When Iraq attacked the WTC

December 12th, 2007 2:19 pm · 21 comments

Gee, I don’t remember that. But the kids do:

I have now received three (3) student papers that discuss Iraq’s attack on the Twin Towers on 9/11. All three papers mention it as an aside to another point. I’ve had two papers on the virtue of forgiveness that argue that if we had just forgiven Iraq for the 9/11 attacks, we wouldn’t be at war right now. I just read a paper on the problem of evil which asked why God allowed “the Iraq’s” to attack us on 9/11.

The thing that upsets me most here is that the the students don’t just believe that that Iraq was behind 9/11. This is a big fact in their minds, that leaps out at them, whenever they think about the state of the world.

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  21 comments  Tags: 9/11 · War in Iraq

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citydweller
12/12/07
8:40 PM
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Aahhhh, I just love it when a plan comes together!

- Dick Cheyney
usedmeat
12/13/07
11:08 AM
Where's the Liburl Media to throw a monkeywrench into the republican juggernaut of war? Or something like that, anyway.
Hope
12/13/07
11:54 AM
Why isn't the teacher setting the record straight and actually TEACHING the children?
mam0412
12/13/07
12:45 PM
The saddest thing is, these kids parents are probably the ones teaching them Iraq attacked us.
usedmeat
12/14/07
12:10 AM
The founding fathers knew that an informed citizenry was necessary for the government to work. They never forsaw that the Old Media would shamelessly pander to one political party to the detriment of America.
Look at how the New York Times and the Washington Post acted as stenographers to the administration's lies about Iraq.
Some of those parents might be head up their exhaust-port republicans but the majority are ingnorant on how to use the internet to get to the truth.
Lets face it Bush goes on vacation, setting a record in his first 7 months in office, and allows 911 to happen. The Old Media gives him a pass. Then less than 4 years later Katrina catches Homeland Security and FEMA off guard and the only one to complain was CNN's Anderson Cooper. If this had happened under Bill Clinton's tenure in the White House the Old Media would be demanding the fireing squad.
With the republicans and the Old Media it's one lies and the other swears to it.
LancCitizen
12/14/07
12:16 AM
Won't it be nice when the propoganda machine corrects all these errors and explains to the American public that it wasn't Iraq that attacked the WTC, but instead, it was Iran so we can go to war with them?

I'm beginning to wonder if it was even Al-Queda that attacked (actually, I've questioned that for a while now). Bush has milked this cow for 6 years now, how much milk does she have left in her?



There's nothing funnier than when faux and the GOP start lamenting the "liberal media", you know, the one that doesn't exist. If the media really were "Liberal", we wouldn't have students writing papers about Iraq attacking the WTC and we would have impeached bush and cheney both 5 years ago.



Fox-first in comedy, you can tell by their "newscasts".



Stupidity drives me nuts more than any amount of lying, stealing, or any other vice that could be listed. And of course, we'll have more and more stupidity as time goes on because the stupid are those who are incapable of understanding birth control or child rearing and continue to increase their own numbers at an exponential rate.



It's a good thing the space race isn't going on right now instead of years ago or "we would never have launched sputnik, beating the soviets into space" sarcasm.gif



***FOR THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW ANY BETTER, THE SOVIETS LAUNCHED SPUTNIK AND BEAT US. WE, HOWEVER, DID MAKE THE FIRST MOON LANDING (at least I believe the reports that we did). PLEASE, FIGHT STUPIDITY, LEARN SOMETHING NEW TODAY***



oh, and the "Cold War" had NOTHING to do with global warming or with weather/climate at all, "cold" was not referring to temperature.

Reagan did not tear down the Berlin Wall with his bare hands and actually had little to do with it other than a sound bite that tries to give him credit for something he didn't do.

The first "gulf war" was very short, merely a military operation and we left very quickly.

Saddam was once our ally.

Bush and his father's administration both worked with Bin Laden before the 9/11 attack that Bin Laden claimed responsibility for. Bin Laden and Saddam are NOT the same person nor are they related in any way whatsoever. They also did not work together or have a political alliance. Saddam actually kept Al-Queda OUT of Iraq while he was in power. He was abusive and a brutal dictator, but, truthfully, in comparison to bush, was not nearly what he was portrayed to be in order to get the American public to accept going to war with Iraq.

