Jesus rode a baby dinosaur
September 20th, 2008 1:30 pm · 24 comments
Via Sullivan, Palin the young earth creationist:
Another valley activist, Philip Munger, says that Palin also helped push the evangelical drive to take over the Mat-Su Borough school board. “She wanted to get people who believed in creationism on the board,” said Munger, a music composer and teacher. “I bumped into her once after my band played at a graduation ceremony at the Assembly of God. I said, ‘Sarah, how can you believe in creationism — your father’s a science teacher.’ And she said, ‘We don’t have to agree on everything.’
“I pushed her on the earth’s creation, whether it was really less than 7,000 years old and whether dinosaurs and humans walked the earth at the same time. And she said yes, she’d seen images somewhere of dinosaur fossils with human footprints in them.”
It’s Adam and Eve - not Adam and Steve T-Rex.
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There are currently 24 comments on this blog postView Topic | Comment on this blogGeezUS
9/21/08
2:17 PM | "It's Adam and Eve - not Adam and Steve T-Rex."
Adam and Eve, once expelled from "The Garden of Eden," would have survived 2 days tops before becoming a tasty snack for T-Rex or Velocorapters. Palin and every other creationist suffers from the disease called mental illness/retardation. |
dragonrider
9/21/08
3:12 PM | If adam and eve were the only original humans and they had two sons Caine and Abel where did the rest of us come from? |
justplainjoe
9/21/08
4:30 PM | If adam and eve were the only original humans and they had two sons Caine and Abel where did the rest of us come from?
i don't know, but noah had a son named "ham" which probably wasn't the best name given the hungry tigers and lions and dinosaurs on the ark. |
Paul Sweedlepipe
9/21/08
5:06 PM | i don't know, but noah had a son named "ham" which probably wasn't the best name given the hungry tigers and lions and dinosaurs on the ark.
 that was a laugh-out-loud post. |
harv1
9/21/08
10:59 PM | Wellllll...... there you have it. One Eve and all those guys. Unless she had some daughters (anyone care to name any that the bible tells you so?) |
eaglerick
9/21/08
11:28 PM | Wellllll...... there you have it. One Eve and all those guys. Unless she had some daughters (anyone care to name any that the bible tells you so?)
Genesis 5:4; The days of Adam after he fathered Seth were 800 years; and he had other sons and daughters. |
harv1
9/21/08
11:38 PM | Thanks eaglerick for the info. Seriously, I'm trying to understand this. Are you saying that Adam had Cain, Abel, Seth. I'm still looking for another woman's name other than Eve. |
dragonrider
9/22/08
3:14 PM | Thanks eaglerick for the info. Seriously, I'm trying to understand this. Are you saying that Adam had Cain, Abel, Seth. I'm still looking for another woman's name other than Eve. Then we got the whole problem all over again with Noah. a whole lot of incest must have been agoin on back then. |
graphicsully
9/22/08
4:29 PM | If adam and eve were the only original humans and they had two sons Caine and Abel where did the rest of us come from?
personally I think it is hilarious that Liberals find this harder to believe than everything came from nothing. And we're the retarded ones? |
harv1
9/22/08
4:34 PM | I don't think that anyone is saying that it's hard to believe. Do you have to be a conservative to believe? Don't think so...
Why is it a difficult question to answer? Does it rattle your faith to have to think about what the answer might be? |
Shawn
9/22/08
4:47 PM | personally I think it is hilarious that Liberals find this harder to believe than everything came from nothing. And we're the retarded ones?
How many people actually believe "everything came from nothing"? Very few I would suspect. Many people are very comfortable without a definitive answer to the question and don't feel the need to invent an answer.
