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This would mean that just as biliruben factors [among others], can be controlled, so can hormonal factors be controlled in uterio. So, we need to step back from political implications and consider what corrective measures will be forthcoming. If this is decided as NOT genetic and NOT learning as initial cause, then there is still the fact that correction measures must be offered [and medical insurance will need to be addressed]. Within a few generations, homosexuality will no longer be an issue if the primary study turns out to be fact.



HOWEVER....I agree with BeingReal that the study was too small. Initial studies, however, usually must be done to add credibility to long term studies...for the purpose of funding and/or institutional support.

I'm glade we are one step closer to determining the origins of homosexuality, next step may be a cure.

So you favor a sort of infanticide of homosexual babies so that only heterosexual babies can be born to assuage your discomfort with homosexuality?

Why cure something that exists in all animals and may confer some benifit to species survival? Becuase it makes you uncomfortable? Lousy reason.

It really pizzes me off when someone assumes a giant leap like that!

I read that article, it's BS, there is no benefits. We have enough of designers and hair stylists, thank you.

Let's be honest if a pregnant mother to be could take a pill or pills to insure her child would get the correct balance of hormones to insure the child was gender specific, do you think she should would take the pills? Daa of course she would.

Well perhaps you could give a better discription of the elimination of gays and lesbians by corrective measures payed for by insurance.

A corrective measure could be as simple as medication.

Let's be honest if a pregnant mother to be could take a pill or pills to insure her child would get the correct balance of hormones to insure the child was gender specific, do you think she should would take the pills? Daa of course she would.

A corrective measure could be as simple as medication.

I understand over 40 well organized militant protestors are being shipped in from Philadelphia and outstate for the pride event Saturday. Can I expect to see some local yokels out protesting as well?

You mean the gay community might get some of its own medicine.
http://article8.org/docs/news_events/love_...t/conf_1029.htm
http://article8.org/docs/news_events/love_...f_1029_demo.htm
http://article8.org/docs/news_events/love_..._1029_signs.htm
IMO protests prove nothing and are futile, no matter who is protesting who.

So you favor a sort of infanticide of homosexual babies so that only heterosexual babies can be born to assuage your discomfort with homosexuality?

First of all...I am not uncomfortable with homosexuality. I have always suspected that the homosexual lifestyle is a choice. The new study fits into my belief...except...that it also adds the demension that the person may not have had as much choice as I imagined they did. I am a truth-seeker. Why would I not welcome new information? If this study is true, then I must increase my tolerance level for those already chosing to live the homosexual lifestyle. You should be happy about that.

What I said had NOTHING to do with infanticide. There are tests now to determine whether a fetus has a developing heart problem. In-utero surgery makes permanent corrections. Would you suggest that we abandon such procedures and allow the fetus [edit: BABY] to be born with a defective heart?

If it is proven that homosexual tendancies are caused by an imbalance of hormones in utero, then I am suggesting that we treat the environment of the uterus to ensure that a male who was genetically to be male is born male...and a female who is genetically programed to be female is born female.

What I see if this study turns out to be true, is that tolerance COULD happen for those who manifested homosexual tendencies before the treatment. After a treatment is created, there should be fewer incidents of gender misidentification at birth. If there is more than one cause of homosexuality, that will then become more evident, as well.

Some of it's own medicine? All of the above about only one demonstration.

A few media pictures of outrageous drag queens and some photos of some of the other attire gay people wear at these events will speak volumes and much louder than protests ever will.

Super



I'm still trying to understand the zealots. Why do they center their lives around the gays. Sometimes when you understand people it helps to make you more tolerant. At this point all I can think of is hatred, bigotry and intolerence of others. I've been told I have a strong sense of right and wrong. They are right.

This would mean that just as biliruben factors [among others], can be controlled, so can hormonal factors be controlled in uterio. So, we need to step back from political implications and consider what corrective measures will be forthcoming. If this is decided as NOT genetic and NOT learning as initial cause, then there is still the fact that correction measures must be offered [and medical insurance will need to be addressed]. Within a few generations, homosexuality will no longer be an issue if the primary study turns out to be fact.



