Bustina di tè @ Jul 5 2009, 12:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hey, doggy, you're the one willing to put money on the indictment.
Now that the FBI says no deal you skip on to accusing her of whining without skipping a beat.
Why the obsessive hatred of women?


Obsessive? There's this little story about the pot and the kettle; maybe you've heard it?
doghead
7/5/09
12:05 PM
QUOTE (Bustina di tè @ Jul 5 2009, 11:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hey, doggy, you're the one willing to put money on the indictment.
Now that the FBI says no deal you skip on to accusing her of whining without skipping a beat.
Why the obsessive hatred of women?


Now I hate women because I criticized Sarah Palin? You are Sean Hannity aren't you?
You have sunk to a new low in your obsessive neurosis.
Goldilocks
7/5/09
12:46 PM
QUOTE (avgwhiteguy @ Jul 5 2009, 10:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And now she is threatening to sue journalists? Didn't she say in her rambling, incoherent speech that she was leaving office to "support freedom"?

So much for the first amendment.



Where in the First Ammendment does it say that Journalists (sic, if you want to call them that) are free to state lies and slander, as fact?

Daisy Lee Myers
7/5/09
12:58 PM
hot tea:

what i got from the VF article and her recent resignation..

sarah "barracuda" has been thrown back into the sea by "sarah palin" and nobody else!




Todd S. Purdum on Sarah Palin | vanityfair.com

http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/feature...rah-palin200908
Bustina di tè
7/5/09
1:50 PM
Postpartum sets the tone early on.
http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/feature...rah-palin200908

QUOTE
As Palin makes her way slowly across the crowded ballroom—dressed all in black; no red Naughty Monkey Double Dare pumps tonight—


QUOTE
Palin is at once the sexiest and the riskiest brand in the Republican Party.

Well the media did have DNA squirting down their collective leg for Obama and Flight Suit Bush's codpiece. laugh.gif

QUOTE
What does her prominence say about the importance of having (or lacking) a record of achievement in public life?

The Clinton rules come into play, what exactly did Obunko achieve?

QUOTE
Her first trip to Washington since the election was to attend the dinner of the Alfalfa Club, an elite group of politicians and businesspeople whose sole function is an annual evening in honor of a plant that would "do anything for a drink.


Can't really tell if it's the politicians or the plant that would do anything for a drink. Ted Kennedy must have been in attendance.

QUOTE
McCain had spent only a couple of hours in Palin's presence before choosing her,... The difficulties began immediately, with the McCain team's delivery of the bad news that the pregnancy of Palin's daughter Bristol, which was already common knowledge in Alaska and had been revealed to the McCain team at the last minute


So the incompetent McCain aids that did such a lousy job of vetting Palin are dishing up dirt in order to save their own hides.

But then chapter titles like It came from Wasilla and Little Shop of Horrors should tell you it's going to be a hit piece.
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