Dose of her own medicine
June 28th, 2007 1:58 pm · 27 comments
So Ann Coulter gets blindsided by Elizabeth Edwards on “Hardball,” and apparently she’s having a very, very difficult time taking what she’s so fond of dishing out.
Check out this clip from Scarborough - she’s practically crying.
She’s “never seen people avoid ideas so much.”
Ann, what specific “ideas” are we talking about? The one where you wish John Edwards were assassinated? The one where you called him a “faggot?” Or the one where you mocked the death of his teenage son?
It’s all so unfair.
There’s some evidence now that this is specifically the Edwards’ campaign’s strategy: Go after the wingnuts full bore, deliver a stiff dose of what the likes of Coulter are so used to dishing out. Ann is proving the soundness of this strategy with her whining, with her inability to counter the criticism. Everyone is noticing this inability, and it proves the old adage: You want to shut the bully up, you pop them in the mouth. Then they start whining, as Coulter has.
Win or lose, the Edwards campaign should keep this up. There’s definitely a constituency for it.
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6/28/07
2:25 PM | QUOTE(Lancaster Online @ Jun 28 2007, 02:00 PM) [snapback]300480[/snapback]
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It's a campaign strategy for Edwards to go after Coulter. Rile up the masses, then use it as a fund-raising tool.
I've been watching Hardball for years, yet I don't recall another instance where a caller was allowed to sandbag a guest by telephone, especially since the offending comments were made three years ago.
But after listening to Matthews last night, go on and on about how great Elizabeth Edwards is, it wouldn't surprise me if we found out that this was yet another great moment of journalistic collusion, just like the National Guard story on CBS.
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Your a journalist Gil. (See, I didn't use a question mark.)
Don't you question how that phone call happened?
Just because Coulter is on the fringe of the far right, isn't she still entitled to some fair play by the mainstream media?
Can anyone just call in to a show like Hardball and get involved in a debate with a guest?
John Edwards was on last night, but no one called in. Isn't that strange?
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Goldilocks
6/28/07
2:38 PM | Hello-o-o-o....earth to Gil…… Edwards was the one who called “Hardball” with her pitiful whining about stuff said 3 or 4 years ago, not Coulter. Both these women should just shut up! One is crass and the other a money grubbing whiner. Why doesn’t Edwards prove herself to be a better woman than Coulter, suck it up and move on. Of course than she and her “pretty” husband couldn’t capitalize off Coulter for political fund raiser purposes.
Gil, did you read the “Best Republican bashing Joke Evar (sic) Thread” thread? Talk about dishing it out ! No different than the Ann Coulters of this world.
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gsmart
6/28/07
2:53 PM | QUOTE(Pericles @ Jun 28 2007, 02:25 PM) [snapback]300498[/snapback]
Don't you question how that phone call happened?
Matthews was getting it from the left for permitting Coulter on in the first place. The question here is - is she a legitimate commentator? And especially after the "!profanity!" thing, there's a growing consensus that no - she's not. But Matthews thought so, and booked her. Then he got slammed. And it wouldn't have surprised me if Edwards got through specifically that Matthews might mollify those critics.
Was Coulter the first one to get ambushed this way? Don't you recall Chris Matthews ambush of Bill Clinton a few years back?
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justplainjoe
6/28/07
2:54 PM | ann was asked before the show if she would take a call from ms edwards. she was not sandbagged.hardball producer said so on camera .
i refuse to watch ann coulter since she never talks issues but just gets both sides pistoff at each other for her own gain.
is this the best we can do? if it is then this country is finished.
as for the joke board they were jokes.
some of mine were pretty clever,,ain't?
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Magnus
6/28/07
3:05 PM | Ann Coulter = John Edwards = Paris Hilton.
Like roaches after a nuclear holocaust.
Stiiiiiillll there. Can't seem to go away.
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harv1
6/28/07
3:19 PM | "Why doesn’t Edwards prove herself to be a better woman than Coulter, suck it up and move on."
Because people are tired of turning the other cheek to strident and shrieking maroons. As we learned in the 2000 campaign, when Bush's creeps did the whispering campaign about McCain's supposed mulatto illegitimate child and the crap that the swifties put forward... you know discrediting a vet so that was louder than the AWOL and drug abuse story about their own candidate... that these kinds of things need to be addressed. It doesn't matter if it was three years ago or yesterday.