HOWEVER....I agree with BeingReal that the study was too small. Initial studies, however, usually must be done to add credibility to long term studies...for the purpose of funding and/or institutional support.

I'm glade we are one step closer to determining the origins of homosexuality, next step may be a cure.

Why cure something that exists in all animals and may confer some benifit to species survival? Becuase it makes you uncomfortable? Lousy reason.

A corrective measure could be as simple as medication.

I understand over 40 well organized militant protestors are being shipped in from Philadelphia and outstate for the pride event Saturday. Can I expect to see some local yokels out protesting as well?

Uh, that would be a no. I am not a fan of taking pills of any kind let alone hormone pills. And there are plenty more women like me. I'm not saying the choice shouldn't be offered, but I would decline. At a minimum, long-term studies on that drug would need to be conducted. Could cause far more problems for the individual and mother than just "curing" homosexuality.


That isn't always simple.

You mean the gay community might get some of its own medicine.

http://article8.org/docs/news_events/love_...t/conf_1029.htm
http://article8.org/docs/news_events/love_...f_1029_demo.htm
http://article8.org/docs/news_events/love_..._1029_signs.htm


IMO protests prove nothing and are futile, no matter who is protesting who.

First of all...I am not uncomfortable with homosexuality. I have always suspected that the homosexual lifestyle is a choice. The new study fits into my belief...except...that it also adds the demension that the person may not have had as much choice as I imagined they did. I am a truth-seeker. Why would I not welcome new information? If this study is true, then I must increase my tolerance level for those already chosing to live the homosexual lifestyle. You should be happy about that.

What I said had NOTHING to do with infanticide.

Those of you who deeply believe that God is in control of everything in our lives should be comfortable with gays since they are just as much part of his plan as anyone else. You want to play God now because you think you know better than he does?

Super



I'm still trying to understand the zealots. Why do they center their lives around the gays. Sometimes when you understand people it helps to make you more tolerant. At this point all I can think of is hatred, bigotry and intolerence of others. I've been told I have a strong sense of right and wrong. They are right.

What really amazes me is that Wonder doesn't consider this post to be offensive. It's all about seeking a cure when none is needed.

Google "gays protest focus on the family", and start counting the many different incidents of protests. I didn't feel like listing them all. And that is against only one organization.


As I said, protests prove nothing and I hope that the protestors stay at home. Because if they do show up, the media will be focused on them and not the event with its drag queens and other gay shenigans etc. A few media pictures of outrageous drag queens and some photos of some of the other attire gay people wear at these events will speak volumes and much louder than protests ever will.

I must remember to don my gay apparel tomorrow!

Oh that's right! Wrong holiday...

Differences of opinion is not hatred, bigotry and intolerance.

What really amazes me is that Wonder doesn't consider this post to be offensive. It's all about seeking a cure when none is needed.

Google "gays protest focus on the family", and start counting the many different incidents of protests. I didn't feel like listing them all. And that is against only one organization.

As I said, protests prove nothing and I hope that the protestors stay at home. Because if they do show up, the media will be focused on them and not the event with its drag queens and other gay shenigans etc. A few media pictures of outrageous drag queens and some photos of some of the other attire gay people wear at these events will speak volumes and much louder than protests ever will.

So, we need to step back from political implications and consider what corrective measures will be forthcoming.

I'm glade we are one step closer to determining the origins of homosexuality, next step may be a cure.

It really pizzes me off when someone assumes a giant leap like that!

I read that article, it's BS, there is no benefits. We have enough of designers and hair stylists, thank you.

Let's be honest if a pregnant mother to be could take a pill or pills to insure her child would get the correct balance of hormones to insure the child was gender specific, do you think she should would take the pills? Daa of course she would.

A corrective measure could be as simple as medication.

Differences of opinion is not hatred, bigotry and intolerance.

What really amazes me is that Wonder doesn't consider this post to be offensive. It's all about seeking a cure when none is needed.

