‘A deliberate civic intrusion by the churches’

November 26th, 2008 10:01 am · 1 comment

Hm. Via Sullivan, an extremely provacative interview with gay Catholic Mexican-American (!) author Richard Rodriguez on California’s Proposition 8, and the hypocrisy he sees behind what he terms a ”deliberate civic intrusion” by the churches. Exerpts:

American families are under a great deal of stress. The divorce rate isn’t declining, it’s increasing. And the majority of American women are now living alone. We are raising children in America without fathers. I think of Michael Phelps at the Olympics with his mother in the stands. His father was completely absent. He was negligible; no one refers to him, no one noticed his absence.

The possibility that a whole new generation of American males is being raised by women without men is very challenging for the churches. I think they want to reassert some sort of male authority over the order of things. I think the pro-Proposition 8 movement was really galvanized by an insecurity that churches are feeling now with the rise of women….

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But the real challenge to the family right now is male irresponsibility and misbehavior toward women. If the Hispanic Catholic and evangelical churches really wanted to protect the family, they should address the issue of wife beating in Hispanic families and the misbehaviors of the father against the mother. But no, they go after gay marriage. It doesn’t take any brilliance to notice that this is hypocrisy of such magnitude that you blame the gay couple living next door for the fact that you’ve just beaten your wife….

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Then there is the Roman Catholic Church, my own church, which has just come off this extraordinary season of sexual scandal and misbehavior in the rectory against children. The church is barely out of the court and it’s trying to assume the role of governor of sexual behavior, having just proved to America its inability to govern its own sexual behavior.

Look at the evangelicals. In their insistence that people be born again, they know Americans are broken. In their circus-tent suburban churches, you find 10,000 people on a Sunday morning. You find people who have been divorced, people who have had drug experiences, people who have been in jail. These churches touch upon a dream that people can put our lives back together again.

Now these churches are going after homosexuals as a way of insisting on their own propriety. They are insisting that they have a role to play in the general society as moral guardians, when what we have seen in the recent past is just the opposite. I mean, it’s one thing for the churches to insist on their right to define the sacrament of marriage for their own members. But it’s quite another for them to insist that they have a right to define the relationships of people outside their communities. That’s really what’s most troubling about Proposition 8. It was a deliberate civic intrusion by the churches.

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  1 comment  Tags: Gay marriage · Religious conservatism

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Goldilocks
11/26/08
9:52 AM
Churches don’t vote. PEOPLE DO. Is this guy suggesting that if church attending people vote, they are commiting a deliberate civic intrusion? No matter what people believe, whether they are religious, irreligious, atheist, Shintoist, Methodist, gay, striaght, bi, whatever, they have a right to vote their conscience and everyone has one vote, (unless you are hooked up with ACORN). Yes churches may influence people, but so do many other organizations in society. Using the same logic in the article, if Prop 8 would have passed, than gay organizations could be accused of a deliberate civic intrusion as well. That would be equally as stupid, because as I said PEOPLE vote, not organizations.

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