More Fox follies

May 27th, 2008 5:23 pm · 18 comments

I’m tempted to say I don’t get this, but in fact I get it perfectly.

So Jimmy Carter “outs” Israel, saying it’s got about 150 nukes. Well, big surprise; Israel has long been thought to have a relatively large stable of warheads, and if you’re Israel, you’ve got to: it’s called deterrent.

But, of course, we’re currently in the midst of our own secular jihad to prevent Iran, which would aspire to be Israel’s most powerful/influential foe in the region, to get nuke one. Because, as conservatives tell us, the moment Iran gets a single nuke, they’ll immediately lob it at a country that has 150.

Right.

So small wonder, then, that the small brains over at Fox News should be braying that Jimmy Carter shouldn’t be telling these tales out of school, shouldn’t be telling these tales at all:

“The extraordinary thing is a lot of people throughout the Mideast have assumed for a very long time that Israel had [nuclear weapons],” concluded Steve Doocy. “But nobody has ever said officially that they had it. So, here you have got this guy who was once upon a time the president of the United States doing just that. … He has just helped Iran.”

The Fox motto: Ignorance is better.

Just how, pray tell, has Carter “helped” Iran? By calling attention to the fact that Israel, you know, has a pretty massive nuclear arsenal?

What - we’re supposed to lie, or pretend it doesn’t exist? We’re supposed to whistle past that graveyard on our way to the conclusion that Iran, getting its grubby mitts on a single warhead, would be the GREATEST THREAT EVAH!!!

Please.

Conservatives need to stop pretending the whole power game in the Mideast is about morality and accountability if they’re going to take this tack. Why not just admit the obvious: This is about control of the region’s resources and about power, and a rising Iran is a threat to our own power, or could be, and that’s why we want to go in with guns blazing.

But beyond all this, this episode should give you an idea of how Fox News, as an entity, thinks. If, according to Fox News, it’s better that neither you nor anyone else knows about Israel’s arsenal, what else have they concluded that you shouldn’t know about, and actively kept from you?

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  18 comments  Tags: War in Iran · Fox News

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segjt
5/27/08
6:24 PM
QUOTE(Lancaster Online @ May 27 2008, 05:25 PM) [snapback]394131[/snapback]


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Excellent example of smarmy liberal elitism...that's right gil, show the world Isreals military hand...geez...where do these people come from???

Bigby_M
5/27/08
6:57 PM
QUOTE(segjt @ May 27 2008, 06:24 PM) [snapback]394148[/snapback]




Excellent example of smarmy liberal elitism...that's right gil, show the world Isreals military hand...geez...where do these people come from???



Yeah right. Now that they know Israel has 150 nukes they can attack them. laugh.gif

Is there anything you guys get right?

Good Lord.

segjt
5/27/08
7:33 PM
QUOTE(Bigby_M @ May 27 2008, 06:57 PM) [snapback]394155[/snapback]


Yeah right. Now that they know Israel has 150 nukes they can attack them. laugh.gif

Is there anything you guys get right?

Good Lord.





I leave it to you Bugby to not be able to grasp a simple concept...Done here.

Lysol54
5/27/08
7:39 PM
QUOTE(segjt @ May 27 2008, 06:24 PM) [snapback]394148[/snapback]




Excellent example of smarmy liberal elitism...that's right gil, show the world Isreals military hand...geez...where do these people come from???



Ah yes more moronic posts from segjt. Funny you complain about showing Isreals military hand, but they stole the information to make those weapons from us. Oh yeah thats right it was the Repubs that armed them. So its ok when you guys are doing it? I mean last time i checked we wanted no one to have Nukes, so Isreal has them, we might as well bomb them too. Typical Repub BS once again. Segjt ya sound like a broken record, just parroting whatever your little Faux news morons tell you. Keep it up like a good little sheep, i mean lord forbid ya think for yourself, ya might hurt someone if you do that. blink.gif
grieker
5/27/08
7:55 PM
So Jimmy divulging national secrets is ok? I guess no one is held accountable to anyone, for anything any more.
Bigby_M
5/27/08
8:02 PM
QUOTE(segjt @ May 27 2008, 07:33 PM) [snapback]394162[/snapback]




I leave it to you Bugby to not be able to grasp a simple concept...Done here.



Uhhh son, the Iranians didn't attack Israel before. Now that they know for sure that they have 150 nukes do you actually think they would be more inclined to attack them?

Good Lord, whatever you're smoking I want some.

No never mind, I don't like the kind that makes it difficult to think. laugh.gif



QUOTE(grieker @ May 27 2008, 07:55 PM) [snapback]394169[/snapback]
So Jimmy divulging national secrets is ok? I guess no one is held accountable to anyone, for anything any more.


Uhhh hey Grieker, how on earth is saying what everyone knows about Israel divulging our national secrets? Wouldn't those be Israeli secrets?

We still are America and we are not Israel in case you forgot.
segjt
5/27/08
8:09 PM
QUOTE(Bigby_M @ May 27 2008, 08:02 PM) [snapback]394171[/snapback]


Uhhh son, the Iranians didn't attack Israel before. Now that they know for sure that they have 150 nukes do you actually think they would be more inclined to attack them?

Good Lord, whatever you're smoking I want some.

No never mind, I don't like the kind that makes it difficult to think. laugh.gif





Uhhh hey Grieker, how on earth is saying what everyone knows about Israel divulging our national secrets? Wouldn't those be Israeli secrets?