Homosexual lifestyle choice event? Why can't you refer to it by its proper name. Would you like it I called the event last week as the Churchies lifestyle choice event.

Good morning everyone! It certainly looks like we will have a beautiful sunny day for the Lancaster Pride event. I hope that everyone attending has a great time and enjoys and remembers all of the hard work that the steering committee, volunteers, and entertainers have done. I'll be there with family and friends supporting the local community. Big hugs to all...

I'll be there as one of the silent witness's see ya there.

I hope that you got enough sleep! It should be a very good day.

is an hour and a half enough sleep.

Big difference between a person with cleft lip and pallet(its not called a hair lip moron) which my oldest adopted son had and homosexuality doncha think. Oh wait you don't do you, think that is.

As I said, I do not call names. I am no moron and I know it is a cleft lip and palate as I had a partial one of the same....only internal,covered, and with no external manifestations. It was corrected, and I am glad.

It is not at all different. If this new scientific study pans out...it could be that homosexuality will be a thing of history in a few generations. How is it different than a baby addicted at birth, for example?

Have a great time at your pride celebration.

As I said, I do not call names. I am no moron and I know it is a cleft lip and palate as I had a partial one of the same....only internal,covered, and with no external manifestations. It was corrected, and I am glad.

It is not at all different. If this new scientific study pans out...it could be that homosexuality will be a thing of history in a few generations. How is it different than a baby addicted at birth, for example?

Have a great time at your pride celebration.

As I said, I do not call names. I am no moron and I know it is a cleft lip and palate as I had a partial one of the same....only internal,covered, and with no external manifestations. It was corrected, and I am glad.

It is not at all different. If this new scientific study pans out...it could be that homosexuality will be a thing of history in a few generations. How is it different than a baby addicted at birth, for example?

Have a great time at your pride celebration.

Sprout? Why the change. New beginning today.

A couple of reasons. The biggest reason is that I forgot my login and password LOL

Just noticed. Scoutswife posts have been eliminated. Can anyone explain why. She clearly stated she forgot her sign on.

Thanks Twin didn't know. Sprout I apologize for causing a problem. Enjoy your event.

I'm glade we are one step closer to determining the origins of homosexuality, next step may be a cure.

A corrective measure could be as simple as medication.

Would be nice if someone were working a cure for ignorance and hate.

There is nothing to be "corrected". Gays and lesbians are people not mistakes or problems to be corrected.

Would be nice if someone were working a cure for ignorance and hate.





There is nothing to be "corrected". Gays and lesbians are people not mistakes or problems to be corrected.

Speaking of mistakes...wasn't it Obama who said he was for abortion because he didn't want his children saddled with "a mistake"??? Are unborn children people or mistakes??...Just askin..

Criticizing Oboom on a gay topic …..you are asking for it.

Yes, it would be nice, wouldn't it. It would also be nice if people would stop claiming that someone is ignorant or hateful simply because they hold an opposing viewpoint. that tactic is ignorant in the extreme.

Recently two lesbians approached a photographer in Albuquerque, N.M., and asked her to photograph their "commitment ceremony." The photographer and her husband are Christians, so she couldn't take the job.

That should have been the end of it. But one of the lesbians complained to New Mexico's Human Rights Commission, not just protesting this case but also demanding that the photographer be ordered to photograph such ceremonies in the future. A panel for that commission hauled her up for a one-day trial. And in April, it said she was in the wrong, and adding insult to injury, told her to pay more than $6,600 to cover the lesbian's legal expenses.

How could the commission justify such a ruling? Because - New Mexico has a "human rights" law that bans discrimination on the basis of "sexual orientation."

The photographer is challenging the ruling with help from the Alliance Defense Fund, so it may yet be overturned. But this case shows the mischief these laws can work: When we have them, then people can be harassed and have their very livelihood threatened by the state unless they're willing to violate their conscience.

