The awesomest election ever

June 13th, 2008 9:55 am · 25 comments

Via John Cole, Scalzi explains to us the rationale behind Fox’s use of “Baby Mama”:

Back in the day – you know, when presidential candidates were respectably white – news organizations called potential First Ladies “wives.” But now that black folks are running, we can get all funky fresh with the lingo, yo. So it’s basically fine for Fox News to use “Baby Mama” for Michelle Obama, slang that implies a married 44-year-old Princeton-educated lawyer is, to use an Urban Dictionary definition of the term, “some chick you knocked up on accident during a fling who you can’t stand but you have to tolerate cuz she got your baby now.” Because the Obamas are black! And the blacks, they’re all relaxed about that sh*t, yo. Word up. And anyway, as the caption clearly indicates, it’s not Fox News that’s calling Michelle Obama “Baby Mama,” it’s outraged liberals. Fox News is just telling you what those outraged liberals are saying. They didn’t want to use the term “Baby Mama.” But clearly they had no choice.

Just like they’ll have “no choice” once they start hauling out the “N” word - that someone else is using, see, we’re just reporting the facts - within the month.

This election is going to be so awesome.

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cyberscribbler
6/13/08
10:39 AM
QUOTE
Michelle “Fox News’ Ethnic Shield” Malkin defends Fox News’ use of the “Baby Mama”
Michelle Malkin will continue to make excuses for Fox News’ dog-whistling racism that expose the fact that she’s about as familiar with logical thinking as a rainbow trout is with knitting,
Exactly who were the outraged liberals, to begin with?,
As if it really matters, they know they're out there, somewhere, and that's justification in and of itself. rolleyes.gif
Pericles
6/13/08
11:04 AM
QUOTE(cyberscribbler @ Jun 13 2008, 10:39 AM) [snapback]400766[/snapback]
Exactly who were the outraged liberals, to begin with?,
As if it really matters, they know they're out there, somewhere, and that's justification in and of itself. rolleyes.gif


I'm trying to find out who they were too. I'm thinking Code Pink members or maybe Keith Olbermann.

No mention of it on the Fight the Smears site:

http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/fightthesmearshome/

I'll try snopes.com later.
cyberscribbler
6/13/08
11:49 AM
QUOTE(Pericles @ Jun 13 2008, 11:04 AM) [snapback]400772[/snapback]
I'm trying to find out.. maybe ...No mention of it ...I'll try later.
Yea, that's what I thought.
It was a "bad decision" by a chyron operator, none of it was intentional... lol_whistle.gif
Pericles
6/13/08
12:07 PM
QUOTE(cyberscribbler @ Jun 13 2008, 11:49 AM) [snapback]400800[/snapback]
Yea, that's what I thought.
It was a "bad decision" by a chyron operator, none of it was intentional... lol_whistle.gif


Chyron? The scroll at the bottom of the screen?

This isn't really related:

Neil Cavuto doesn't hesitate to remove the crawl and the chyron when he has a guest with big boobs on. On those days, that screen is clear as a bell so viewers have an unobstructed, uncluttered view of the topic at hand.

dragonrider
6/13/08
12:36 PM
QUOTE(cyberscribbler @ Jun 13 2008, 10:39 AM) [snapback]400766[/snapback]
Exactly who were the outraged liberals, to begin with?,
As if it really matters, they know they're out there, somewhere, and that's justification in and of itself. rolleyes.gif
Its the same people that King George is talking about when he says some people
cyberscribbler
6/13/08
12:40 PM
QUOTE(Pericles @ Jun 13 2008, 12:07 PM) [snapback]400807[/snapback]
This isn't really related:
Neil Cavuto doesn't hesitate to remove the crawl and the chyron when he has a guest with big boobs on. On those days, that screen is clear as a bell so viewers have an unobstructed, uncluttered view of the topic at hand.
It's definately related.
Fox Noise isn't a legitimate news source. It's tabloid propaganda TV at it's worst. Just like Rupert Murdoch's other fine news outlet, The Sun

and it's regular sleaze page, 3
Pericles
6/13/08
12:55 PM
QUOTE(cyberscribbler @ Jun 13 2008, 12:40 PM) [snapback]400829[/snapback]
It's definately related.
Fox Noise isn't a legitimate news source. It's tabloid propaganda TV at it's worst. Just like Rupert Murdoch's other fine news outlet, The Sun

and it's regular sleaze page, 3


Viewed by millions of sleazy Americans clinging to their guns and God?
newsjunkie
6/13/08
12:57 PM
QUOTE(Pericles @ Jun 13 2008, 12:55 PM) [snapback]400840[/snapback]


Viewed by millions of sleazy Americans clinging to their guns and God?


