Via a billboard near - where else - Dover, York County. This’ll go over well.
Praising Darwin
February 12th, 2009 3:00 pm · 18 comments
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| Goldilocks 2/12/09 2:30 PM | Smart move, Mr. Smart. It is spelled, p-r-a-i-s-i-n-g !! |
| oh geez 2/12/09 2:35 PM | I'm tried of geting all my skooling. where can i get a job like yers? me nos how to cut an paste |
| A1 2/12/09 2:45 PM | Darwin gives some nice awards, but I'll have to think about this later. [attachment=3840:i_cant_brain_today.jpg] |
| grieker 2/12/09 2:57 PM | A man using a chain saw to trim a tree about 50 yards north of the sign declined to give his name, QUOTE but he said he was a member of the family that owns the ground on which the billboard stands. He said the family wants it removed. If yas own the land, cutz down de sign; stewpid. |
| newsjunkie 2/12/09 3:09 PM | QUOTE (grieker @ Feb 12 2009, 02:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> A man using a chain saw to trim a tree about 50 yards north of the sign declined to give his name, If yas own the land, cutz down de sign; stewpid. But See, they probably make money in RENT from the sign owner and didn't think to have a say over content of the billboard...so now they have to choose between money or ideals (their own censorship)? |
| Wonder 2/12/09 3:13 PM | QUOTE "Evolution is not a theory. It's a fact," said John H. Henson, a biology professor at Dickinson College in Carlisle. "Nothing in biology makes sense other than in the light of evolution." I am convinced that some fundamentalist Christians do not read their Bibles ! God created the Heavens and the Earth and gave man dominion over everything He created. God would have to be very narrow-minded to expect an ever-changing universe not to evolve over time. My God is so big that I, or any man [meaning man and woman - human being], will ever[edit:never] comprehend His limits. Darwin gave a clue to the greatness of God. It is just unfortunate that the first folks to latch onto Darwin's written word were evil-spirited. If you read Darwin and throw out politics and historical limitations, there is good stuff available to add to your pool of knowledge. Whatever you read, throw out the chaff and hold onto the grain of truth [advice I received from a wise person]. Do not limit your comprehension of the universe and the Greatness of God by allowing closed-minded "experts" to dictate your reading list. End of soap-box session. |
| A1 2/12/09 3:29 PM | QUOTE (newsjunkie @ Feb 12 2009, 05:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> But See, they probably make money in RENT from the sign owner and didn't think to have a say over content of the billboard...so now they have to choose between money or ideals (their own censorship)? That's probably true. It causes signs to be in places where they just don't belong. [attachment=3842:naughty_...rch_sign.jpg] |
| hyleasfan 2/12/09 4:08 PM | Love that billboard. edit: The Dover billboard. |
| clanker 2/12/09 4:28 PM | Soap box 2. It's amazing to see how some Christians are doing a complete turn around and claiming that evolution and science in general are now proof of God at work. I'm all for it because if enough people do the same, then maybe we can drop the silly notion of teaching creationism in schools and getting on with the much needed job of teaching our children something that will take them ahead, not back. |
| StrobeSML 2/12/09 6:05 PM | QUOTE (clanker @ Feb 12 2009, 04:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> It's amazing to see how some Christians are doing a complete turn around and claiming that evolution and science in general are now proof of God at work. I'm all for it because if enough people do the same, then maybe we can drop the silly notion of teaching creationism in schools and getting on with the much needed job of teaching our children something that will take them ahead, not back. Not all Christians were anti-evolution to begin with. Dr. Kenneth Miller was one of the scientists speaking against the ID crowd in the court. He is a Christian yet saw no conflict between his religious faith and his scientific research. Belief is not the enemy of reason. The problem is that Intelligent Design is not only bad science, it is bad theology. According to ID, the "designer" had to make changes in the development to create these new species. So God... pardon me, the "designer"... had to jump in to help with blood clotting and bacterial flagellum. I believe in God. However, I believe in a God that doesn't need to tinker with his creation. Mine created the universe with its structure and laws in one, glorious Big Bang and only had to watch as it came into being. He got it right the first time so why tinker? |
| Wonder 2/12/09 6:50 PM | QUOTE (clanker @ Feb 12 2009, 04:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Soap box 2. It's amazing to see how some Christians are doing a complete turn around and claiming that evolution and science in general are now proof of God at work. I'm all for it because if enough people do the same, then maybe we can drop the silly notion of teaching creationism in schools and getting on with the much needed job of teaching our children something that will take them ahead, not back. I do not know that this is true [do you have a source or anything?]. There are a few of us in my church who believe this way and talk about it in open discussions. We are most often people who have been educated within a science discipline. We are respected, so do not get argumentation. However, we do get a lot of non-comment or lulls , which lets me know there are many of the "created in seven days", believers present. |
| Weyland Yutani 2/12/09 7:22 PM | Whenever I read about the smugness of mankind, I remember this joke: One day a group of scientists got together and decided that man had come a long way and no longer needed God. They picked one scientist to go and tell Him that they were done with Him. The scientist walked up to God and said, "God, we've decided that we no longer need you. We're to the point that we can clone people and do many miraculous things, so why don't you just leave us be." God listened patiently to the man and after the scientist was finished talking, God said, "Very well. How about this? Let's have a man making contest." The scientist, with great arrogance said, "That would be fine." The Lord added, "Now, we are going to do this just like I did back in the old days with Adam." The scientist said, "Sure, no problem," then bent down and grabbed a handful of dirt. God said to the scientist, "No, no, no. You go get your own dirt!" "Just trying to build a better world..." |
