Blood and soil and bull

May 29th, 2009 9:41 am · 15 comments

Quick check in our archives this morning to find that that “Latino KKK” organization, the National Council of La Raza, has done a lot for Lancaster County. Though maybe local organizations should have rejected the funding becuase the group is so “radical” and “racist.”

La Raza, for example, helped fund La Academia, the charter school for (mostly) Latino kids over on North Ann Street. You know, I’ve been to La Academia, written about it, and I can say I didn’t see any “Kill Whitey” posters. But maybe I just wasn’t looking hard enough.

La Raza also donated money so that 100 free car seats could be given out here back in 2001. I suppose that should have been rejected as well.

Point is, the wingers who attack La Raza as racist have absolutely no idea what the organization does beyond what they’ve heard on Fox News or read on World Nut Daily, and have no idea what it has done in this community, for this community. And to the extent that these bull**** attacks continue, this perhaps needs to make it into our local papers as soon as possible, so that the local Latino community knows exactly what local wingers are saying about this group - and ultimately, about them.

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  15 comments  Tags: Racism · Wingers

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funkman
5/29/09
9:58 AM
Point to ponder. A person (or organization) can be humanitarian as well as do "bad things". For example: look at Palestine. IIRC, Hamas is a performs a lot charity work and provides humanitarian aid to the poor in that area.
justplainjoe
5/29/09
10:16 AM
la raza endorsed alberto gonzalez as attorny general and i didn't hear anyhting coming from the wingers at the time. of course that was a few years before their collective nervous breakdonw and subsequent spiral into koo-koo land.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/5/2...rsed-By-La-Raza

The National Council of La Raza, which bills itself as the largest national Hispanic civil rights and advocacy organization in the U.S., welcomed the nomination of Gonzales to succeed John Ashcroft.

"We are very encouraged by the Gonzales nomination," said the glowing endorsement by La Raza. "We previously criticized the Bush administration for not having an Hispanic in the cabinet since the departure of former HUD Secretary, now Senator-elect, Mel Martinez. We are pleased that one of the first acts since the president’s re-election both rectifies that situation and marks an historic milestone for the Latino community. Never before has a Hispanic served as head of one of the four major Cabinet posts – secretary of State, Treasury, Defense and attorney general," said Janet Murguia, NCLR executive director and chief operating officer.

But it wasn't just the historical breakthrough that thrilled La Raza. It was also the fact that he is one of their own. [Emphasis mine].

"Alberto Gonzales served with distinction on the board of directors of one of NCLR’s oldest and most respected affiliates, the Association for the Advancement of Mexican Americans in Houston, Texas," she said. "Moreover, during his tenure as White House counsel, he has been one of the most accessible members of the White House staff to NCLR and other Hispanic organizations."

StrobeSML
5/29/09
10:29 AM
I wrote this for the news section but I'll add it here since similar points are being made.

Frankly, at her level, it would be surprising if she were not part of many advocacy groups. That is what La Raza is, despite all attempts to make it seem like the "Hispanic KKK" (without the lynching, white sheets, night rides, Jim Crow laws, etc.). I doubt anyone would be upset if Clarence Thomas was a member of the NAACP (except perhaps the NAACP who opposed his nomination). Why should Sotomayor have a problem with La Raza?

I also didn't hear complaints about La Raza when Alberto Gonzales, also a member, was confirmed as attorney general.

As for her statement: "And that's why I went into that in my opening statement. Because when a case comes before me involving, let's say, someone who is an immigrant -- and we get an awful lot of immigration cases and naturalization cases -- I can't help but think of my own ancestors, because it wasn't that long ago when they were in that position." I can't see the real problem here.

Saying that your decisions have some basis from your heritage is not necessarily bad. It is saying that we are all shaped by our experiences and that this background gives us a certain perspective in what we do. Is that a bad statement?

If you think so, you might want to consider that I misattributed that quote. It was actually from Justice Samuel Alito at his confirmation hearings.

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O311mc
5/29/09
10:31 AM
QUOTE (justplainjoe @ May 29 2009, 10:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>



more extreme left wing BS
StrobeSML
5/29/09
12:01 PM
QUOTE (O311mc @ May 29 2009, 10:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
more extreme left wing BS


It is certainly extremely left-wing. However, to call BS on it you should have some facts to counter it. Gonzales was endorsed by La Raza as is Sotomayor. If it wasn't a problem for Gonzales then why is it a problem for Sotomayor?

The issue, though, is not race or empathy or anything else but party politics. The attack is on Obama's candidate not because she is hispanic or even too liberal (as her record is more centrist than heavily leftist). The attack is because she's Obama's candidate. This connection to the "racist" hispanic advocacy group is nothing more than a smokescreen.

