Hillary to bail?

June 2nd, 2008 8:37 pm · 8 comments

Ruh-roh:

The former first lady gave no public hint of quitting the race, and she has said repeatedly she might continue her candidacy even beyond the end of the primaries.

But her husband, former President Clinton, strongly suggested otherwise. “This may be the last day I’m ever involved in a campaign of this kind,” he said as he worked for his wife in South Dakota.

Notes Atrios:

I do admit I’ve long been a bit confused by why Hillary Clinton stayed in the race. To be clear, while I had a problem with directions the campaign went I had no issue with her simply remaining in the race. But I never really saw a good reason for it. Maybe there is one. Maybe we’ll find out what it was!

Or maybe not. The math has long been unfavorable. If there was some magic reason why she decided to keep on keeping on until now, I am indeed curious to hear it.

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  8 comments  Tags: Obama · Hillary · Democratic candidates

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Artie See
6/2/08
9:14 PM
Gil, you never did tell us if you would have supported McCain if Hillary had won the nomination.
gsmart
6/2/08
9:33 PM
QUOTE(Artie See @ Jun 2 2008, 09:14 PM) [snapback]396466[/snapback]
Gil, you never did tell us if you would have supported McCain if Hillary had won the nomination.


Possibly to probably, but hard now to say for sure. It would have proven to me that the Democratic Party was wedded to its past at a time when I think it needs to redfine itself. Had Hillary gotten the nomination it would have solidified the party as her party, the party of the Clintons - still. It would have proven to me that the establishment was going to pick its candidate, that the establishment was not prepared to permit the party to change and evolve as I think it needs to.
lanzate
6/2/08
10:04 PM
QUOTE(Artie See @ Jun 2 2008, 09:14 PM) [snapback]396466[/snapback]

Gil, you never did tell us if you would have supported McCain if Hillary had won the nomination.



He did say he would cast a vote to McCain but I couldn't find when he said it first. This is from a blog he wrote on April 14.

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I have little doubt that Hillary and Obama would govern in virtually the same manner. And so people say to me: Well, you’ve said you’d vote for McCain over Hillary if she wins it, but why? If you think you’d like the way Obama would govern and here you’re admitting that Hillary would probably govern in almost the exact same way, why would you vote for McCain instead?

The answer to that is twofold. First, as I’ve said before I think the conservative movement has hurt this country tremendously, and I think the conservative movement needs to be buried, finally, once and for all. Hillary pumps additional life into it - there’s just no getting around it. And even if a Hillary presidency is able to heal some of the wounds the movement has inflicted upon the country these past seven years at least, by invigorating the movement she makes it possible that the movement will win the next time around; and undo all that she might have been able to accomplish.

There are two ways to drive a stake through the heart of the movement - electing Obama (more on that in a second), or electing John McCain.

Because as noted - John McCain represents a continuation of where we’re at, right this second; a worsening of it, in fact. McCain’s admitted he has no clue when it comes to economics; we know he wants to attack Iran and would stay in Iraq for 100 years. So to elect a McCain in 2008 means the economy is likely to be just as bad or worse for at least the beginning of his presidency - but probably longer; it’s to ensure that the casualty counts from the Mideast as well as the bill for our little adventure will continue to creep upwards.

Four years of a McCain presidency and the Republican Party is destroyed. The conservative movement has no choice but to climb on his bandwagon now, but once things started to go wrong, which they would, the infighting would make what’s happening between Hillary-Obama now look like a picnic. And after eight years of Bush, the broader public is likely to become convinced that Republican rule has been a complete disaster - and reject the party for a generation.

Obama drives a stake through the heart of the movement in another way - first, by denying it its symbolic white whale. But second, because Obama has crossover appeal; a number of honest conservatives have expressed interest in his candidacy
Kate
6/2/08
10:16 PM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24922057/

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Even if she were to press for a change to the Michigan decision, Clinton would still lack the delegates necessary to secure the nomination — a point made by Pennsylvania Gov. Ed Rendell, a Clinton supporter."I don't think we're going to fight this at the convention," Rendell said on CBS's "Face the Nation" Sunday. "Because even were we to win it, unless it's going to change enough delegates for Senator Clinton to get the nomination, then it would be a fight that would have no purpose."


Ed Rendell is soaking up the spotlight. In addition to "Face the Nation" he was interviewed tonight by Campbell Brown on msnbc.

Poor Eddie, the veep spot is eluding him. sad.gif

Also in the above segment of msnbc, it was commented that McCain will have a better opportunity to defeat Obama than he would Clinton. Although if Clinton and Obama team up - well, then it's probably end game.for McCain.
Artie See
6/3/08
7:52 PM
QUOTE(Kate @ Jun 2 2008, 10:16 PM) [snapback]396476[/snapback]
Also in the above segment of msnbc, it was commented that McCain will have a better opportunity to defeat Obama than he would Clinton.
Based on what?
segjt
6/4/08
1:02 AM
QUOTE(lanzate @ Jun 2 2008, 10:04 PM) [snapback]396475[/snapback]



He did say he would cast a vote to McCain but I couldn't find when he said it first. This is from a blog he wrote on April 14.





This is rich, coming from a loon who all but guaranteed a Kerry victory in 04...next.



QUOTE(Artie See @ Jun 3 2008, 07:52 PM) [snapback]396854[/snapback]
Based on what?


the independent vote.....

Artie See
6/4/08
7:36 AM
QUOTE(segjt @ Jun 4 2008, 01:02 AM) [snapback]396909[/snapback]
the independent vote.....
Interesting point.

What percentage of voters are independent in a typical election?
Bigmaclender2
6/4/08
9:24 AM
QUOTE(Artie See @ Jun 4 2008, 07:36 AM) [snapback]396940[/snapback]
Interesting point.

What percentage of voters are independent in a typical election?




None in the primary...........LOL

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