Personal irresponsibility

March 5th, 2009 10:40 am · 9 comments

Remember David Vitter?

Earlier this year, Sen. David Vitter (R-LA), who was named in the DC Madam prostitution scandal, co-sponsored the Marriage Protection Amendment, which would amend the Constitution to declare that marriage “shall consist only of the union of a man and a woman.” Now, “as he seeks to shore up his bona fides with conservative voters,” Vitter has introduced legislation slashing funding for family planning services:

The Louisiana senator has introduced an amendment to the omnibus spending bill before the Senate to drastically cut funding for family planning programs. Vitter’s amendment states that “none of the funds appropriated under this Act shall be made available to Planned Parenthood for any purpose under title X of the Public Health Service Act.”

ThinkProgress goes on to note that Vitter may be trying to outmaneuver pontential primary opponent Tony Perkins - he of the Family Research Council.

But this also strikes me as another manifestation of a dynamic we’ve been seeing with the Rush business. Certainly if I’m a conservative who doesn’t like abortion or family planning in general - sex should always result in babies! - then I like what Vitter’s doing here, regardless of his past dalliances. And indeed - if I’m on the lizard-brain tribalist conservative stripe, maybe this is even a way that Vitter once again becomes “one of us,” if in fact he was ever excommunicated in the first place.

We’ll get into this in the vid a bit later; but we’ve long talked about how the Limbaugh faction of the right is based upon tribalism: Us and them. “They,” of course, are complete moral degenerates, at once pathetically weak yet terrifyingly strong, all of which is even more reason for the tribe to band tightly together.

This type of conservatism is long on the “personal responsibility.”

But are they actually more personally responsible than the rest of society?

Take Rush himself, a thrice-married former drug addict. His fans forgive him all this, of course - but if in fact someone like Olbermann were a thrice-married former drug addict, wouldn’t Rush’s fans cite this as proof positive of his personal irresponsibility?

Becuase that’s what liberals do, in conservative world - make bad choices based on faulty ideology. It means, in fact, that they are bad people.

But when things like this happen to conservatives, they just sort of happen; it does not mean they are bad people, because they can’t be - in that they’re one of us.

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Artie See
3/5/09
10:35 AM
QUOTE (Lancaster Online @ Mar 5 2009, 09:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
...we’ve long talked about how the Limbaugh faction of the right is based upon tribalism: Us and them.

As the leadership of the Republican party continues to marginalize itself, it is alienating more and more mainstream Republican voters.

If the Republican leadership and Republican legislators continue to play the role of "naysayers", refusing to work together with everyone else to help heal this country, the Republican party could find itself isolated from the majority of Americans for many years.
hyleasfan
3/5/09
10:38 AM
Glen Beck is also divorced and a former alcoholic. Just sayin'.
MTWPDad
3/5/09
12:29 PM
Watch the stone casting, Gilby, and spend some time actually reading, would you please? Rush stated quite plainly that if Obama's policies were to move our country towards Socialism (which they clearly are), then he hopes those policies fail, because that is not what this country was founded upon.

Now, if you want to ask people who don't have nationally syndicated radio programs, then we'll answer. I hope Obama fails. Miserably. I hope he is kicked out of Washington in shame. I hope we never have to hear his teleprompted tripe again. I hope we never have to hear about his corrupt administration picks again (where are you comments about them, by the way? Odd that Geithner comes out screaming about tax cheats, when he himself owes quite a bit in back taxes - yet you say nothing? Boy, if they had 'R's next to their names, you'd be making hay a'plenty, wouldn't ya?).

How ironic that you and your kind on TB are all over forgiving Ayers - that was soooooo long ago! - that it is behind us, and we shouldn't be making an issue of his wanting to kill Americans and destroy the American government. But, in this blogspew, you throw up all over things that people did in the past, and want to refuse to allow them to do their job because of past indiscretions.

I hope your messiah is oborted. Period. And look forward to seeing the end of his abject failure of a presidency. And since I said this in the past, you or any of your peabrained followers can't say a thing about it.
Artie See
3/5/09
4:55 PM
QUOTE (MTWPDad @ Mar 5 2009, 12:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I hope your messiah is oborted. Period. And look forward to seeing the end of his abject failure of a presidency. And since I said this in the past, you or any of your peabrained followers can't say a thing about it.

Just purely out of curiosity:

Does that mean you believe George W. Bush was a great president?








P.S.: with all due respect, your hate is showing.
Nick Danger
3/5/09
7:56 PM
QUOTE (MTWPDad @ Mar 5 2009, 12:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Watch the stone casting, Gilby, and spend some time actually reading, would you please? Rush stated quite plainly that if Obama's policies were to move our country towards Socialism (which they clearly are), then he hopes those policies fail, because that is not what this country was founded upon.

Now, if you want to ask people who don't have nationally syndicated radio programs, then we'll answer. I hope Obama fails. Miserably. I hope he is kicked out of Washington in shame. I hope we never have to hear his teleprompted tripe again. I hope we never have to hear about his corrupt administration picks again (where are you comments about them, by the way? Odd that Geithner comes out screaming about tax cheats, when he himself owes quite a bit in back taxes - yet you say nothing? Boy, if they had 'R's next to their names, you'd be making hay a'plenty, wouldn't ya?).