Aww, did you get your feelings hurt?

cyberscribbler
6/13/08
12:59 PM
QUOTE(Pericles @ Jun 13 2008, 12:55 PM) [snapback]400840[/snapback]
Viewed by millions of sleazy Americans
Like 24/7 Jerry Springer, only toned down a bit.

dragonrider
6/13/08
12:59 PM
QUOTE(Pericles @ Jun 13 2008, 12:55 PM) [snapback]400840[/snapback]


Viewed by millions of sleazy Americans clinging to their guns and God?
No NO its clinging to their guns and the constitution. McBush got it right becuase if we don't cling to our constitution the republicans are going to gut in right before our eyes.
Pericles
6/13/08
3:27 PM
QUOTE(newsjunkie @ Jun 13 2008, 12:57 PM) [snapback]400844[/snapback]


Aww, did you get your feelings hurt?



Not motivated by feelings. That's the other party.


QUOTE(cyberscribbler @ Jun 13 2008, 12:59 PM) [snapback]400845[/snapback]
Like 24/7 Jerry Springer, only toned down a bit.



Or MSNBC from 7 - 10 pm.


QUOTE(cyberscribbler @ Jun 13 2008, 12:40 PM) [snapback]400829[/snapback]
It's definately related.
Fox Noise isn't a legitimate news source. It's tabloid propaganda TV at it's worst. Just like Rupert Murdoch's other fine news outlet, The Sun

and it's regular sleaze page, 3


Here I was trying to change the subject to something I thought might be more fun... big boobs, and you go right back to politics. Killjoy.
cyberscribbler
6/13/08
3:44 PM
QUOTE(Pericles @ Jun 13 2008, 03:27 PM) [snapback]400937[/snapback]
Here I was trying to change the subject to something I thought might be more fun... big boobs, and you go right back to politics. Killjoy.
Who changed subjects? There are PLENTY of big boobs in politics. laugh.gif
Pericles
6/13/08
3:47 PM
QUOTE(cyberscribbler @ Jun 13 2008, 03:44 PM) [snapback]400946[/snapback]
Who changed subjects? There are PLENTY of big boobs in politics. laugh.gif


laugh.gif You win - like always.
grieker
6/13/08
4:11 PM
I still want to know why Barack is called Black when he is equally White?
dragonrider
6/13/08
7:17 PM
QUOTE(grieker @ Jun 13 2008, 04:11 PM) [snapback]400972[/snapback]
I still want to know why Barack is called Black when he is equally White?
Dumb really Dumb, why not ask that of the people who decided the one drop rule that says anyone with one drop of black blood is black. That was the rule in the era that so many republicans miss so I reckon it applies now.
bigstew
6/13/08
8:30 PM
QUOTE(dragonrider @ Jun 13 2008, 07:17 PM) [snapback]401005[/snapback]
That was the rule in the era that so many republicans miss so I reckon it applies now.
You're kidding right? You mean like democratic senator Byrd of West Virginia?
dragonrider
6/13/08
9:04 PM
QUOTE(bigstew @ Jun 13 2008, 08:30 PM) [snapback]401014[/snapback]
You're kidding right? You mean like democratic senator Byrd of West Virginia?
Hey I never voted for him, I would never vote for a former member of the Klan But then he is about the only senator that is a bigger Fossil than McBush.
harv1
6/13/08
9:26 PM
"I still want to know why Barack is called Black when he is equally White?"

I think that's a fair question, grieker. It's because when people look at him, they see 'black.' For some people that's a plus, for some that's a minus, and for others it's not the reason that they would or would not vote for him.

There are a number of people who fight the label of being called anything but white. Bob Barr is a good example of that. There have been queens of England with African blood but it was 'ignored.'

And then you come to someone like Heather Locklear. Would you think "black" when you see her? Of course not - and yet she is descended from the Melungeons of the south; a mixed race of people who were often called 'mulatto' on the census.

Race is in the eye of the beholder, I think. And in the eye of the person who is being spoken of. Obama doesn't deny his African roots; Bob Barr has denied it repeatedly. And like those queens of England, it's "ignored" by his constituents.
bigstew
6/14/08
12:01 AM
QUOTE(dragonrider @ Jun 13 2008, 09:04 PM) [snapback]401018[/snapback]
Hey I never voted for him, I would never vote for a former member of the Klan But then he is about the only senator that is a bigger Fossil than McBush.
So then your only commenting on politicians you vote for, even with your blanket statements.