Sucking it up doesn't work with this crap. |
Pericles
6/28/07
3:25 PM | QUOTE(harv1 @ Jun 28 2007, 03:19 PM) [snapback]300531[/snapback] "Why doesn't Edwards prove herself to be a better woman than Coulter, suck it up and move on."
Because people are tired of turning the other cheek to strident and shrieking maroons. As we learned in the 2000 campaign, when Bush's creeps did the whispering campaign about McCain's supposed mulatto illegitimate child and the crap that the swifties put forward... you know discrediting a vet so that was louder than the AWOL and drug abuse story about their own candidate... that these kinds of things need to be addressed. It doesn't matter if it was three years ago or yesterday.
Sucking it up doesn't work with this crap.
Coulter didn't engage in a whispering campaign. Her statements, although strident, we made in public or in print.
This isn't about Ann Coulter, it's about fund raising for the Edwards campaign. For goodness sake, some of the comments were three years old. Only one comment was recent.
This was an opportunity for Edwards to get publicity. Hardball provided the forum and Coulter the ammunition.
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harv1
6/28/07
3:45 PM | As an independent, neither Repub or Democrat, I can honestly say that I think our country is on too tenuous an edge right now to mire us in stuff like this for an entire election campaign. Maybe it's just me, but the longer this goes and the more crap like this happens, on BOTH sides, the more that people are just going to give up on their vote. However, based upon the way that the Dems handled this stuff in the past, I think that they are going to bull dog every criticism. Taking the higher ground doesn't work.
In the 2006 election we were lied to by non-incumbents that if they were just voted in... that's all it would take to get this war aimed to end. Red states turned blue because millions of parents of soldiers wanted their kids out of there. And what did we get as a result? Yet another 'class' of representatives more beholden to their perks, their free health care, their lobbyists and not having the sense God gave them to figure out how to mount the proper bill without making it look like they were voting against the troops.
Why did they end up supporting the status quo? Because they already heard the re-election ad campaigns saying that they didn't support the troops. So how did they support them? By keeping them there with no end in sight. Too stupid to write a bill that would work so they caved.
Stem cell research is not my biggest rallying point. Neither is abortion rights because no matter who is elected in any seat, we have five Roman Catholic justices who will bow to the Pope's directive rather than the people of the United States of America's wishes. If they do not bow to the Pope's directive that anyone who votes for or approves of abortion for ANY reason will be excomunicated. I don't see any of these conservative Roman Catholics wanting that to happen.
There are huge problems. And they are huger than a bunch of people coming here to earn money illegally. Hell, our ancestors did the same things and left the problems of their own countries behind. We laud them as pioneers.
Our country's problems are fiscal and the perception that the rest of the world has regarding us nation building, lying to excuse imperialism, and disdain for one small group that wields so much power over the many.
Who the hell can fix this? We're going to have problems for generations. And for this next presidential election, if all we get is more crap from people whose only intention is winning over everything? Ugh.
And if it is true that Coulter knew Mrs. Edwards was going to call, as stated above in another post... Mrs. Edwards is terminally ill. Her cancer has greatly metasticized. Coulter should have been smart enough to know that Mrs. Edwards just might have that certain sense of clarity that dying people seem to attain. |
grieker
6/28/07
3:49 PM | QUOTE(harv1 @ Jun 28 2007, 02:19 PM) [snapback]300531[/snapback] "Why doesn't Edwards prove herself to be a better woman than Coulter, suck it up and move on."
Because people are tired of turning the other cheek to strident and shrieking maroons. As we learned in the 2000 campaign, when Bush's creeps did the whispering campaign about McCain's supposed mulatto illegitimate child and the crap that the swifties put forward... you know discrediting a vet so that was louder than the AWOL and drug abuse story about their own candidate... that these kinds of things need to be addressed. It doesn't matter if it was three years ago or yesterday.
Sucking it up doesn't work with this crap.
When Bushy was running who was it that brought up the National Guard absence, the drunk driving charge, the cocaine use; etc, etc, etc?
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Save-the-Land
6/28/07
3:52 PM | Who really cares what Elizabeth Edwards has to say about anything? Her husband - the candidate - barely has anything worth saying.
Here's a personal injury lawyer that got rich suing large corporations (profitting from other people's suffering), served only one term as a US Senate (he would not have won re-election) and his main campaign platform statement about "Two Americas" is laughable, as he is one of the have's. He is a total fraud!
Also, I have no respect for a guy that pays $400 for a haircut.....and also was unknowingly caught on video footage....primping and preening in front of a camera for about 5 minutes like he was prepping for a beauty contest. It's obvious he's in love with himself. So if I can't take the candidate seriously why would I care what his wife has to say - I don't!
