Bill-O’s comments about his black dinner last week getting some mainstream press attention. As Atrios notes, “I love how when someone provides the full context of O’Reilly’s remarks, including audio and transcript, it’s a “hatchet job.”
Update: And it seems Bill-O called CNN and “screamed at the top of his lungs for a very long time.”
But screaming is what he does…
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Tags: Bill O'Reilly · Wingers
| cyberscribbler 10/1/07 2:18 PM | Lethal ignorance about black people [youtube]X4fWGgOba-I&NR=1[/youtube] |
| Pericles 10/1/07 3:55 PM | QUOTE(cyberscribbler @ Oct 1 2007, 02:18 PM) [snapback]325263[/snapback] Lethal ignorance about black people Ignorance about Blacks? That appears to be the case. If he's learning something about Black culture, isn't that good? How is it racist? |
| cyberscribbler 10/1/07 4:00 PM | QUOTE(Pericles @ Oct 1 2007, 03:55 PM) [snapback]325288[/snapback] If he's learning something about Black culture, isn't that good? It speaks volumes about the state of race relations when O'Reilly thinks a restaurant in Harlem would be so dramatically different.As Maher said, "What was he expecting, dinner at the Apollo?"  Dr. Dyson's comments were worth viewing, imho. that's all. BTW, I had dinner at Annie Bailey's friday night. Was surprised how civilized the Irish people there acted.  |
| Pericles 10/1/07 4:06 PM | QUOTE(cyberscribbler @ Oct 1 2007, 04:00 PM) [snapback]325290[/snapback] It speaks volumes about the state of race relations when O'Reilly thinks a restaurant in Harlem would be so dramatically different. Only if O'Reilly speaks for the masses, which he does not. He obviously doesn't speak for you and he certainly doesn't speak for me either. So in the end, it speaks only about Bill O"Reilly. |
| justplainjoe 10/1/07 4:11 PM | QUOTE(Pericles @ Oct 1 2007, 03:55 PM) [snapback]325288[/snapback] If he's learning something about Black culture...... after 55 years ??? |
| palmer 10/1/07 4:28 PM | It IS a hatchet job. And, it IS taken out of context. It is soundbites, that alone have a different suggestion. Again, I am not a fan of O'Reilly, but, I am even less of a fan of media that deliberately hacks and chops comments and statements to serve an agenda. This is no different than when Gore was 'credited' with inventing the Internet. |
| Merch 10/1/07 4:46 PM | White Rednecks, now that is a general statement! |
| ArtVandolay 10/1/07 5:15 PM | QUOTE(palmer @ Oct 1 2007, 04:28 PM) [snapback]325299[/snapback] It IS a hatchet job. And, it IS taken out of context. It is soundbites, that alone have a different suggestion. Again, I am not a fan of O'Reilly, but, I am even less of a fan of media that deliberately hacks and chops comments and statements to serve an agenda. This is no different than when Gore was 'credited' with inventing the Internet. Happy Negro: O'Reilly is not my hero, but Palmer is right. As soon as the low rating media get any wind of O'reilly or Rush saying anything out of contet that could be used against them, they are all over it. Media Matters is about as slimy as you can get. Bet that PiggySoros is supporting that site as well. So, Juan Williams is called Happy Negro on CNN, and no one cares! Just because he affirmed the fact that any White commentator who berings up race is villified. From Fox News website: The Media Matters fraud and the press reaction to it had nothing to do with race. It had to do with money and far-left ideology. If it were about race, every news agency in the country would now be condemning CNN for allowing a smear merchant to call Juan Williams a "happy Negro" twice on the air. Happy Negro is another term for "Uncle Tom," a vicious racial slur. NBC News also allowed attacks on Williams by the usual character assassins working for them. Both CNN and NBC will never recover from their shameful conduct. Does it surprise you that not one media operation condemned CNN for their racial attacks on Juan? Surely, they know what happened. But we can find no mention of it in the American press. Dishonest, hypocritical, disgraceful. Now the real story is that FOX News Channel has projected to make many millions more next year than MSNBC, which is complete ratings disaster. Last night on primetime, it came in dead last behind even "Headline News." CNN's also in complete collapse. Paula Zahn has been let go. Anderson Cooper cut back an hour. Their morning program gets hammered by "FOX and Friends." And FOX beats them 3 to 1 in primetime. At 8:00 p.m. I beat them 6 to 1. Now FOX News has literally destroyed CNN. And now they are indeed desperate. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,298727,00.html same old story - libs can say what they want, but a conservative is a racist even for bringing up the subject. Why is it that Fox in fact kills other news outlets in terms of viewers? Keith Olbermann - what a joke. He made an !profanity! out if himself last night Sunday night Football. His "worst" features is a equal to a facebook rant by a teen girl. I can't wait till he is featured on Southpark. |