• The Arlington County (Va.) Human Rights Commission ordered the owner of a video company to duplicate two videotapes promoting the homosexual political agenda or pay for duplication elsewhere. The commission reversed its ruling a short time later one day before the owner filed suit against members for overreaching their authority. What may have made the difference: The state nondiscrimination law does not include sexual orientation.

• The New Jersey Division of Civil Rights revoked the tax-exempt status of a church that refused to rent a beachfront gazebo on church property for a same-sex civil union ceremony.

• A federal court ruled that an Arizona private-adoption agency Web site could not picture only married, opposite-sex couples, despite the adoption agency's belief and policy that children are better off being placed with a mom and a dad. The adoption agency agreed not to do business in California.

In Colorado, the Legislature has approved a bill that would force religious groups to provide services to homosexuals, bisexuals, cross-dressers and the transgendered, even when doing so promotes a message that violates religious convictions.

Also in Colorado, under the bill’s language covering "transgender status," all public restrooms and locker rooms would be open to anyone who self-identifies as a member of that gender. A cross-dressing man could sue for access to a woman's restroom on the grounds that he's really "expressing" his gender identity as a woman.

Just be thankful you still have the freedom to voice a viewpoint. The day may come if you have an opposing view, you might be hauled to court.

Yes, it would be nice, wouldn't it. It would also be nice if people would stop claiming that someone is ignorant or hateful simply because they hold an opposing viewpoint. that tactic is ignorant in the extreme.
Do you feel the same about Trisomy 21 (Down's syndrome)? How about Cerebral Palsy? How about dwarfism? How about any other number of birth abnormalities? Homosexuality (despite the efforts of those within the homosexual community to prove otherwise), is abnormal. It doesn't make the homosexual any less human or any less loved of God, but it is not normal, anymore than any of the above birth "defects" are normal (and I put that word in quotes as I see persons with the aforementioned issues as gifts to be loved and cared for, and helped in any way possible due to their disadvantages). If indeed homosexuality is either genetic or affected by uterin fluids, then it is a birth abnormality just like the others listed.

Unfortunately, the lives of babies who are diagnosed in utero with any of the aforementioned "defects" are immediately put into danger. Many such children are killed prior to ever seeing the light of day. Many die after being removed from their mother's womb after long moments of either being left alone, or held until they expire. Since you now possibly have something in common with these children, how do you view terminating their lives?

Or, if you believe that their lives should be terminated, will you simply ignore the logical connection and continue in your own self imposed ignorance and denial?

Since I know that I am likely to get flamed for my views, I will state up front that I will NOT RESPOND to any flames, so you may as well not bother (but I know some are likely to anyway). If anyone is up for some logical discussion; however, I am game.

I think a good parallel would also be the deaf community. Galludet U. has taken a similar stance -- basically, who is to say that deafness is not normal and the gold standard, and hearing is an affliction to be dispensed with. The militant deaf community routinely shuns and ostracizes anyone who has a cochlear implant done on themselves or on their child. That seems to be the position of several of the posters on this thread -- homosexuality is the norm and heteros need to be cured.

GOD BLESS AMERICA, where we have the right to believe that down is up and day is night, and then fight to the death to prove ourselves correct and everyone else a fool.

Sheesh what a distortion, can't remember any gay person seeking to change a heterosexuals lifestyle choice but I hear almost daily about breeder churchies lifestyle choicers wanting to change gay people into straight bible thumping churchies.

Oh really?

http://www.theonion.com/content/node/28970



http://thinkpinkradio.com/2008/02/27/homos...-business-card/



Those are not "conservative" sources either.


Distortion, my left thumb!

ROFL. Two comedy websites. Pretty funny too!

My thought as well, having lived in Wisconsin I was going to point out that the Onion is a strictly tongue in cheek satire of the news and not real news the other business card was obviously a satire on some breeders claims that gays recruit.

ROFL. Two comedy websites. Pretty funny too!

Unfortunately, the lives of babies who are diagnosed in utero with any of the aforementioned "defects" are immediately put into danger. Many such children are killed prior to ever seeing the light of day. Many die after being removed from their mother's womb after long moments of either being left alone, or held until they expire. Since you now possibly have something in common with these children, how do you view terminating their lives?