We still are America and we are not Israel in case you forgot.


you have an answer for everything and the more you talk the more stupid you sound...carry on.

grieker
5/27/08
8:17 PM
QUOTE(Bigby_M @ May 27 2008, 08:02 PM) [snapback]394171[/snapback]




Uhhh hey Grieker, how on earth is saying what everyone knows about Israel divulging our national secrets? Wouldn't those be Israeli secrets?

We still are America and we are not Israel in case you forgot.


Okay twitt, that information was entgrusted to him and divulging it IS a matter of national security, however; after reading your previous posts, I don't expect you to have a clue and we should get out of Iraq, Turkey, Egypt, Germany, Italy, Korea, Midway, Japan, England, Spain and allthe other places of the world so we can cower in a corner. Lets do it right away, go Barack.

segjt
5/27/08
8:38 PM
QUOTE(grieker @ May 27 2008, 08:17 PM) [snapback]394176[/snapback]


Okay twitt, that information was entgrusted to him and divulging it IS a matter of national security, however; after reading your previous posts, I don't expect you to have a clue and we should get out of Iraq, Turkey, Egypt, Germany, Italy, Korea, Midway, Japan, England, Spain and allthe other places of the world so we can cower in a corner. Lets do it right away, go Barack.



LOL....not bad...



QUOTE(Lysol54 @ May 27 2008, 07:39 PM) [snapback]394164[/snapback]


Ah yes more moronic posts from segjt. Funny you complain about showing Isreals military hand, but they stole the information to make those weapons from us. Oh yeah thats right it was the Repubs that armed them. So its ok when you guys are doing it? I mean last time i checked we wanted no one to have Nukes, so Isreal has them, we might as well bomb them too. Typical Repub BS once again. Segjt ya sound like a broken record, just parroting whatever your little Faux news morons tell you. Keep it up like a good little sheep, i mean lord forbid ya think for yourself, ya might hurt someone if you do that. blink.gif




Hey Lysol, don't you have someone elses leg to hump you stupid cow???

gsmart
5/27/08
9:13 PM
QUOTE(grieker @ May 27 2008, 08:17 PM) [snapback]394176[/snapback]


Okay twitt, that information was entgrusted to him and divulging it IS a matter of national securityorld so we can cower in a corner. Lets do it right away, go Barack.



No it isn't. As mentioned before, the United States is not Israel. Israel is an ally, but its interests and our interests are not one and the same.
segjt
5/27/08
9:18 PM
QUOTE(gsmart @ May 27 2008, 09:13 PM) [snapback]394194[/snapback]


No it isn't. As mentioned before, the United States is not Israel. Israel is an ally, but its interests and our interests are not one and the same.




There are many, probably the majority, on capitol hill who would disagree with you.

dragonrider
5/27/08
10:47 PM
MAD, mutually assured destruction worked for the US and the USSR why not Iran and Israel.



Why shouldn't we pull out of Germany, Japan and South Korea, they are beating the pants off us in the economy they can surely afford to protect themselves.



Israel should be treated the same as any other ally we need to stop kissing Israels Asp just becuase the Christian Zionist like Hagee want us to.

bigstew
5/27/08
11:07 PM
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MAD, mutually assured destruction worked for the US and the USSR why not Iran and Israel.

Maybe because the president of Iran thinks his destiny to bring the end of the world like he's the 28th majarachi.
Pericles
5/28/08
8:36 AM
QUOTE(Lancaster Online @ May 27 2008, 05:25 PM) [snapback]394131[/snapback]


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Carter adds legitimacy to Iran's justification for nuclear weapons. You missed that Gil.
gsmart
5/28/08
8:51 AM
QUOTE(Pericles @ May 28 2008, 08:36 AM) [snapback]394303[/snapback]


Carter adds legitimacy to Iran's justification for nuclear weapons. You missed that Gil.




Translation: Ignorance is better.

Pericles
5/28/08
9:13 AM
QUOTE(grieker @ May 27 2008, 07:55 PM) [snapback]394169[/snapback]
So Jimmy divulging national secrets is ok? I guess no one is held accountable to anyone, for anything any more.


He took an oath of office which certainly encompasses the fact that he should not divulge classified information.

He's not a representative of the US government and he has no right to interject himself in matters of international diplomacy by outing classified information that he has a duty to keep secret.

Carter does a great job with Habitat for Humanity. He should stick to that and leave foreign policy to the elected government.


QUOTE(gsmart @ May 28 2008, 08:51 AM) [snapback]394313[/snapback]

Translation: Ignorance is better.



You feel the same about all classified government information? Whose's ignorance? Yours? Mine? The Iranians?

The point is simple, and very clear. This is helpful for the Iranians towards their nuclear weapons program. So you either support them or you don't care.

It seems to me that some Iranians are more concerned about the regime developing nuclear weapons than you are Gil.


Calico
5/28/08
9:19 AM
It's nice to have someone tell the truth. So Isreal is not the perfect, blameless entity, surprise.

Are we Americans or Israelis? Whose side are we on?



cyberscribbler
5/28/08
9:44 AM
QUOTE(Pericles @ May 28 2008, 09:13 AM) [snapback]394320[/snapback]
He took an oath of office which certainly encompasses the fact that he should not divulge classified information.
Shouldn't that also apply to the current sec-def? Looks like his party affiliation shields him from scrutiny by faux spews.
QUOTE(Rawstory)
during a 2006 Senate confirmation hearing Secretary of Defense Robert Gates confirmed that Israel was a nuclear power.

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