Individual men are smart, they can reason, they can comprehend, but mankind, in a group, are stupid, easily controlled animals that can be led to believe anything.



justplainjoe
12/14/07
5:32 AM
QUOTE(LancCitizen @ Dec 14 2007, 01:16 AM) [snapback]342512[/snapback]



Saddam was once our ally.





and apparently bought cluster bombs imported from "good" old lancaster county .





http://www.jonathanpollard.org/1991/091391.htm





Somehow, though, Cardoen arranged for the transfer of cluster bomb technology to Chile, and set up his own factory to build them. As Nightline reported earlier, that technology came from ISC, International Signal and Control, of Lancaster, Pennsylvania. In October of 1984, ISC and Cardoen signed an agreement, in effect carving up the world's cluster bomb market. Cardoen would sell to all those countries with which ISC was prevented, under U.S. law, from doing business. Could all this have gone on without the knowledge of the U.S. government? Senior Israeli officials have told Nightline that in the 1980s they were informed directly by the U.S. government that Carlos Cardoen was producing cluster bombs, using U.S. technology, and that these were being shipped to Iraq. Furthermore, several ISC executives claim a longstanding relationship with U.S. intelligence.

hahaha
12/14/07
6:57 AM
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an owner with a short fuse that likes to sit in the dark at odd hours of the night


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stupidity drives me nuts


hmmmmm..........
oh geez
12/14/07
7:45 AM
Maybe the schools are hiring morons to teach these kids.



Now Gil, is this where you tell us it was a conspiracy and the US blew up the towers?

cyberscribbler
12/14/07
8:56 AM
I'm getting this image in my head of Bush 43 playing John Belushi in Animal House.

Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

When the going get tough....

Am sure there's plenty of adults who still think Iraq had something to do with 9/11.

QUOTE(usedmeat)
The founding fathers knew that an informed citizenry was necessary for the government to work.
They also made mention of habeus corpus, due process, etc. that have fallen into disfavor by the Bush admin. because they're an impediment.

Godwin's alert:

Last of all - some of the same tactics were used by Hitler to whip up support for the next military campaign - things like
"The're killing Germans in Poland, we must invade & fight them there, so we don't have to here"



WinstonTheLastHuman
12/14/07
9:42 AM
QUOTE(LancCitizen @ Dec 14 2007, 01:16 AM) [snapback]342512[/snapback]





Stupidity drives me nuts more than any amount of lying, stealing, or any other vice that could be listed.



Let me get this straight: you are more bothered by W’s inability to pronounce nuclear than his reasons for wanting to use it?

Now that is funny.
Shawn
12/14/07
10:26 AM
QUOTE(WinstonTheLastHuman @ Dec 14 2007, 09:42 AM) [snapback]342584[/snapback]


Let me get this straight: you are more bothered by W's inability to pronounce nuclear than his reasons for wanting to use it?

Now that is funny.




They both represent stupidity on a grand scale. The first is just embarrassing on many different levels. The second is the kind of stupidity that gets people killed.



Later...Shawn

bigstew
12/14/07
5:57 PM
Do any of you actually know someone that thinks Iraq was behind 9/11?
Nativeson
12/14/07
7:26 PM
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And of course, we'll have more and more stupidity as time goes on because the stupid are those who are incapable of understanding birth control or child rearing and continue to increase their own numbers at an exponential rate.




Not only that, they also emigrate from other countries. My ancesters got out of Germany seven generations ago on a government program which provided free passage to another country because they had too much poor, uneducated rabble in parts of Germany. But now the population is really smart and knows how to use birth control. The new government program? They pay people money to make and have babies. What a country!



Hopefully you like men, women and children enough that when a gang's mass murdering them you let yourself go and celebrate the overthrow of repressive governments. There's proof at the pump that we have SOME of our priorities right. We "overthrew" an oil rich country and still pay through the nose for gas.

LancCitizen
12/15/07
1:54 PM
QUOTE(hahaha @ Dec 14 2007, 07:57 AM) [snapback]342542[/snapback]




hmmmmm..........