You must only vote for republicans. smile.gif

dragonrider
6/14/08
2:34 AM
QUOTE(bigstew @ Jun 14 2008, 12:01 AM) [snapback]401049[/snapback]
So then your only commenting on politicians you vote for, even with your blanket statements.

You must only vote for republicans. smile.gif

Wow did you have a net for such a big leap from what I said to what you interpreted.
bigstew
6/14/08
8:21 AM
QUOTE(dragonrider @ Jun 14 2008, 02:34 AM) [snapback]401072[/snapback]
Wow did you have a net for such a big leap from what I said to what you interpreted.
Actually, it was only a small step in your hypocrisy.

You made a point to generalise all republicans as to wanting to return to a more racist time, though you do support it with any facts or statements made by any republicans. In retort, I mentioned an actual living, democratic senator who was a high ranking member in the ku klux klan, to which you reply, "I didn't vote for him."

So, you either have no problem with known racists in the democratic party, because they have a D beside their name, or you only discuss politicians you vote for.

Giving you the benefit of the doubt, I assumed the lesser of the two evils.

Did I not pick the right choice of the two?

usedmeat
6/14/08
12:50 PM
Well, Michelle Obama referred to Barak as "Her baby's daddy" when he started his run for the Senate.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnMrJwUCZDk
So, what's the big deal?

Anyway all this does is put up a smoke screed (pun intended) to shield Obama from questions about his relationships with a host of unsavory charaters, starting with Tony Rezko and ending with Jeremiah Wright.

Is he such a poor judge of charater or is he willing to do anything necessary to gain power?

Remember that Tony Rezko was convicted on 16 of the 24 corruption counts in federal court, His sentencing isn't until September 3rd. Plenty of time for him to give up his accomplices.
Artie See
6/14/08
1:14 PM
QUOTE(grieker @ Jun 13 2008, 04:11 PM) [snapback]400972[/snapback]
I still want to know why Barack is called Black when he is equally White?
Probably because individuals of mixed race were historically grouped with blacks by other cultures. When discrimination was still acceptable in the United States, anyone with dark brown skin was considered to be a "Negro", and treated accordingly. Consequently, people of mixed heritage came to identify themselves as being black.

When I was in junior high school, a friend who naturally tanned quite dark was denied entrance to the Brookside swimming pool on several occasions, because he was considered to be black. The joke was, he wasn't born in the U.S., he was a pure-blooded British citizen!

I've had the opportunity to meet several residents of various African countries. Most of these people were much darker-skinned than what we are used to seeing here. I also encountered several Ethiopian immigrants while I was in Israel, wearing IDF uniforms, and those young men were BLACK. The point is, most black individuals who live here in the U.S. are of mixed heritage, just like most Caucasians here are of mixed heritage (for example, I'm roughly 50% Pennsylvania Dutch, 25% Irish, and 25% English).
Rural Conservative
6/14/08
11:55 PM
QUOTE(Artie See @ Jun 14 2008, 01:14 PM) [snapback]401148[/snapback]
Probably because individuals of mixed race were historically grouped with blacks by other cultures. When discrimination was still acceptable in the United States, anyone with dark brown skin was considered to be a "Negro", and treated accordingly. Consequently, people of mixed heritage came to identify themselves as being black.

When I was in junior high school, a friend who naturally tanned quite dark was denied entrance to the Brookside swimming pool on several occasions, because he was considered to be black. The joke was, he wasn't born in the U.S., he was a pure-blooded British citizen!

I've had the opportunity to meet several residents of various African countries. Most of these people were much darker-skinned than what we are used to seeing here. I also encountered several Ethiopian immigrants while I was in Israel, wearing IDF uniforms, and those young men were BLACK. The point is, most black individuals who live here in the U.S. are of mixed heritage, just like most Caucasians here are of mixed heritage (for example, I'm roughly 50% Pennsylvania Dutch, 25% Irish, and 25% English).


See, here's the thing people don't seem to really get. The whole idea of "black", "white", etc. is antiquated and entirely innacurate. There is only one "race," that being the human race. The differences that make us unique, be they skin color, culture, or just plain out individuality, should be things that unite us, rather than things that divide us.