| LicenseForMayhem 2/13/09 8:24 AM | QUOTE (StrobeSML @ Feb 12 2009, 06:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Not all Christians were anti-evolution to begin with. Dr. Kenneth Miller was one of the scientists speaking against the ID crowd in the court. He is a Christian yet saw no conflict between his religious faith and his scientific research. Belief is not the enemy of reason. Thank you for pointing that out. Sometimes I think some factions enjoy promulgating the idea that all Christians are ignorant, anti-science blockheads, since it adds fuel to their fire. |
| dragonrider 2/13/09 9:21 AM | QUOTE (A1 @ Feb 12 2009, 04:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That's probably true. It causes signs to be in places where they just don't belong. I know a tongue applied to the right spot has made me weak also.[attachment=3842:naughty_...rch_sign.jpg] |
| StrobeSML 2/13/09 4:28 PM | QUOTE (LicenseForMayhem @ Feb 13 2009, 08:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Thank you for pointing that out. Sometimes I think some factions enjoy promulgating the idea that all Christians are ignorant, anti-science blockheads, since it adds fuel to their fire. Some are. That's the problem. Some on the other "side" also turn this into a religious issue saying that science shows the non-existance of God. Science says nothing about the existance of God. Science deals with natural law and God is, by definition, supernatural and not bound by those laws. His existance cannot be tested and without some sort of test of a premise, there can be no conclusion. It boils down to this: faith is not the enemy of reason. Religious belief does not conflict science as they deal with two different areas. I have a strong belief in God and my view of science does not hurt that at all. In my view, science is a way of examining the wonder and glory of God's work. |
| GeezUS 2/14/09 8:20 AM | QUOTE (LicenseForMayhem @ Feb 13 2009, 08:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Thank you for pointing that out. Sometimes I think some factions enjoy promulgating the idea that all Christians are ignorant, anti-science blockheads, since it adds fuel to their fire. There is a direct correlation between education/IQ and belief in myth. My favorite story about mythoholism is about Kurt Wise who was mentioned in Richard Dawkin's The God Delusion. Kurt is highly educated in the sciences and has a high IQ. One day he decided to go through the Bible and literally cut out everything that he knew not to be true. After many months he ended up with a real "holey" book. The book was in tatters. He was confronted with a choice... http://www.baptiststandard.com/index.php?o...0&Itemid=53 http://tinyurl.com/cxg5sf To me, it's unbelievable that a person this highly educated in the sciences BELIEVES that the earth/universe is 6,000 years old. Faith, in this case, is the enemy of reason and rational thinking. |
| bigstew 2/14/09 11:10 AM | QUOTE (GeezUS @ Feb 14 2009, 08:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Faith, in this case, is the enemy of reason and rational thinking. And you ya poor shlub, have neither. |
| StrobeSML 2/14/09 11:36 AM | QUOTE (GeezUS @ Feb 14 2009, 08:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> There is a direct correlation between education/IQ and belief in myth. My favorite story about mythoholism is about Kurt Wise who was mentioned in Richard Dawkin's The God Delusion. Kurt is highly educated in the sciences and has a high IQ. One day he decided to go through the Bible and literally cut out everything that he knew not to be true. After many months he ended up with a real "holey" book. The book was in tatters. He was confronted with a choice... http://www.baptiststandard.com/index.php?o...0&Itemid=53 http://tinyurl.com/cxg5sf To me, it's unbelievable that a person this highly educated in the sciences BELIEVES that the earth/universe is 6,000 years old. Faith, in this case, is the enemy of reason and rational thinking. The issue there is a question of biblical literalism. For most religious people, this isn't an issue. We are aware that the Bible is not a physics book, math book, engineering manual, etc. The emphasis is on working towards greater Truths and not dealing with every line as if it were literally true. There are those of the fundamentalist beliefs that do believe that every word is literally true. These people are the issue. They become apologists for the Bible attempting to explain away inconsistancies and statements that the Bible got wrong. To these people, I can only commend the words of St. Augustine in the 4th century: QUOTE Usually, even a non-Christian knows something about the earth, the heavens, and the other elements of this world, about the motion and orbit of the stars and even their size and relative positions, about the predictable eclipses of the sun and moon, the cycles of the years and the seasons, about the kinds of animals, shrubs, stones, and so forth, and this knowledge he hold to as being certain from reason and experience. Now, it is a disgraceful and dangerous thing for an infidel to hear a Christian, presumably giving the meaning of Holy Scripture, talking nonsense on these topics; and we should take all means to prevent such an embarrassing situation, in which people show up vast ignorance in a Christian and laugh it to scorn. The shame is not so much that an ignorant individual is derided, but that people outside the household of faith think our sacred writers held such opinions, and, to the great loss of those for whose salvation we toil, the writers of our Scripture are criticized and rejected as unlearned men. If they find a Christian mistaken in a field which they themselves know well and hear him maintaining his foolish opinions about our books, how are they going to believe those books in matters concerning the resurrection of the dead, the hope of eternal life, and the kingdom of heaven, when they think their pages are full of falsehoods and on facts which they themselves have learnt from experience and the light of reason? Reckless and incompetent expounders of Holy Scripture bring untold trouble and sorrow on their wiser brethren when they are caught in one of their mischievous false opinions and are taken to task by those who are not bound by the authority of our sacred books. For then, to defend their utterly foolish and obviously untrue statements, they will try to call upon Holy Scripture for proof and even recite from memory many passages which they think support their position, although they understand neither what they say nor the things about which they make assertion. |