Later...Shawn |
dragonrider
9/23/08
7:11 AM | Why is it when liberals point out 1 + 1 = 2 then they are branded anti christian but when conservative point out to liberals that 1+ 1 = 2 then liberals are anti christian if they don't agree. Many liberals are accept that God had a hand in creation that not all can be explained by evolution. But we are called anti christian if we say that we believe in evolution not 7 days of creation. When we point out that contradictions in the bible we are called bigoted anti christians. But when christians point out that evolution doesn't have all the answers , if we agree but still don't accept 7 day creation then again we are anti christian. Give me a break not everone believes that the bible was written word for word accurate description of the creation of the univers and all of gods creatures there in but that does not make us bigots or anti chritian or even atheists. |
WinstonTheLastHuman
9/23/08
8:19 AM | Many people are very comfortable without a definitive answer to the question and don't feel the need to invent an answer.
Well said. |
cyberscribbler
9/23/08
8:39 AM | personally I think it is hilarious that Liberals find this harder to believe than everything came from nothing. And we're the retarded ones? I know some conservative & libertarian atheists/agnostics, why disparage liberals. It's not exclusive to one political party .
If everything didn't come from nothing, who created God? Himself? |
AngelFace
9/23/08
10:36 AM | I know some conservative & libertarian atheists/agnostics, why disparage liberals. It's not exclusive to one political party .
If everything didn't come from nothing, who created God? Himself?
Everything involves a stretch for the human mind.
Where we encounter our great problems with understanding things is when we think that we are the smartest, the highest, the brightest -- when human beings stand in judgment of everything, making themselves god, and discarded everything they cannot understand.
Forget about God for a moment. What existed before the Big Bang? Where did the materials that interacted come from? And if a chain of events caused the destruction of the known universe, what would be left? What is eternity?
The Bible is true in every sphere it addresses. Nitpick all you want on the details. Every person is not mentioned during every time period. It is a history of God and His interactions with man and His plan for reconciling mankind with Himself.
The names relevant to that history are mentioned. Just like the history books you read, but don't nitpick looking for ways to shout, "AHA! GOTCHA!" in order to dump them in the trash. I read history and always find myself wondering about this person's wife, or whatever happened to deToqueville's traveling companions whoever they were, or the survivors of the French Revolution who DIDN'T get their heads lopped off -- who are NOT NAMED. |
solitary
9/23/08
11:15 AM | Interpreting the bible literally is really bad news. I think it may even warn of not doing so somewhere in itself. So I guess it's a lot like out legal and tax system, we have laws saying "do this" and somewhere else the law says "don't do this". Humans never learn.
Who said a day is 24 hours? Who said an hour is 60 minutes, who said a minute is 60 seconds, how long is a second? Really? Can you show me that on a ruler?
For all we know, a "day" in creation could be eons, millennia, who knows? The earth's rotation has been changing over time, maybe then the earth turned at a much different rate, so it was still the sun goes up, the sun comes down, but it takes a hundred lifetimes for that to happen? Look at the moon, IIRC, it takes a month (27 days) to make one revolution.
Historically, women are greatly under represented, so a lot of so-and-so's wife and so-and-so's daughter were never accounted for.
Maybe the universe is cyclical? Maybe every few millon years we all go nuclear wipe out everything but a few bacteria which are given the opportunity to try again, but each time, we evolve into a nuclear arms race and go nuts?
All I know for sure is we can't be the top of the ladder, we as a whole are far too cruel, too disingenuous, too righteous, too selfish and too inhumane to be the end all be all of creatures. Perhaps that's why God created polar bears, grizzlys, tigers and sharks?
"Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and good with ketchup" |
cyberscribbler
9/23/08
11:19 AM | What existed before the Big Bang? Where did the materials that interacted come from? And if a chain of events caused the destruction of the known universe, what would be left? What is eternity?
The Bible ... is a history of God and His interactions with man and His plan for reconciling mankind with Himself.
The names relevant to that history are mentioned. Just like the history books you read, but don't nitpick looking for ways to shout, "AHA! GOTCHA!" in order to dump them in the trash.
You make that distinction, others do not. It's a history of God's interactions with mankind as copper-aged mankind could understand it, which requires huge leaps of faith to believe it's comprehensive.
It's not an issue of looking for gotchas to discard it, instead to use our knowledge to fill in the blanks.
