Running dry

January 24th, 2008 2:11 pm · 7 comments

So I’m down talking to Bob Dano yesterday, owner of Engleside Beverage Mart, about this and that, and he raises a point I hadn’t ever considered - but one I find absolutely stunning.

Did you know, and I didn’t, that there is no state liquor store anywhere between the North Queen street store and the Maryland line?

Nothing at Kendig Square or elsewhere in Willow Street; the store that was in Quarryville is closed. Musser’s Market at the Buck wanted to incorporate a liquor store a few years back, but that was (predictably) torpedoed. Basically, you live in the southern end and you want a bottle of vino, you either drive up to Manor Shopping Center or you hop down into Maryland.

But I’m sure most consumers keep their tax dollars here in Pennsylvania. Right.

This came up in the context of, Dano owns the property next door to his distributor and wants to develop it commercially, and thinks it would be a great place for a liquor store. Which it might be, though a mere two miles or so from the South Queen Street store doesn’t make it a whole lot more accessible for folks who live in, say, Martic Township.

And of course I’m sure there are those who are opposed to TEH DREADED LIKKER working its evil tentacles into the peaceful southern end community. Still, the folks at Willow Valley - who move here from New York and Connecticut and New Jersey and like their Manhattans or Martinis - we’re making them drive to Manor Shopping Center? How does this make any sense from a fiscal standpoint?

I know that at one time the PLCB was looking for a site in southern Lancaster County; dropped the PR person a note to find out if it still is. It’s just amazing to me that if you live in Quarryville or Holtwood - you gotta drive all the way into town for a simple bottle of wine. I know the state store system is supposed to control the sale of alcohol. But this is just ridiculous.

Update: And ridiculous it shall stay.

Nick Hays, spokesman for the Pennsylvania Liquor Control Board, says that there have been two attempts in recent years to find a spot in southern Lancaster County for a liquor store, but both have been shot down - by referendum in Drumore Township (Musser’s Markets) and a second proposal back in the late ’90s to bring one to Kendig Square, a natural choice but one opposed by local residents; and now the PLCB has more or less given up, there will be no liquor stores in the southern end for the foreseeable future.

Interestingly, Hays also said the state store system is downsizing; 10 stores were closed last year, a bunch more closed already this year, down to 623 stores statewide, as “underperforming” stores are shuttered. Which in one respect is a good strategy, if a store is losing money, why keep it open; at the same time, though, if or when this results in communities where you can’t do something as simple as get a bottle of wine for dinner, how does this in any way benefit Pennsylvania consumers on the whole? Or isn’t it supposed to be about that?

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charlie_crystle
1/24/08
11:11 PM
QUOTE(Lancaster Online @ Jan 24 2008, 02:15 PM) [snapback]351265[/snapback]


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this is one of those easy solutions: break up the state store system and allow the market to work. there's all kinds of opportunity around wine stores, liquor stores, etc, which, if well-regulated, would increase tax revenue to the state, choices for consumers, and business for, er, business.



silly state sometimes.

jetscott
1/24/08
11:25 PM
at the same time, his current beer business is for sale
usedmeat
1/24/08
11:36 PM
Never mind the miracle of the wedding feast said it all about the consumption of wine. I had some fundamental loon try to tell me it was really grape juice.
gsmart
1/25/08
9:19 AM
QUOTE(charlie_crystle @ Jan 25 2008, 12:11 AM) [snapback]351410[/snapback]




this is one of those easy solutions: break up the state store system and allow the market to work. there's all kinds of opportunity around wine stores, liquor stores, etc, which, if well-regulated, would increase tax revenue to the state, choices for consumers, and business for, er, business.





Absolutely, but try this tends not to play in Peoria, or Providence Township.



I think it does happen at some point, though. The alcohol industry in Pennsylvania is one of the last, great regulated industries in this state, at least; the chains have slowly been coming off, and that's destined to continue.



Something I heard last week, from an authoritative source though I've not cross-checked it so take it with a shaker of salt, but there are apparently more changes coming down the pike this year for the beer industry. Distributors may be permitted to sell 18-packs; bars would then be permitted to sell 3 six-packs at a time, rather than just 2. All part and parcel of the (very) gradual dismantling of the draconian rules we still live by.

charlie_crystle
1/26/08
4:27 PM
QUOTE(gsmart @ Jan 25 2008, 10:19 AM) [snapback]351504[/snapback]




Absolutely, but try this tends not to play in Peoria, or Providence Township.



I think it does happen at some point, though. The alcohol industry in Pennsylvania is one of the last, great regulated industries in this state, at least; the chains have slowly been coming off, and that's destined to continue.



Something I heard last week, from an authoritative source though I've not cross-checked it so take it with a shaker of salt, but there are apparently more changes coming down the pike this year for the beer industry. Distributors may be permitted to sell 18-packs; bars would then be permitted to sell 3 six-packs at a time, rather than just 2. All part and parcel of the (very) gradual dismantling of the draconian rules we still live by.





Very simple solution that will boost the economy and keep the state coffers doing well:
  • completely dismantle the state store system, putting the inventory and sites up for auction
  • tax the sale of alcohol
  • sell liquor store licenses, wine licenses, and beer sales licenses


BAG-17
1/26/08
5:42 PM
Don't some private groups own liq. lic. for the sole purpose to keep their area dry? I understand that the Amish own quite a few for that reason. Or is that one of those urban myths that keeps going around?
BAG-17
1/26/08
6:06 PM
QUOTE(usedmeat @ Jan 24 2008, 11:36 PM) [snapback]351416[/snapback]

Never mind the miracle of the wedding feast said it all about the consumption of wine. I had some fundamental loon try to tell me it was really grape juice.
The host complimented them on bringing out the "Good Stuff" pretty sure he wasn't praising some kiddie drink!! laugh.gif
1 Corinthians 11:22
Do you not have houses to eat and drink in?
Was written by Paul to the Corinthians believers b/c they were getting drunk at communion. huh.gif They did that on grape juice? blink.gif
Doesn't sound like prohibition to me, but do your drinking at home if you're gonna indulge too much!
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