Errant inerrancy

October 24th, 2007 8:16 pm · 7 comments

Sullivan posts an e-mail from an evangelical reader who recently had a friend “come out” to him. The writer straddles the line, or tries to, in saying that he believes homosexuality is wrong, a sin, but that this won’t make him abandon his friend; and indeed, when the writer’s “Christianist” sister demanded to know if he immediately told his friend that homosexuality was wrong, the writer stood up to her.

But it’s fascinating in that the writer obviously agonizes over how “the media” - and really, popular culture as a whole - defines his core beliefs, in Biblical inerrancy, as “hate.” It’s obviously not true in this case, though at the same time the writer notes that eventually he’s going to have to tell his friend point-blank that he believes homosexuality is wrong.

We’ve all got to do what we’ve got to do. But here’s the crux of why I could never, under any circumstances, subscribe to the notion of Biblical inerrancy.

I do not believe, can not believe, that every line in the Bible, every thought, every preposition, was divinely inspired. I believe the book was written by humans - susceptible to human frailties and predjudices no matter how well-intentioned they may have been, influenced by the times in which they lived. I believe there are basic values that do not change and should not change; but as history and as science reveal to us so much more than what ever could have been known then, I believe there are views that should change, that in fact must change.

I’ve always wondered how evangelicals might react were science to prove, definitively, that homosexuality is genetic. Would that change their minds? If they really do believe in Biblical inerrancy, how could it? They would be left to argue that it is science that is somehow wrong. They want to believe even now that homosexuality is a moral choice; that those who come out to either their friends or even themselves have specifically chosen a sybaritic lifestyle, have specifically chosen hedonistic pleasure over what is right.

They have to believe that. If you start with Biblical inerrancy, everything has to fit the mold; you’ve got the conclusion to which you must come, you need only devise the “logic” that gets you there.

It’s just kind of sad, I think. I think I understand, more than many can ever know, how people come to believe this, how they so achingly want to believe in this. I just don’t think you can believe in it; or rather, if you do believe in it, ultimately you’re going to be stuck with the pretzel logic of hating the homosexuality - but somehow trying to assure yourself that the homosexual friend is OK.

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eaglerick
10/24/07
8:47 PM
I do not believe, can not believe, that every line in the Bible, every thought, every preposition, was divinely inspired. I believe the book was written by humans - susceptible to human frailties and predjudices no matter how well-intentioned they may have been, influenced by the times in which they lived. I believe there are basic values that do not change and should not change; but as history and as science reveal to us so much more than what ever could have been known then, I believe there are views that should change, that in fact must change.



The authority of Science and Reason versus the Authority of Scripture would more accurately reflect your topic. You base your argument on evidence that does not exist now, and you hope will exist in the future in order to substantiate your position.



I'll rest comfortably on the Authority of Scripture. It is an authority which helps to sort out what factors in a situation determine my attitudes and actions. In the given example, I do not have to agree with homosexuality, in fact I can believe that it is sin - and still love the person. Often, this allows me to develop lasting relationships with people that are trapped in all manners of "sin", and in some cases have committed the most heinous "sins" imaginable. The authority that I give Scriptuer in my life dictates my loving response in each and every situation.



citydweller
10/25/07
1:44 AM
QUOTE(eaglerick @ Oct 24 2007, 08:47 PM) [snapback]331644[/snapback]

Often, this allows me to develop lasting relationships with people that are trapped in all manners of "sin", and in some cases have committed the most heinous "sins" imaginable.


Well congratulations. You're officially about as rare as hen's teeth around here. That is, if you really mean it and live your life as you say. And if you do, I would ask that you preach your position actively to every evangelist you meet wink.gif More of those "lasting relationships" could make the world a better place.
Bigmaclender2
12/31/07
7:04 AM
I believe that I was born the way you speak of. I had a crush as early as Kindergarten. My brother is my only living relative and he won't talk to me until I get help for my "psychiatric illness". And you wonder why Republicans leave a bad taste in my mouth. "Judge Not Lest Ye Be Judged??? Am I the only one that has read THIS in the Bible? Growing up Catholic has been quite an education. I do think that it's messed up that a priest can sodomize a boy on Friday, go to confession on Saturday and give Communion on Sunday and I can't even walk through the doors because I am gay. What's wrong with this world that we live in? Didn't God say to "Love everyone as I have loved you"? Did he say love everyone that has the same beliefs as you? Someone please tell me that chapter and verse as I haven't found it yet. A lot of the verses where they think they are referring to homosexuality is actually referring to sodomy which is totally different. Although Lancaster does have one of the highest rates of sodomy in the country. Hmm.....Wow, makes you wonder how many hipocrites are really walking the streets..............

Hope
12/31/07
8:30 AM
QUOTE(Bigmaclender2 @ Dec 31 2007, 07:04 AM) [snapback]345894[/snapback]

lot of the verses where they think they are referring to homosexuality is actually referring to sodomy which is totally different.


What do you see as the difference? Do you see homosexuality as having erotic feelings for someone of the same gender and sodomy as then acting upon those feelings?
eaglerick
12/31/07
10:48 AM
2 things:

1) Jesus's teaching in Matthew 7:1-5 has more to do with our judging others in the same way we judge ourselves (you know, don't condemn someone else when I am unwilling to address the "sin" in my own life). By removing the sin or plank in my own eye I will be able to judge with clarity and compassion.



2) When the church starts addressing all issues of sexual immorality within the ranks, maybe we have authority in communicating outside the church. Holiness within leads to light without.



Just my thoughts.

bigstew
12/31/07
3:41 PM
QUOTE(Bigmaclender2 @ Dec 31 2007, 07:04 AM) [snapback]345894[/snapback]
I believe that I was born the way you speak of. I had a crush as early as Kindergarten. My brother is my only living relative and he won't talk to me until I get help for my "psychiatric illness". And you wonder why Republicans leave a bad taste in my mouth. "Judge Not Lest Ye Be Judged??? Am I the only one that has read THIS in the Bible? Growing up Catholic has been quite an education. I do think that it's messed up that a priest can sodomize a boy on Friday, go to confession on Saturday and give Communion on Sunday and I can't even walk through the doors because I am gay. What's wrong with this world that we live in? Didn't God say to "Love everyone as I have loved you"? Did he say love everyone that has the same beliefs as you? Someone please tell me that chapter and verse as I haven't found it yet. A lot of the verses where they think they are referring to homosexuality is actually referring to sodomy which is totally different. Although Lancaster does have one of the highest rates of sodomy in the country. Hmm.....Wow, makes you wonder how many hipocrites are really walking the streets..............

Forgive your brother, make yourself happy, and pray for forgiveness for any sins you may make in your life. God forgives all, if you take jesus as your lord and saviour.

Now go out and be happy.(Guilt is a self imposed sickness) wink.gif

Bigmaclender2
12/31/07
9:25 PM
There is a difference between sodomy and homosexuality. Use your dictionary-I did-lol. I just find it hard to believe that God would create me to have feelings since birth one way and expect me to be miserable all the rest of my days. I wish you could understand all that I have gone through in my quest to understand it all. I do accept it. I don't lie, cheat, steal or harm anyone in any way, I tithe 10% to my church weekly (even if I'm not there) and my goal in life is to be "Jesus with skin on". So, aside from the fact that I can only trust another woman, if he judges me solely on that fact, then I guess I was wrong about my God....I don't think that I am. It is only I that has to answer to my Lord and Saviour....no one else. I think more people should worry about their own redemption first before focusing on anyone elses redemption. Just a thought to consider...............

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