Which is worse accepting that dinosaurs and the age of the universe weren't covered in the Bible because they didn't think mankind could comprehend it or believing it's just Satan testing man's faith? |
dragonrider
9/23/08
4:35 PM | God gave humans a brain to use to reason not to blindly follow words written 3000 years ago. New revelations of science must be understood and the bible understood in light of our god give knowledge of the universe. If we now know that the universe was created billions of years ago that does not change the central faith belief that god created us and loves us and that we are to express that same love to our neighbors. I can believe in evolution and still believe that God has a hand on my shoulder and light unto my path. I can believe that Adam and Eve are mythical stories and still believe in the power of the Cross. |
GeezUS
9/23/08
6:15 PM | For all we know, a "day" in creation could be eons, millennia, who knows? The earth's rotation has been changing over time, maybe then the earth turned at a much different rate, so it was still the sun goes up, the sun comes down, but it takes a hundred lifetimes for that to happen?
What the f*#k are you smoking? Earth's rotation has been slowing down since its creation and not speeding up. God said, in the Bible, that he created everything in 6 days. If it had taken him longer, HE would have said so. Don't curve-fit your 21st century education (in what little you know of science) to bronze age myth. |
AngelFace
9/23/08
6:31 PM | God gave humans a brain to use to reason not to blindly follow words written 3000 years ago. New revelations of science must be understood and the bible understood in light of our god give knowledge of the universe. If we now know that the universe was created billions of years ago that does not change the central faith belief that god created us and loves us and that we are to express that same love to our neighbors. I can believe in evolution and still believe that God has a hand on my shoulder and light unto my path. I can believe that Adam and Eve are mythical stories and still believe in the power of the Cross.
Except that without the sin of Adam and Eve, you wouldn't need and couldn't explain the reason for the Cross ... |
dragonrider
9/23/08
9:13 PM | Except that without the sin of Adam and Eve, you wouldn't need and couldn't explain the reason for the Cross ... I don't need the sin of Adam and Eve to need the cross, I have plenty of my own sin as does everyone. One would have to believe the Adam and Eve story literally that Eve brought sin into the world in order to believe that the reason for the cross is Eve. Sorry I do not believe in talking snakes, dinosaurs living concurrently with humans nor of an earth in the thousands of years in age. I understand your understanding of the bible, I have my own that many also share that the stories of the old testament are not all to be taken as literal scientific or historic fact. |
NativeBlue
9/23/08
9:45 PM | Everything involves a stretch for the human mind.
Where we encounter our great problems with understanding things is when we think that we are the smartest, the highest, the brightest -- when human beings stand in judgment of everything, making themselves god, and discarded everything they cannot understand.
What I find often to be the main difference between "believers" and "nonbelievers" is whether you're okay with not understanding.
Many agnostics/atheists seem to just say "we don't know yet." I don't care that I don't know the answer to many things, including what came before a Big Bang. Maybe someday we'll find the answer, get the research, discover the cure, etc. Maybe we won't. But that's okay.
Most "believers" are NOT okay with not knowing. Religion offers answers, a sense of purpose, a sense of control — that their behavior causes good or bad results, if not here on earth, then in an afterlife. Just like every other religion throughout the ages, Christianity explains where we came from and what we can do to get what we want — how is a rain dance any different from praying for rain? Zeus any different from a Christian God?
Far from "making myself god" I just realize that no one truly has control over things that happen to them or others. So you do the best you can and hope good things may follow. |
AngelFace
9/23/08
10:28 PM | I don't need the sin of Adam and Eve to need the cross, I have plenty of my own sin as does everyone. One would have to believe the Adam and Eve story literally that Eve brought sin into the world in order to believe that the reason for the cross is Eve. Sorry I do not believe in talking snakes, dinosaurs living concurrently with humans nor of an earth in the thousands of years in age. I understand your understanding of the bible, I have my own that many also share that the stories of the old testament are not all to be taken as literal scientific or historic fact.
It's where the promise is made by God for a Redeemer. It is the beginning of the plan of God to restore His creation and His plan. |
Robotspyder
9/23/08
10:52 PM | One should remember that the book we all know as Genesis is a re-write of the ancient Sumerian texts.
From the city of Ur in the modern nation of Iraq. |
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