I'm rather extensively well read, and the world we see in the writings of Samuel Langhorn Clemens, is not the world of today. The America of the 1960's in which there was great upheaval and an all out culture war unlike any ever seen in this country (or elsewhere for that matter), is not the America of today. Many of those of us who are younger, who were born after the upheaval of that time, do not see people by the color of their skin, but rather by their individual actions. I've been asked before whether I get nervous if I see a "black" man on a city street. Quite honestly, I've never been harmed by anyone who would fit that description, and so I do not see anyone of dark complexion as a threat. On the contrary, I've only ever been robbed, beaten, or had attempts upon my character by persons who would be considered caucasian. I can think of one occasion in college actually, where I had come under a vicious attack by another "white" student. One of the greatest supports I had at that time was a good friend of African-American descent who took time to pray with me and help me through the difficulty of the emotional struggle I was dealing with.

I also see things through the eyes of a Bible scholar (the area in which I have my degree, and no, I'm not a pastor, nor do I wish to be). Through my own study of the scriptures, I have come to the conclusion that since we all share a singular ancestral couple (that being Adam and Eve), we are all related. We are all brothers and sisters, whether our complexion be dark or so fair skinned that we burn to a crisp after a minute in the sun.

The antiquated ideals of men like Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Jeremiah Wright, and anyone else you can name who throw around the words "black" and "white" in order to cause division and further their own bitterness and careers, are anathema to me. It makes absolutely no sense to me how someone who claims to be a minister of Jesus Christ, can be so full of vitriol for another. The teachings of Christ embody two unifying principles; love and forgiveness. Sadly, these two principles are sorely lacking in anyone who chooses to use their position of influence as a place from which they may sow division.
dragonrider
6/15/08
8:30 AM
QUOTE(Rural Conservative @ Jun 14 2008, 11:55 PM) [snapback]401249[/snapback]


See, here's the thing people don't seem to really get. The whole idea of "black", "white", etc. is antiquated and entirely innacurate. There is only one "race," that being the human race. The differences that make us unique, be they skin color, culture, or just plain out individuality, should be things that unite us, rather than things that divide us.

I'm rather extensively well read, and the world we see in the writings of Samuel Langhorn Clemens, is not the world of today. The America of the 1960's in which there was great upheaval and an all out culture war unlike any ever seen in this country (or elsewhere for that matter), is not the America of today. Many of those of us who are younger, who were born after the upheaval of that time, do not see people by the color of their skin, but rather by their individual actions. I've been asked before whether I get nervous if I see a "black" man on a city street. Quite honestly, I've never been harmed by anyone who would fit that description, and so I do not see anyone of dark complexion as a threat. On the contrary, I've only ever been robbed, beaten, or had attempts upon my character by persons who would be considered caucasian. I can think of one occasion in college actually, where I had come under a vicious attack by another "white" student. One of the greatest supports I had at that time was a good friend of African-American descent who took time to pray with me and help me through the difficulty of the emotional struggle I was dealing with.

I also see things through the eyes of a Bible scholar (the area in which I have my degree, and no, I'm not a pastor, nor do I wish to be). Through my own study of the scriptures, I have come to the conclusion that since we all share a singular ancestral couple (that being Adam and Eve), we are all related. We are all brothers and sisters, whether our complexion be dark or so fair skinned that we burn to a crisp after a minute in the sun.

The antiquated ideals of men like Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Jeremiah Wright, and anyone else you can name who throw around the words "black" and "white" in order to cause division and further their own bitterness and careers, are anathema to me. It makes absolutely no sense to me how someone who claims to be a minister of Jesus Christ, can be so full of vitriol for another. The teachings of Christ embody two unifying principles; love and forgiveness. Sadly, these two principles are sorely lacking in anyone who chooses to use their position of influence as a place from which they may sow division.
A; Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Jeremiah Wright etal did not create the politics of division that existed in the US for much longer than them. Our country was founded on the politics of division, slave/free, male/female, land holder/endentured servant rich/poor, and gay/straight. One only needs to listen to the subtle and not so subtle racism of faux news to know that these divisions are still present. Our schools are almost as segregated as they were in the 60"s. Blacks continue to have a far greater incarceration rate for drug crimes than whites even though the usage rate is equal. Unemployment for blacks remains almost double for that of whites. Inequality for gays remains almost unchanged in this new century. What has changed is many Whites no longer wish to see the issue and see the division as crossed and of no more importance. The vitriol of the 60's thru the 80's is gone but the division remains.
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