| justplainjoe 10/1/07 5:57 PM | why not just play the whole tape so we can decide once and for all if it was taken out of context? poor o'reilly , another bully who can't take what he dishes out. how utterly pathetic he loks squirming as if he was smeared by, well , o'reilly. play the whole tape and we'll decide. |
| palmer 10/1/07 8:03 PM | If you go to O'Reilly's website there is an audio transcript. If it were "in context", where is Al Sharpton? He is not blathering and grandstanding. I do not have the time or interest to listen to the entire segment. I posted in an earlier thread a link to the text. What is not being presented is his comments leading up to the 'racist' comments. In a nutshell, he was commenting on the culture often presented in 'hip-hop' and that it is not representative of african-american culture. A number of african-americans have come to his defense regarding his comments. Either way, you will hear and believe what you want the scenario to be. I don't care for Bill O'Reilly and therefore do not listen to him. He is an entertainer that does not appeal to me. You should realize him for what he is, an entertainer, not a compass of political right or moral authority. If you do not like him, don't listen to him. |
| philly54 10/1/07 10:24 PM | Why is this subject even being brought up again? It was discussed just a week ago on another thread started by Gil. Mostly the same posters, same arguements, same counter-arguements, and in the end no one is going to change anyone else's opinion. The only reason i'm posting now is to point out that Gil likes to yank peoples chains and we fall for it. Whatever, if that's what your into, argue on. |
| usedmeat 10/2/07 12:05 AM | Gee, where were the whiney butt gop babies when Al Gore was being taken out of context or had words put in his mouth. Now the shoe is on the other foot and listen to them beep and moan. |
| ArtVandolay 10/2/07 5:30 AM | QUOTE(usedmeat @ Oct 2 2007, 12:05 AM) [snapback]325348[/snapback] Gee, where were the whiney butt gop babies when Al Gore was being taken out of context or had words put in his mouth. Now the shoe is on the other foot and listen to them beep and moan. \Meat - How about something new and useful from you? A little new material, please! |
| justplainjoe 10/2/07 6:33 AM | QUOTE(palmer @ Oct 1 2007, 08:03 PM) [snapback]325327[/snapback] If you go to O'Reilly's website there is an audio transcript. If it were "in context", where is Al Sharpton? He is not blathering and grandstanding. I do not have the time or interest to listen to the entire segment. I posted in an earlier thread a link to the text. What is not being presented is his comments leading up to the 'racist' comments. In a nutshell, he was commenting on the culture often presented in 'hip-hop' and that it is not representative of african-american culture. A number of african-americans have come to his defense regarding his comments. Either way, you will hear and believe what you want the scenario to be. I don't care for Bill O'Reilly and therefore do not listen to him. He is an entertainer that does not appeal to me. You should realize him for what he is, an entertainer, not a compass of political right or moral authority. If you do not like him, don't listen to him. he is just getting the proverbial taste of his own medicine and is not reacting very well at all. |
| cyberscribbler 10/2/07 8:44 AM | QUOTE(palmer @ Oct 1 2007, 08:03 PM) [snapback]325327[/snapback] he was commenting on the culture often presented in 'hip-hop' and that it is not representative of african-american culture. A number of african-americans have come to his defense regarding his comments. Not directed at you palmer, but I wanted to make this point:If anyone took the time (or saw Bill Maher's show) you'd understand why I commented in the first place. Michael Eric Dyson's point was yes you can't judge black culture entirely by hip-hop, but at the same time you can't completely disregard hip-hop music as a valid form of expression. There were/are artists such as Tupac, Mos Def and others making presicent comments about life in this country for a signifcant number of people living it daily. If Rudy/McCain/Mitt/Fred actually cared about what life is like for that segment of society, they'd at least show up for the debate, that's all!  |