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harv1
6/28/07
3:52 PM | Maybe they brought it up because it had some truth to it? More truth than the mulatto baby and the Kerry crap? There's one thing about bringing up the truth... especially after Newtie et all the other philanderers dragged Clinton through the 'truth cycle' that maybe just maybe we needed to know if Bush was a dry drunk and had his dealer in North Carolina really and mysteriously committed 'suicide.' |
usedmeat
6/28/07
11:48 PM | QUOTE Here's a personal injury lawyer that got rich suing large corporations (profitting from other people's suffering), I would bet that some on this forum belittling John Edwards because he was an attorney would be first in line to file a suit if they thought they were wronged. QUOTE .....and also was unknowingly caught on video footage....primping and preening in front of a camera for about 5 minutes like he was prepping for a beauty contest. As opposed to Bush calling a reporter a major league a-hole or giving Texans the finger on video toward the end of his term as governor?QUOTE When Bushy was running who was it that brought up the National Guard absence, the drunk driving charge, the cocaine use; etc, etc, etc? Concerned Americans who have since been proven right about Bush and his ability to govern that, unlike the smears and lies about Al Gore, were true |
hahaha
6/29/07
8:27 AM | Typical hypocrite. Didn't see Elizabeth get upset when the call Bush all sorts of names. |
usedmeat
6/29/07
11:47 AM | You are truly a piece of work, goldi.
Running for political office is expensive and if a low-life like Coulter gives the Edwards ammunition so be it. Ann could have attacked John Edwards on the issues but like most republicans resorted to personal attacks. This speaks volumes on what America thinks of republicans more than any short comings of Democrats. Why don't you go after some of the republican methods to raise funds?
If Elizabeth Edwards used donor eggs, who's business is it but their own? Laura Bush ran a stop sign and killed a former high school boy friend, is that germane to a discussion of Bush's inability to govern America in an honest and forthright manner?
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justplainjoe
6/29/07
12:04 PM | QUOTE(usedmeat @ Jun 29 2007, 11:47 AM) [snapback]300752[/snapback]
If Elizabeth Edwards used donor eggs, who's business is it but their own? Laura Bush ran a stop sign and killed a former high school boy friend, is that germane to a discussion of Bush's inability to govern America in an honest and forthright manner?
no but jr boy's drunk driving and cocaine use sure is.
of course jr found the lord. sadly it didn't help when he screwed all those shareholders in harkin energy ,or when he smeared war hero john mccain or lied to start a major war, but hey christians aren't perfect just forgiven, which explains why they like to kill anything that moves.LOL |
usedmeat
6/30/07
2:17 AM | Funny thing about that. Remember how the republicans and the media badgered Bill Clinton about drug use until he admitted to smoking a joint? Bush said anything before 1973 is off limits and they both said, "fine by us, sir". |
harv1
6/30/07
12:31 PM | QUOTE Funny thing about that. Remember how the republicans and the media badgered Bill Clinton about drug use until he admitted to smoking a joint? Bush said anything before 1973 is off limits and they both said, "fine by us, sir".
And no one sees the irony... major alcoholic, wife sucking down cigs a mile a minute, cocaine killing brain cells, and suddenly it's 'off limits' but it was OK to spend eight years of hounding Clinton because the US was actually doing TOO well and they needed to sleaze it up to come in like knights on shining Newties (couldn't come in on horses; Bush has a horse phobia). So the fact that he used to be able to string a sentence together before the booze and blow cooked his brains is not germaine to the discussion. Case closed. Yeesh...
I know that someday the truth will come out about his backpack prompter that was worn so many times. It's just a matter of time until the puppet image is complete. |
usedmeat
6/30/07
7:05 PM | QUOTE I know that someday the truth will come out about his backpack prompter that was worn so many times. It's just a matter of time until the puppet image is complete. Part of being republican is the ability to ignore the obvious. During the debate the bulge in Bush's suit was plainly seen but the big thing in freepervile was John Kerry brought his own note pad and pen to the podium. |
why?
6/30/07
9:06 PM | oh noes!!! ann's panties are in a bunch!
who f*cking cares.
she's a bitch who loves to dish it out, and can't take it when it happens to her.
cry me a river, ms. hypocrite.
deal or don't, life's tough, get a f*cking helmet.
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citydweller
6/30/07
9:37 PM | Elizabeth Edwards used the phrase "coarsening of the political dialog" in relation to Mann Coulter et al and their hyper-venemous "Hey FAG go F yourself" style of so-called "political commentary".
