Hillary hits back

July 20th, 2007 9:13 am · 10 comments

Well, this is one thing I like about Hillary - like her husband (and unlike John Kerry), she doesn’t take this nonsense sitting down, she fights back - and hard.

Clinton responded Friday in a letter to Edelman’s boss, Defense Secretary Robert Gates, asking if he agreed with Edelman’s charge.

She said Edelman had ducked her questions and “instead made spurious arguments to avoid addressing contingency planning.”

“Undersecretary Edelman has his priorities backward,” Clinton wrote, calling his claim “outrageous and dangerous.”.

Dangerous, you betcha. But this is how the wingers work - no need for contingency planning, because they’re going to greet us with candy and flowers.

No need to plan for the end of the war and withdrawal, because we’re never leaving.

As Sullivan notes, “Memo to the Pentagon: senators are not the enemy, and asking for accountability is not treason.” But it is when you’re a winger. Which is pretty much the reason we’ve had no accountability. Which is exactly why Iraq is the way it is.

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  10 comments  Tags: Wingers · War on terror · War in Iraq

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bigstew
7/20/07
4:52 PM
memo to gil:
The pentagon is not your enemy. And senators are not part of the chain of command. Their job is to vote on legislation, period.
erstwhile
7/20/07
5:26 PM
QUOTE(bigstew @ Jul 20 2007, 04:52 PM) [snapback]306313[/snapback]
memo to gil:
The pentagon is not your enemy. And senators are not part of the chain of command. Their job is to vote on legislation, period.




Memo to Stew:

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The Constitution grants numerous powers to Congress. These include the powers: to levy and collect taxes in order to pay debts, provide for common defense and general welfare of the U.S.; to borrow money on the credit of the U.S.; to regulate commerce with other nations and between the states; to establish a uniform rule of naturalization; to coin money and regulate its value; provide for punishment of counterfeiting; establish post offices and roads, promote progress of science, create courts inferior to the Supreme Court, define and punish piracies and felonies, declare war, raise and support armies, provide and maintain a navy, make rules for the regulation of land and naval forces, provide for, arm, and discipline the militia, exercise exclusive legislation in Washington D.C, and make laws necessary to execute the powers of Congress.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Us_government



The legislative branch of the federal government does a whole lot more than vote on legislation. Period.

bigstew
7/20/07
5:29 PM
QUOTE(erstwhile @ Jul 20 2007, 05:26 PM) [snapback]306324[/snapback]




Memo to Stew:



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Us_government



The legislative branch of the federal government does a whole lot more than vote on legislation. Period.



But don't they legislate to do all those things? Besides, they are not in the chain of command.

erstwhile
7/20/07
6:29 PM
Are you talking about the order of succession? The one that goes President, Vice President, Speaker of the House, President Pro Tempore of the Senate, Secretary of State, etc.? What do you mean by "Chain of Command?"

Your original statement was that the legislature was there to vote on legislation. Their primary function is to write legislation. It's an important distinction and one you should have learned in civics.
bigstew
7/20/07
10:37 PM
QUOTE(erstwhile @ Jul 20 2007, 06:29 PM) [snapback]306341[/snapback]
Are you talking about the order of succession? The one that goes President, Vice President, Speaker of the House, President Pro Tempore of the Senate, Secretary of State, etc.? What do you mean by "Chain of Command?"

Your original statement was that the legislature was there to vote on legislation. Their primary function is to write legislation. It's an important distinction and one you should have learned in civics.




What happens after they write it?

erstwhile
7/20/07
11:15 PM
It goes to committee where it dies.
bigstew
7/20/07
11:19 PM
QUOTE(erstwhile @ Jul 20 2007, 11:15 PM) [snapback]306389[/snapback]
It goes to committee where it dies.


And if it lives?

erstwhile
7/20/07
11:47 PM
It gets voted on Stew. Know what happens then?

Legislation can't be voted on until it's written Stew. You said:
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Their job is to vote on legislation, period.




As I've illustrated amply, their job is not to vote on legislation, period. We couldn't have the form of government we have without a Legislative Branch Stew. They are an important weapon in resisting a slide into tyranny. Congress' job is to write legislation, vote on legislation ans then present it to the president. But while they are busy with that they are also monitoring the doings of the other two branches of government, and the other two are keeping an eye on Congress. Our Constitution calls it a balance of power. And it's often said that we have three co-equal branches of government. They are all important, none more than the other. You can try to minimize the importance of congressional oversight all you want to, but it doesn't make it true.

usedmeat
7/21/07
1:45 PM
Congerssional oversight or the lack of it by the republican majority is the reason we are where we are today.

New York's junior senator is standing up to the Bush junta and the Moron-American segment of the population hates it. biggrin.gif

bigstew
7/22/07
3:09 PM
QUOTE(erstwhile @ Jul 20 2007, 11:47 PM) [snapback]306394[/snapback]
It gets voted on Stew. Know what happens then?

Legislation can't be voted on until it's written Stew. You said:




As I've illustrated amply, their job is not to vote on legislation, period. We couldn't have the form of government we have without a Legislative Branch Stew. They are an important weapon in resisting a slide into tyranny. Congress' job is to write legislation, vote on legislation ans then present it to the president. But while they are busy with that they are also monitoring the doings of the other two branches of government, and the other two are keeping an eye on Congress. Our Constitution calls it a balance of power. And it's often said that we have three co-equal branches of government. They are all important, none more than the other. You can try to minimize the importance of congressional oversight all you want to, but it doesn't make it true.



As I've illustrated simply, they vote on legislation.



They are important, but I feel as if some love grabbing headlines more than their real job. They could do a lot more if they put their heads down and went to work.

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