Iraqi PM backs Obama plan
July 19th, 2008 8:20 pm · 24 comments
Iraqi prime minister Maliki: Obama is right when he talks about withdrawing troops in 16 months.
News prompts memorable response from one GOP consultant who occasionally advises McCain. And that memorable response is correct.
It has not been a good week for John McCain. With Bush talking about “time horizons” - hmmm, “time horizons” sounds suspiciously like “time frame,” don’t you think - and approaching Iran diplomatically, McCain now looks like the outlier in terms of his uber-hawkishness; he now advocates a hard line that even the administration seems to be abandoning. Everyone’s converging, it seems - except the presumptive GOP nominee, who now finds himself in the position of telling Iraqis what they should want, and insisting that whatever it is they do want, they’re not going to get.
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There are currently 24 comments on this blog postView Topic | Comment on this bloglee41
7/19/08
9:02 PM | That didn't take long for Maliki to say he was 'mis-understood'. Yet is is no secret that a timeline for withdrawal of US troops was one of the stumbling blocks of the SOFA negotiations.
You do have to admire the acrobatic wordsmithing the Bush Administration is doing to avoid saying "timeline", with the latest being "joint aspirational time horizons".
It seems the McCain 50 year plan is not going over too well with the Iraqis.
I am sure that by November, Bush and McCain will declare 'victory' in Iraq.
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dragonrider
7/19/08
10:51 PM | QUOTE(lee41 @ Jul 19 2008, 09:02 PM) [snapback]413000[/snapback] That didn't take long for Maliki to say he was 'mis-understood'. Yet is is no secret that a timeline for withdrawal of US troops was one of the stumbling blocks of the SOFA negotiations.
You do have to admire the acrobatic wordsmithing the Bush Administration is doing to avoid saying "timeline", with the latest being "joint aspirational time horizons".
It seems the McCain 50 year plan is not going over too well with the Iraqis.
I am sure that by November, Bush and McCain will declare 'victory' in Iraq.
I heard last night on I think washington week that Iraq wants US to understand that Iraq is not N Korea or Germany. Permanent bases in Iraq are not on the table even though this is what McCain wants Iraq is against such a plan. |
podunk
7/20/08
6:43 AM | To declare a 'victory' and have it agreed upon by the world would be a great thing. It doesn't matter if it is done during Bush or Obama presidency. A 'victory' is a huge mental plus for the U.S. in the world and especially in that region. This is why we didn't want to pack up and leave (like the Democrats wanted) and give a perception of defeat.
To not think that we would have troops for a long period of time is ridiculous. Even Obama says we will. All his talk about a withdraw are for 'combat' troops and he acknowledges we will leave 'support' troops for quite some time. |
rotenone
7/20/08
6:53 AM | QUOTE(Lancaster Online @ Jul 19 2008, 08:25 PM) [snapback]412996[/snapback]
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Obama was right. So much for McCain's charge that Obama is naive on foreign policy. |
dragonrider
7/20/08
10:08 AM | QUOTE(podunk @ Jul 20 2008, 06:43 AM) [snapback]413112[/snapback] To declare a 'victory' and have it agreed upon by the world would be a great thing. It doesn't matter if it is done during Bush or Obama presidency. A 'victory' is a huge mental plus for the U.S. in the world and especially in that region. This is why we didn't want to pack up and leave (like the Democrats wanted) and give a perception of defeat.
To not think that we would have troops for a long period of time is ridiculous. Even Obama says we will. All his talk about a withdraw are for 'combat' troops and he acknowledges we will leave 'support' troops for quite some time. To spend billions of dollars just so america can have "mental plus" is rediculous which is why republicans are in such disfavor. I hope republicans are enjoying this recession brought on by this feel good policy of victory in Iraq.\ but presonally I would have rather skipped the whole recession thing and accepted a mental negative. The mental black eye that we have around the world as a result of Bush's policies will not be erased by a mental victory in Iraq. |
usedmeat
7/20/08
11:10 AM | Obama gave an antiwar speech that nobody recorded or remembers but that was enough for some to choose him over Hillary who voted yes on the AUMF.
Funny, that the few votes he decided to make in the Senate, during breaks in his presidential campaigning, were for funding the war he was against. Now he is on record as being for the same type of troop withdraw plan as Hillary instead of yanking them as soon as he took his hand off the Bible in January.
What a guy. I'll bet the Obama cultists are pleased 
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Right of Smart
7/21/08
11:20 AM | Gil missed the real point.
All 67 Muslim led countries will supprt Obama and not McCain.
Get it! They do.
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graphicsully
7/21/08
1:09 PM | QUOTE(Right of Smart @ Jul 21 2008, 11:20 AM) [snapback]413487[/snapback]
Gil missed the real point.
All 67 Muslim led countries will supprt Obama and not McCain.
Get it! They do.
its 57 Muslim led countries. |
justplainjoe
7/21/08
1:19 PM | QUOTE(Right of Smart @ Jul 21 2008, 11:20 AM) [snapback]413487[/snapback] Gil missed the real point.