Or, if you believe that their lives should be terminated, will you simply ignore the logical connection and continue in your own self imposed ignorance and denial?

I just can't resist (sorry all):

All those expectant mothers out there better stay away from The Birdcage, ToWong Fu, Rent, La Boheme, Desert Hearts, etc etc etc, you'll make those babies gay!!

I'll apologise, I was very tired this am when I was responding and could not really interpret what I was reading. Honestly, if I had been truly alert, I would have ignored the question altogether since I now see that it was an obvious deflection.



You got me on those two links, however, there are true stories out there of deliberate attempts to proseletize by the homosexual lobby. Here's one that is a legitamate story.



http://www.aim.org/media-monitor/homosexua...ent-in-schools/



There are more like it that I found on my blackberry this morning, but I haven't figured out how to link on that thing, but the information is out there and free for any who wish to find it.



To claim that homosexuals never try to recruit others to become homosexuals is like claiming that there are never clouds in the sky.



Everyone proseletizes others to join them in their point of view. Christians, muslims, buddists, homosexuals, Mac junkies, PC geeks, Coke drinkers, Pepsi drinkers (though why anyone would want to drink Pepsi, I have no idea). It just varies in intensity and overtness.



Getting back to my original question though, are you going to answer it, or are you going to continue to deflect?

You got me on those two links, however, there are true stories out there of deliberate attempts to proseletize by the homosexual lobby. Here's one that is a legitamate story.



http://www.aim.org/media-monitor/homosexua...ent-in-schools/



There are more like it that I found on my blackberry this morning, but I haven't figured out how to link on that thing, but the information is out there and free for any who wish to find it.



To claim that homosexuals never try to recruit others to become homosexuals is like claiming that there are never clouds in the sky.



Everyone proseletizes others to join them in their point of view. Christians, muslims, buddists, homosexuals, Mac junkies, PC geeks, Coke drinkers, Pepsi drinkers (though why anyone would want to drink Pepsi, I have no idea). It just varies in intensity and overtness.



Getting back to my original question though, are you going to answer it, or are you going to continue to deflect?

First off I was not deflecting I was answering someones elses response to your post. Second in further response on that issue, one can not recruit someone to be gay as it is not a choice either you are gay or you are not no choice involved. Third to story you cite the teachers involved were fired great they should have been in full support that health programs should not be teaching how to have sex.



Now on your post, there is I guess a fundamental disagreement we have that is unresolvable. By definition being gay is abnormal as not the majority but a minority in the general population. I am also left handed this is abnormal also. I have high arches and wide feet 4E shoes this is abnormal, all pro basketball players are abnormal as the normal is not to be 7' tall. So yes gay is abnormal but then you go on to compare it with a defect and that is our fundamental disagreement, I I see no defect in being gay. Therefore why should limited health care dollars and time be allocated to correct something that is not a defect. Also I am to some degree stereotyping but a large portion of those in creative artistic endeavors, arts, acting, singing, etc are gay is the same conditions which lead to homosexuality related to creativity would we be losing the creativity of the likes of Michaelangelo and Davinci if we eliminated homosexuals I don't have an answer for that neither do you is it worth the risk, I say no. My being left handed is a far greater handicap in my life than is my homosexuality should I call for the elimination of left handedness prolly not would lessen the thrill of baseball if there were no left handers. Do I think that those with Downs syndrome be aborted or cerebral palsy personally no , I have a niece with cerebral palsy. Do I support a change in the constitutional decision to allow abortion , no , I stand by a womans right to chose. My Body My Choice is as important to me a transgender woman as it is to any woman . I put my money where my mouth is when I adopted two special needs children one with cleft lip and pallet and one with a risk of failure to thrive.

Damn!! You had to have been high when you typed this post. ...lol

Do you ever have anything intelligent to add to the conversation?

if I want your opinion, I'll give it to you...

either you are gay or you are not no choice involved

My Body My Choice