I found that very generous of her. Downright civil. Rare these days.
The coursening of dialog, of culture, any culture in this country - political, societal, musical, theatrical - is all but over, or possibly has already been for some time.
Now we just shred it to bits. Passes through the bowels faster and more comfortably that way. Coarse is rough with sharpness to it, causes discomfort and possible reflection on having eaten it. Shredded goes down like jello at the rest home.
The Beast isn't "at the door", it's on TV, radio and in your local book store now. And as Madge used to say, "You're soaking in it!" |
gsmart
7/1/07
12:37 AM | QUOTE(harv1 @ Jun 30 2007, 12:31 PM) [snapback]300947[/snapback]
I know that someday the truth will come out about his backpack prompter that was worn so many times. It's just a matter of time until the puppet image is complete.
But the wingers, of course, will have some half-baked explanation. The teleprompter of freedom.
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justplainjoe
7/1/07
7:27 AM | it's a lot easier to get someone to hate than it is to get someone to love. all she is doing is milking the enormous amount of hatred in america today.when there is no hatred on the surface she manufactures some and then profits from it.
real conservatives must be appalled by her. she has hijacked their message which is a good and honest message and turned it into something ugly.
progressives in their foolishness allow this by responding. if they would but say..."interesting position, however it brings nothing to the table of reasonable discourse", she would evaporate like the proverbial buffalo fart on a breezy day.
i consider myself a progressive person but i honor the real conservatives and what they stand for, i see merit it their beliefs.
it is easy for us to get off track and be emotionally manipulated but the key to avoiding having someone pull your strings is to realize that they are doing so to your own detriment .not reacting has so much more power than jumping up and down and shaking your fist at the sky trying to counter emotional manipulation with logic.
if this woman didn't say outrageous things for the express purpose of eliciting a reaction she can then feed on, there would be no dialogue because she really has nothing much to say.
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harv1
7/1/07
10:08 AM | jpj: "Milking the enormous amount of hatred in America." Maybe that explains the ease with which Limbaugh, Hannity, Drudge, and pundit screamers across the country were able to whip up such an anti-amnesty frenzy but not link it directly to who was promoting... GWB? GWB was the cheerleader, promoter, and pursuer of the new immigrant policies. But we never heard hateful words toward GWB. There was enough hate toward human beings that they could keep GWB out of the mix. The hate superceded Bush and he became irrelevant. All Drudge had to do was banner a big picture of McConnell at the top of his page and in the end McConnell whose wife's own family's immigration is fraught with controversy, came out against the bill.
It's getting more and more like if you fall on the majority's side of hate you have a much better chance of being re-elected than if you take a stand for something positive.
Where is the frenzy to bring our troops home? Is the only way to accomplish that to manufacture some sort of hate agenda that can stop the senseless slaughter? Why don't people hate that we were lied to and demand accountability and an end? |
bigstew
7/1/07
2:58 PM | I watched the clip, what's the big deal.
As far as coulter goes, she's got her little niche, get over it. If the whiners on here were really that appalled by free speech that turns a little ugly, then they need to start new blogs about Howard Dean, Al Franken, Dowd, and Huffington.
What say you Gil? Are you only against free speech from the other side of the political divide? |
usedmeat
7/2/07
11:32 AM | When have the above named sunk to the depths of Ann Coulter's remark about poisoning a SCOTUS justice or wished in print that one of the 911 aircraft had hit the NYT building instead of the WTC towers?
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Amish Mystic
7/2/07
12:51 PM | WOW! The venom, hypocrisy, hatred and sniping here are incredible. Not all liberals are spineless lemmings. Not all conservatives are religious right brown-nosers. If this board is any reflection of the political discourse in this country, we have far more important things to worry about than Ann Coulter getting her panties in a knot for being called on the carpet about her own comments, regardless of when or where they were said. Republicans are not the enemy, Democrats are not the enemy. Individuals like Cheney, Sharpton, Rove, James Dobson, (sorry, could not come up with more liberals to keep it balanced) are the ones to blame for inflaming the public mood in highly volatile ways that do nothing to help get things accomplished. Instead of %itching and moaning about what is wrong, how about trying something constructive like coming up with ideas about how to fix things and take the namecalling down a few notches? I have seen kindergarden classes show more maturity. If you want to vent, go write a journal, then burn it. Try something productive, helpful. Something that advances humanity instead of trying to provoke sociopolitcal Armageddon. |
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