O311mc
5/29/09
1:00 PM
QUOTE (StrobeSML @ May 29 2009, 01:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It is certainly extremely left-wing. However, to call BS on it you should have some facts to counter it. Gonzales was endorsed by La Raza as is Sotomayor. If it wasn't a problem for Gonzales then why is it a problem for Sotomayor?

The issue, though, is not race or empathy or anything else but party politics. The attack is on Obama's candidate not because she is hispanic or even too liberal (as her record is more centrist than heavily leftist). The attack is because she's Obama's candidate. This connection to the "racist" hispanic advocacy group is nothing more than a smokescreen.


My BS call speaks to the one sidedness of the website, I would give the same BS call to any one sided far right website.
StrobeSML
5/29/09
1:14 PM
QUOTE (O311mc @ May 29 2009, 01:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
My BS call speaks to the one sidedness of the website, I would give the same BS call to any one sided far right website.

Agreed. The site is one-sided. My point is that the one-sidedness doesn't mean that it is wrong in this instance.
O311mc
5/29/09
3:05 PM
QUOTE (StrobeSML @ May 29 2009, 01:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Agreed. The site is one-sided. My point is that the one-sidedness doesn't mean that it is wrong in this instance.



point taken.........Ok. it's one sided possibly factual information offered in a BS formatt, hows that? laugh.gif
StrobeSML
5/29/09
4:24 PM
QUOTE (O311mc @ May 29 2009, 03:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
point taken.........Ok. it's one sided possibly factual information offered in a BS formatt, hows that? laugh.gif

No objections whatsoever.
salty
5/30/09
2:32 PM
QUOTE (StrobeSML @ May 29 2009, 11:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I also didn't hear complaints about La Raza when Alberto Gonzales, also a member, was confirmed as attorney general.

You can blame mainstream media for your not hearing them, there certainly were such complaints aired on the web. MSM is letting the public be exposed to them now, to show them in a bad light (rush etc.).

Gates of Eden called it right on one of the other Sotomajor threads: her comments would make her unsuitable for seating on a jury, but she is being considered for SC? Who is in charge of this circus?
lanzate
5/30/09
3:19 PM
QUOTE (StrobeSML @ May 29 2009, 10:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I also didn't hear complaints about La Raza when Alberto Gonzales, also a member, was confirmed as attorney general.



BS

Alberto Gonzales was endorsed but la raza. He was never a member. Huge difference.


justplainjoe
5/30/09
4:25 PM
QUOTE (lanzate @ May 30 2009, 03:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
BS

Alberto Gonzales was endorsed but la raza. He was never a member. Huge difference.


eeeekkk a card carrying memeber of la raza.
you are making fun of wingers , right?
lanzate
5/31/09
6:35 AM
QUOTE (justplainjoe @ May 30 2009, 04:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
eeeekkk a card carrying memeber of la raza.
you are making fun of wingers , right?


Careful Joe, i'm open for you to prove me wrong on this but I have my doubts. Gonzales served as director of the Association for the Advancement of Mexican Americans which is an affiliate of la raza but again that simply means they are an organization that is endorsed by la raza and accepts support for la raza but they are still different organizations. La Raza has hundreds of affiliates, some of them are very racist some are very good at promoting positive Latino leadership in government and community organizations. The problem is with la raza and the fact that it does not vet out the openly racist groups.

StrobeSML
5/31/09
4:47 PM
QUOTE (salty @ May 30 2009, 02:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You can blame mainstream media for your not hearing them, there certainly were such complaints aired on the web. MSM is letting the public be exposed to them now, to show them in a bad light (rush etc.).

Let me see if I understand this: The mainstream media gave a pass to the Bush administration's selection for an attorney general but is giving the media darling Obama administration's choice for the Supreme Court announcements by the right about Sotomaryer's racial bias. Just another example of liberal bias in the media!

Errr... wait. I need a drink.

QUOTE (salty @ May 30 2009, 02:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Gates of Eden called it right on one of the other Sotomajor threads: her comments would make her unsuitable for seating on a jury, but she is being considered for SC? Who is in charge of this circus?

As I noted, her statement wasn't that different from the one given by Justice Alito during his confirmation hearing. She basically said that her life experience gives a different perspective when examining a case from the bench, which she thinks is a better perspective in issues of race and gender discrimination. However, her past history shows no real bias in cases regarding race or immigration so, while her view may be colored by her background and heritage, it certainly hasn't demonstrated itself as unusal bias or activism from the bench.
salty
6/1/09
6:07 AM
Why haven't we heard anything, from the horse's mouth? Who has the tongue of a Supreme nominee?

Edit to add:
Is her silence along the lines of "better to keep your mouth shut and be thought a fool, than to open it and remove all doubt"?
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