Jailing traitors
December 22nd, 2007 5:42 pm · 5 comments
Story running in the NYT tomorrow about how J. Edgar Hoover, on the eve of the Korean War, wanted Truman to suspend Habeus Corpus and imprison some 12,000 Americans he suspected of disloyalty:
Hoover wanted President Harry S. Truman to proclaim the mass arrests necessary to “protect the country against treason, espionage and sabotage.” The F.B.I would “apprehend all individuals potentially dangerous” to national security, Hoover’s proposal said. The arrests would be carried out under “a master warrant attached to a list of names” provided by the bureau.
The names were part of an index that Hoover had been compiling for years. “The index now contains approximately twelve thousand individuals, of which approximately ninety-seven per cent are citizens of the United States,” he wrote.
“In order to make effective these apprehensions, the proclamation suspends the Writ of Habeas Corpus,” it said.
To his great credit, Truman never signed off on the damned thing. But this is obviously far worse that what’s happening now with the “unlawful combatants” at Gitmo - this would have been American citzizens tossed into the hoosegow, given the “right” to an eventual hearing though under Hoover’s plans those hearings would not be bound by rules of evidence.
This is not a partisan thing; this authoritarian overreaction crosses party lines, and as the NYT notes, the only real modern precedent for this would have been the Palmer Raids - done under a Democratic, progressive president, Woodrow Wilson (or what was left of him, by that point.)
It’s that impulse, that overreaction that must be resisted - whichever side of the aisle it comes from.
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There are currently 5 comments on this blog postView Topic | Comment on this blogWhirlwind 12/25/07 11:05 PM | QUOTE(Lancaster Online @ Dec 22 2007, 04:45 PM) [snapback]344448[/snapback]
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Dies, the House UnAmerican Activities Commission, Joe McCarthy, were not all wrong. There were red and pink subversives throughout our government offices, which was part of what brought on Korea as a problem. Support for the communists in China at the end of WWII. While allied with Stalin, there was no prohibition against communist party membership by fed employees. Wasn't even asked.
Congress thwarted any attempts to root out the communists in fed gov't. offices, repeatedly. The FBI kept providing pertinent intelligence, just to see it discarded or filed without action.
Ann Coulter's new book "Treason" covers this topic. As I have mentioned previously, the "Venona Transcripts" vindicate McCarthy, and tell the bulk of this tale. Please look them up.
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citydweller 12/25/07 11:23 PM | mAnn Coulter - now there's a brand that thinking people everywhere associate with reliability, trust and quality..... NOOOT! 
Please tell us you can do better than that, Whirly. |
justplainjoe 12/26/07 5:56 AM | so it's okay to suspend rights for those who are "pink" whatever that means, perhaps left leaning, but not okay to do same for terror suspects?
hoover may have been a fascist and a disgrace but he did look great in a little black cocktail dress.
yeah city, anne coulter there is a real intellect.LOL
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usedmeat 12/26/07 6:18 AM | QUOTE yeah city, anne coulter there is a real intellect.LOL
My late mother always said,"You are known by the company you keep" That the republican party has spokespeople like Rush Limbaugh, Bill O'Riely, Sean Hannity, Michael Savage, and Ann Coulter speaks volumes of their moral bankruptcy.
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Whirlwind 12/28/07 6:20 PM | The followingis part of a review of the book "Blacklisted By History" by M.Stanton Evans posted at Amazon.com. About halfway through. Also have read a paperback by the name of "The Story of General George Marshall" by Joe McCarthy. Cross-referencing the two tells the story. The former is the book Coulter credits with her revelation, if I remember correctly.
This is an informative, well documented and well written book that is LONG overdue. It is eminently readable for such a long tome and manages to hold the reader's attention from the very start where Evans describes his efforts to obtain records from the National Archives, the Senate, local newspapers in Wheeling, West Virginia as well as a whole assortment of primary sources necessary to examine the history of this period. As quickly becomes evident: most of the germane records of great importance during the McCarthy era have gone missing leading us into an authoritative examination of the McCarthy period with a main emphasis being finding primary sources on McCarthy, his cases and the Cold War in general. Evans book is an attempt to discover the real story of Joe McCarthy removing him from the mists of fable and recycled error.
From the outset we need to get one thing straight - Joe McCarthy was a patriot. A patriot who was willing to speak truth to power, and for that Joe McCarthy was destroyed by the left. He has been ruthlessly vilified for sixty years, his name synonymous with evil and treachery. McCarthy gave up his reputation, and arguably his life, as the price for speaking the truth. And seldom is so high a price exacted for honesty integrity and the willingness to speak the truth. This book provides exhaustive documentation proving once and for all that McCarthy was correct, more, that McCarthy was an American patriot.
40 of 46 reviews give the "Blacklisted" book 5 stars.
http://www.amazon.com/Blacklisted-History-...98883097&sr=8-1
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