All 67 Muslim led countries will supprt Obama and not McCain.
Get it! They do.
wow i didn't know they could even vote.thanks for the info, i'll call my congressman right away and then i'll send mccain a few thousand dollars.LOL
QUOTE(graphicsully @ Jul 21 2008, 01:09 PM) [snapback]413570[/snapback]
its 57 Muslim led countries.
are they sunni or shia?
better ask mccain lieberman.LOL
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grieker
7/21/08
1:23 PM | Taxpayers voting for Obama is like Chickens voting for Colonel Sanders!
By-the-way for those of you who may not be familiar with the acronym SOFA it is Status of Forces Agreement.
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Right of Smart
7/21/08
2:07 PM | 57 or 67 shite or sunni who cares. The point is they are all for obama.
Israel I pray for you. Because with obama as president your done.
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justplainjoe
7/21/08
2:19 PM | QUOTE(Right of Smart @ Jul 21 2008, 02:07 PM) [snapback]413625[/snapback] 57 or 67 shite or sunni who cares. The point is they are all for obama.
Israel I pray for you. Because with obama as president your done.
israel has 200 nukes. save your prayers for a winning lottery ticket.LOL
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podunk
7/21/08
2:40 PM | Promoting gambling joe?
I thought you told us to sin no more...... guess it was just talk. |
cyberscribbler
7/21/08
2:57 PM | QUOTE(podunk @ Jul 21 2008, 02:40 PM) [snapback]413639[/snapback]
I thought you told us to sin no more...... guess it was just talk. Actually Jesus said it first. Not that you'd recognize his teachings or follow his words, to begin with.
LOL
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podunk
7/21/08
3:21 PM | I'm just following joe's example....
he told us to do so....
he said look within....
not that fictional man in that book....
just an allegory.....
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justplainjoe
7/21/08
3:32 PM | QUOTE(podunk @ Jul 21 2008, 02:40 PM) [snapback]413639[/snapback] Promoting gambling joe?
I thought you told us to sin no more...... guess it was just talk.
if gambling was a sin, my son, the churches would not be engaged in it.LOL
QUOTE(cyberscribbler @ Jul 21 2008, 02:57 PM) [snapback]413644[/snapback] Actually Jesus said it first. Not that you'd recognize his teachings or follow his words, to begin with.
LOL
you forget the first commandment... " anything jesus said that i repeat , doesn't count." 
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podunk
7/21/08
3:33 PM | there you go again, not reading the good book...
"For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil. Some people, eager for money, have wandered from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs."
guess those churches better study up..... |
justplainjoe
7/21/08
3:58 PM | QUOTE(podunk @ Jul 21 2008, 03:33 PM) [snapback]413670[/snapback] there you go again, not reading the good book...
"For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil. Some people, eager for money, have wandered from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs."
guess those churches better study up.....
" a feast is made for laughter, and wine maketh merry: but money answereth all things"
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podunk
7/21/08
6:17 PM | "No one can serve two masters. Either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and Money." |
dragonrider
7/22/08
2:07 AM | QUOTE(podunk @ Jul 21 2008, 06:17 PM) [snapback]413755[/snapback] "No one can serve two masters. Either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and Money." What does a discussion about the bible have to do with the war in Iraq.
My best story in the bible is where this guy forgives one of his workers debts and the guy goes out and harangues one of his workers to pay off his debt. So the big boss decides to teach him a lesson so he tortures him until he pays back all his debt thus we can conclude that the bible and God are OK with torture and being a christian nation we should torture Iraqi's until the Iraqi'spay us back for the cost of the war in Iraq. What less should a Christian nation do but follow the bibles explicit affirmation of the use of torture. Hey better yet lets enslave the Iraqi's since the bible is ok with slavery also how many Iraqi slaves equals $750 billion
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bigstew
7/22/08
5:15 PM | QUOTE(dragonrider @ Jul 22 2008, 02:07 AM) [snapback]413862[/snapback] What does a discussion about the bible have to do with the war in Iraq.
My best story in the bible is where this guy forgives one of his workers debts and the guy goes out and harangues one of his workers to pay off his debt. So the big boss decides to teach him a lesson so he tortures him until he pays back all his debt thus we can conclude that the bible and God are OK with torture and being a christian nation we should torture Iraqi's until the Iraqi'spay us back for the cost of the war in Iraq. What less should a Christian nation do but follow the bibles explicit affirmation of the use of torture. Hey better yet lets enslave the Iraqi's since the bible is ok with slavery also how many Iraqi slaves equals $750 billion
Aaallllllllllllllllrighty then.  |
dragonrider
7/22/08
6:40 PM | QUOTE(bigstew @ Jul 22 2008, 05:15 PM) [snapback]414215[/snapback] Aaallllllllllllllllrighty then. |
bigstew
7/23/08
6:58 PM | QUOTE(dragonrider @ Jul 22 2008, 06:40 PM) [snapback]414233[/snapback] Hey Stew you going to Pride this weekend in Harrisburg, if so see you there. Sorry, if you need to see me so bad sweetie, come to the islands of the susquehanna.
What is pride?
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