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Describing that as conservative thought is a cheap shot and you know it.

Should we post some wacky remarks from dailykos and describe them as representing mainstream liberal thought?

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Gil, what is incorrect/inaccurate in this article other than the font may be offensive?

Clearly, high gas prices are all the Democrats' fault.

Note trendline.



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Clearly, high gas prices are all the Democrats' fault.

We did this before, bud - it's the right-wing "smear forward," the manner in which workaday conservative Fox News types get their political information via chain e-mails. There's even a web site devoted to this.

We did this before, bud - it's the right-wing "smear forward," the manner in which workaday conservative Fox News types get their political information via chain e-mails. There's even a web site devoted to this.

You can argue with ideology and I have no problem with that. But why do you always resort to insulting and vilifying conservatives?

Because in this case in particular e-mail is one of the primary means by which what passes for conservative "ideology" is spread. Indeed, we've created an entire media superstructure by which conservatives might get their news and information only from "politically reliable" sources - Fox News and Rush and the like; but the political memes spread by e-mail are among the least-researched yet most pervasive. And no - I don't take what I read as gospel truth, and you don't. But how did the "Obama is a closet Muslim" meme spread, anyway? Can you name some folks who believe it - based on what they read in e-mails? I can. And I bet you can, as well.



I detest the tribalism that runs amok on the right. You can argue that it exists on the left as well and I'll agree; but the whole notion of voting for someone specifically on the basis of their religious faith, or whether they're wearing the flag pin, or whether they seem like the better guest at the backyard barbecue - tell me, which party benefits more from this dumbed-down view of politics? Which party has now found itself reduced to arguing that a focus on policy is inherently elitist? This is Republicanisn elevating know-nothingness to a virtue; a civic necessity.



Do you not see the correlation between the state of affairs in this country, this minute, with this political "philosophy" - where the e-mail "smear forward" is emblematic?



I do not doubt for one second that there is a reasoned, intelligent approach to conservatism; but especially now, on the down side of its bell curve, it has been forced more and more to go with base appeals, appeals to non-reason. That's what I find execrable (sorry, city).

Because in this case in particular e-mail is one of the primary means by which what passes for conservative "ideology" is spread. Indeed, we've created an entire media superstructure by which conservatives might get their news and information only from "politically reliable" sources - Fox News and Rush and the like; but the political memes spread by e-mail are among the least-researched yet most pervasive. And no - I don't take what I read as gospel truth, and you don't. But how did the "Obama is a closet Muslim" meme spread, anyway? Can you name some folks who believe it - based on what they read in e-mails? I can. And I bet you can, as well.



I detest the tribalism that runs amok on the right. You can argue that it exists on the left as well and I'll agree; but the whole notion of voting for someone specifically on the basis of their religious faith, or whether they're wearing the flag pin, or whether they seem like the better guest at the backyard barbecue - tell me, which party benefits more from this dumbed-down view of politics? Which party has now found itself reduced to arguing that a focus on policy is inherently elitist? This is Republicanisn elevating know-nothingness to a virtue; a civic necessity.



Do you not see the correlation between the state of affairs in this country, this minute, with this political "philosophy" - where the e-mail "smear forward" is emblematic?



I do not doubt for one second that there is a reasoned, intelligent approach to conservatism; but especially now, on the down side of its bell curve, it has been forced more and more to go with base appeals, appeals to non-reason. That's what I find execrable (sorry, city).

Because in this case in particular e-mail is one of the primary means by which what passes for conservative "ideology" is spread. Indeed, we've created an entire media superstructure by which conservatives might get their news and information only from "politically reliable" sources - Fox News and Rush and the like; but the political memes spread by e-mail are among the least-researched yet most pervasive. And no - I don't take what I read as gospel truth, and you don't. But how did the "Obama is a closet Muslim" meme spread, anyway? Can you name some folks who believe it - based on what they read in e-mails? I can. And I bet you can, as well.



I detest the tribalism that runs amok on the right. You can argue that it exists on the left as well and I'll agree; but the whole notion of voting for someone specifically on the basis of their religious faith, or whether they're wearing the flag pin, or whether they seem like the better guest at the backyard barbecue - tell me, which party benefits more from this dumbed-down view of politics? Which party has now found itself reduced to arguing that a focus on policy is inherently elitist? This is Republicanisn elevating know-nothingness to a virtue; a civic necessity.



Do you not see the correlation between the state of affairs in this country, this minute, with this political "philosophy" - where the e-mail "smear forward" is emblematic?



I do not doubt for one second that there is a reasoned, intelligent approach to conservatism; but especially now, on the down side of its bell curve, it has been forced more and more to go with base appeals, appeals to non-reason. That's what I find execrable (sorry, city).

Gil, there is some merit to what you are saying here. However, it seems to me that you are essentially preaching the culture of victimhood that the left so loves. The left can't win, because the right controls the debate.

You still have no idea who Barack Obama is!

Gil, what is incorrect/inaccurate in this article other than the font may be offensive?

And you give conservatives no credit for discerning truth from inuendo?

Uhhh he did write two books so anyone who really wants to know can learn all about him.

Assuming they can read.

But no one uses that term - "energy crisis." Why not? Because it's seen as politically weak; evoked Jimmy Carter and the sweater. The Democrats can't use the term because they'll be immediately branded as Carter-esque by the right; McCain can't use the term because the tribalistic right would never permit such weakness at the top of its ticket.



So here we have a crisis we can't even name, nor acknowledge as such. In such an environment, you tell me:



How does the crisis get solved?

Seriously, the only hand wringing we need to do over the energy crisis is making sure the markets become and stay free.

Uhhh he did write two books so anyone who really wants to know can learn all about him.
Assuming they can read.

The majority wasn't big enough to get anything done, it was only big enough not to blank check anything bush wanted.

Oh that's right, and their both narrated by him. I like the one where he so lovingly talks about Louis Farakan with his million-man march and Jerrimiah Wright when he asked if he would preside over the baptism of his problems, I mean children.

Reliable sources tell me that the author of this e-mail is George Bush. The give-a-way is that it looks like it was written in crayon directly on the monitor screen.

That would be like giving a third grader credit for understanding the theory of Relativity and the calculus used to explain it.

The laws that Congress passes don't become laws when they get vetoed. They also don't get passed when they get filabustered by a very, very close minority. The majority wasn't big enough to get anything done, it was only big enough not to blank check anything bush wanted.

It's a mexican standoff, neither side can get anything done because they oppose one another.

Wow. Is that how it works in Washington?

Now can you tell everyone which particular proposed laws pertaining to energy policy, the price of gasoline, or economic incentives were vetoed by the president or are being fillibustered by Republicans in the senate?

Oh that's right, and their both narrated by him. I like the one where he so lovingly talks about Louis Farakan with his million-man march and Jerrimiah Wright when he asked if he would preside over the baptism of his problems, I mean children.

When I look at the graph I see two obvious peaks one during the Iraq/Iran war and the second during the US/Iraq war. Its seems obvious that the trend indicates that war in a major oil exporter creates oil shortages and astronomical rises in price of oil. It would seem that an intelligent president like Bush would have forseen that correlation.

Nothing like making a huge over generalization to try and prove your point. Ya learned that from Rush didn't ya? You Repubs always use the same tricks.

Do you even know what the word generalzation means?