That's not stupidity, it's neurosis, they're different.



QUOTE(justplainjoe @ Dec 14 2007, 06:32 AM) [snapback]342533[/snapback]


and apparently bought cluster bombs imported from "good" old lancaster county .
http://www.jonathanpollard.org/1991/091391.htm

Somehow, though, Cardoen arranged for the transfer of cluster bomb technology to Chile, and set up his own factory to build them. As Nightline reported earlier, that technology came from ISC, International Signal and Control, of Lancaster, Pennsylvania. In October of 1984, ISC and Cardoen signed an agreement, in effect carving up the world's cluster bomb market. Cardoen would sell to all those countries with which ISC was prevented, under U.S. law, from doing business. Could all this have gone on without the knowledge of the U.S. government? Senior Israeli officials have told Nightline that in the 1980s they were informed directly by the U.S. government that Carlos Cardoen was producing cluster bombs, using U.S. technology, and that these were being shipped to Iraq. Furthermore, several ISC executives claim a longstanding relationship with U.S. intelligence.





wow, I didn't know that one.

Dang.

Tell me we're all going to wake up some day and all of this will have been a dream, a terrible, terrible dream.

It worked on "Dallas".



usedmeat
12/15/07
8:53 PM
http://www.csmonitor.com/2003/0314/p02s01-woiq.htm
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WASHINGTON
- In his prime-time press conference last week, which focused almost solely on Iraq, President Bush mentioned Sept. 11 eight times. He referred to Saddam Hussein many more times than that, often in the same breath with Sept. 11. Bush never pinned blame for the attacks directly on the Iraqi president. Still, the overall effect was to reinforce an impression that persists among much of the American public: that the Iraqi dictator did play a direct role in the attacks. A New York Times/CBS poll this week shows that 45 percent of Americans believe Mr. Hussein was "personally involved" in Sept. 11, about the same figure as a month ago.

Sources knowledgeable about US intelligence say there is no evidence that Hussein played a role in the Sept. 11 attacks, nor that he has been or is currently aiding Al Qaeda. Yet the White House appears to be encouraging this false impression, as it seeks to maintain American support for a possible war against Iraq and demonstrate seriousness of purpose to Hussein's regime.

"The administration has succeeded in creating a sense that there is some connection [between Sept. 11 and Saddam Hussein]," says Steven Kull, director of the Program on International Policy Attitudes (PIPA) at the University of Maryland.

The numbersPolling data show that right after Sept. 11, 2001, when Americans were asked open-ended questions about who was behind the attacks, only 3 percent mentioned Iraq or Hussein. But by January of this year, attitudes had been transformed. In a Knight Ridder poll, 44 percent of Americans reported that either "most" or "some" of the Sept. 11 hijackers were Iraqi citizens. The answer is zero.


George Bush: Mission Accomplished.
hahaha
12/16/07
3:16 PM
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That's not stupidity, it's neurosis, they're different.

A crazy would think so....
Robotspyder
12/16/07
5:25 PM
The brainwashing IS complete! sad.gif
bigstew
12/16/07
5:55 PM
QUOTE(usedmeat @ Dec 15 2007, 08:53 PM) [snapback]342881[/snapback]
http://www.csmonitor.com/2003/0314/p02s01-woiq.htm


George Bush: Mission Accomplished.


45%? Who are these people? How can 45% believe this, when I don't know a single person who thinks that? They must be asking new yorkers, who I thought were mostly liberal.

So what does that say?

usedmeat
12/16/07
10:39 PM
But didn't your friends support Bush's murder spree?
bigstew
12/17/07
7:29 AM
QUOTE(usedmeat @ Dec 16 2007, 10:39 PM) [snapback]343055[/snapback]
But didn't your friends support Bush's murder spree?
If you're responding to me, your avoiding the question. You are trying to invalidate support for the war by linking it to a misconception. A misconception blown out of proportion to the tune of 45% of people polled. That's nearly half of all people.

A complete falsehood that is either an outright lie or proof of the utter and total failure of liberals and their leaders to get their message or their version of the truth out there.

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