| bigstew 10/2/07 5:25 PM | QUOTE If Rudy/McCain/Mitt/Fred actually cared about what life is like for that segment of society, You forgot Hill/Barrack/Biden/Edwards. |
| cyberscribbler 10/3/07 8:40 AM | QUOTE(bigstew @ Oct 2 2007, 05:25 PM) [snapback]325655[/snapback] You forgot Hill/Barrack/Biden/Edwards. |
| ArtVandolay 10/3/07 9:06 AM | QUOTE(cyberscribbler @ Oct 3 2007, 08:40 AM) [snapback]325768[/snapback] Which debate did they not attend? that's right, they were in NH, telling everyone they would not commit to ending the war by the end of their first term if elected. Which would make it, lets see.....2013. Driving Soros crazy! |
| cyberscribbler 10/3/07 9:22 AM | QUOTE(ArtVandolay @ Oct 3 2007, 09:06 AM) [snapback]325778[/snapback] they were in NH, telling everyone they would not commit to ending the war by the end of their first term if elected. Sorry, I didn't understand it was a baited question. I was referring to the republican debate which the top 4 GOP candidates didn't attend. The segment of society being African Americans. Are you against the Biden/Brownback proposal? Or do you have to check which side Soros is on and take the opposite stance, 1st |
| justplainjoe 10/3/07 10:01 AM | QUOTE(cyberscribbler @ Oct 3 2007, 09:22 AM) [snapback]325783[/snapback] I was referring to the republican debate which the top 4 GOP candidates didn't attend. The segment of society being African Americans. well the reason they didn't go to the debates is that they need the racist vote in the primaries and they don't want to offend the racists.LOL |
| ArtVandolay 10/3/07 10:23 AM | QUOTE(cyberscribbler @ Oct 3 2007, 09:22 AM) [snapback]325783[/snapback] Sorry, I didn't understand it was a baited question. I was referring to the republican debate which the top 4 GOP candidates didn't attend. The segment of society being African Americans. ***************************************************************** Yep, I understood you perfectly. The republicans SHOULD have been there. Are you against the Biden/Brownback proposal? Or do you have to check which side Soros is on and take the opposite stance, 1st The tribes and others in Iraq hate the Biden proposal. It takes away what is left of Iraq soveregn culture. It would create 3 border wars. A convenient and happy solution if someone asks "what would you do " to end the war. But would fail. I have no idea what Soros the pig would say on this. He bankrolled the dems election and they are disobeying the master, while he freaks out! |
| cyberscribbler 10/3/07 10:40 AM | QUOTE(ArtVandolay @ Oct 3 2007, 10:23 AM) [snapback]325807[/snapback] The tribes and others in Iraq hate the Biden proposal. It takes away what is left of Iraq soveregn culture. It would create 3 border wars. If there is such a thing as Iraqi sovreignty it's certainly not been strengthening in the last 4 years. I tend to think they'll be happy as long as the PSAs are dispersed equally among the regions. |
| justplainjoe 10/3/07 10:55 AM | QUOTE(ArtVandolay @ Oct 3 2007, 10:23 AM) [snapback]325807[/snapback] The tribes and others in Iraq hate the Biden proposal. It takes away what is left of Iraq soveregn culture. It would create 3 border wars. A convenient and happy solution if someone asks "what would you do " to end the war. But would fail. yes and they would much rather be shooting americans than each other. reason number 473 that jr boy should not have invaded the wrong country. |
| usedmeat 10/3/07 11:21 AM | QUOTE(ArtVandolay @ Oct 2 2007, 05:30 AM) [snapback]325384[/snapback] \ Meat - How about something new and useful from you? A little new material, please! Those who ignore history are bound to repeat its mistakes. And isn't you criticism of partitioning Iraq based on the history of the area and Arab/Persian relations, or did you pull your opinion out of thin air? |
| ArtVandolay 10/3/07 2:43 PM | QUOTE(usedmeat @ Oct 3 2007, 11:21 AM) [snapback]325825[/snapback] Those who ignore history are bound to repeat its mistakes. And isn't you criticism of partitioning Iraq based on the history of the area and Arab/Persian relations, or did you pull your opinion out of thin air? Nope,just what I read. It's a convenient plan for us, but we can't "shove it down their throats" to quote Biden. Division of Oil revenues also a problem. http://www.alternet.org/waroniraq/64075/ Excerpted: On Friday, Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki told The Associated Press that "dividing Iraq is a problem, and a decision like that would be a catastrophe. |