How ironic that you and your kind on TB are all over forgiving Ayers - that was soooooo long ago! - that it is behind us, and we shouldn't be making an issue of his wanting to kill Americans and destroy the American government. But, in this blogspew, you throw up all over things that people did in the past, and want to refuse to allow them to do their job because of past indiscretions.

I hope your messiah is oborted. Period. And look forward to seeing the end of his abject failure of a presidency. And since I said this in the past, you or any of your peabrained followers can't say a thing about it.


If you really believe all the tripe you just posted, I feel sorry for you.

Carrying all that spitefulness and hate must be eating you alive.
wrsny337
3/5/09
8:56 PM
QUOTE (Artie See @ Mar 5 2009, 10:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
As the leadership of the Republican party continues to marginalize itself, it is alienating more and more mainstream Republican voters.

If the Republican leadership and Republican legislators continue to play the role of "naysayers", refusing to work together with everyone else to help heal this country, the Republican party could find itself isolated from the majority of Americans for many years.

Well-said, AS.

The GOP set the isolation wheels in motion with GWB and the Religious Right. The momentum continues via Rush Limbaugh and the Right-Wing obstructionists on Capital Hill. What a bunch of idiots: They just don't get it and that's sad for the country . . . well, maybe.
PedroHead
3/5/09
9:36 PM
QUOTE (Artie See @ Mar 5 2009, 10:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
As the leadership of the Republican party continues to marginalize itself, it is alienating more and more mainstream Republican voters.

If the Republican leadership and Republican legislators continue to play the role of "naysayers", refusing to work together with everyone else to help heal this country, the Republican party could find itself isolated from the majority of Americans for many years.


Earth to Artie? Have you lost it? Do you not notice that the stock market is down 20%+ since Captain Kangaroo took over? Do you not realize that this is not just Wall Street but also Main Street voting on his policies? And how are they voting? A resounding- beyond resounding(?)- no!

The market is s discounting mechanism- it looks forward by six months or more. Obviously the market does not like what it sees. You blame republicans for the mess. What would you do if we were up? Salute our moron Pres. If you want to give him credit where it is due, assign him the blame when it is due as well. The republicans are not to blame for the past 20+ fall of the market. Obama and his hideous proposals are to blame.

Who taxes the people who can get you out of this mess? Who takes away mortgage deductions when they can only help in a housing mess? Who is talking about creating jobs while destroying the entire travel industry? Who is quoted as saying "we are working round the clock on GM" when the rest of the world is melting down? Who is most worried right now about healthcare when the world is melting down? Can somebody wake up the idiot?

The absolute best thing that could happen to the market is for the idiot to somehow be impeached tomorrow. I assure you the market would rally 10% immediately. Stop blaming the republicans and look in the mirror. BTW, the republicans are naysaying for the simple reason that they cannot believe the crap that Pelosi, Frank, and Chief Moron want us to buy in to. And, yes, so far the republicans have been 100% correct.
Artie See
3/5/09
9:57 PM
QUOTE (PedroHead @ Mar 5 2009, 09:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Earth to Artie? Have you lost it?

Earth to Pedro? Have you lost it? Do you not notice that the stock market was down 30%+ during GW Bush's last years in office? Do you not notice that the damage had already been done a long time before President Obama was inaugurated?

Or don't those little facts mean anything to you?

Had John McCain been elected president, and the stock market had been down 20%+ since he would have taken office, would you be blaming him? Or is that somehow different to you?









P.S.: calling people names does not earn points in a discussion.
PedroHead
3/5/09
10:18 PM
QUOTE (Artie See @ Mar 5 2009, 09:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Earth to Pedro? Have you lost it? Do you not notice that the stock market was down 30%+ during GW Bush's last years in office? Do you not notice that the damage had already been done a long time before President Obama was inaugurated?

Or don't those little facts mean anything to you?

Had John McCain been elected president, and the stock market had been down 20%+ since he would have taken office, would you be blaming him? Or is that somehow different to you?

Who am I calling names? Does discounting mechanism mean anything to you? Simple explanation- the market is forward looking by 6-9 months. What it is telling us in no short order and rising immediacy is that things are going to get a lot worse.

Why? Gee, I do not know. Maybe it has to do with the obvious belief that the current idiots have no clue what they are doing. As I mentioned before, Captain Kangaroo and his cronies have thrown out solutions that do nothing but make people immediately balk at the likelyhood of success:

1. Raise taxes on the very people who can get us out of this. I know it is two years off, but what incentive do you have to start a small business in the environment proposed? None.

2. Focus on GM and healthcare. Hmm, is GM helping the economy? No. They lost $85mm a day last year. If we are all poor who buy their cars? Is giving healthcare to the poor going to help the economy? Hardly.

3. Remove mortgage/gifting deductions. Smart idea. Lets crater charitable giving and further surpress spending by taking even more out of the pockets of the people with more to spend. Brilliant idea.

4. Lets crow on to everyone about creating jobs while killing the travel industry by denouncing every single trip that you deem frivilous. Regardless, of course, of the significance of the trip. This nonsense hurts the following industries: all forms travel, hotel/resorts, dining, and all other consumer discretionary travails that go with travel. Another brilliant idea. Lets kill tens of thousands of jobs while talking of creating others.

I could go on and on. Please explain to me how this idiot's ideas are doing anything positive. Go for it. All you want to do is assign blame on Bush. Guess what, Artie? You can trace this back through Carter and Clinton too. Try looking forward rather than back.







P.S.: calling people names does not earn points in a discussion.





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