Ship of tools
June 26th, 2007 9:28 am · 4 comments
TNR’s Johann Hari cruises with the National Review crowd and watches the neocons dis their elders:
“Aren’t you embarrassed by the absence of these weapons?” Buckley snaps at Podhoretz. He has just explained that he supported the war reluctantly, because Dick Cheney convinced him Saddam Hussein had WMD primed to be fired. “No,” Podhoretz replies. “As I say, they were shipped to Syria. During Gulf war one, the entire Iraqi air force was hidden in the deserts in Iran.” He says he is “heartbroken” by this “rise of defeatism on the right.” He adds, apropos of nothing, “There was nobody better than Don Rumsfeld. This defeatist talk only contributes to the impression we are losing, when I think we’re winning.”
The audience cheers Podhoretz. The nuanced doubts of Bill Buckley leave them confused. Doesn’t he sound like the liberal media? Later, over dinner, a tablemate from Denver calls Buckley “a coward.” His wife nods and says, “Buckley’s an old man,” tapping her head with her finger to suggest dementia.
See? It’s not the neocons who are demented; it’s everyone else.
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There are currently 4 comments on this blog postView Topic | Comment on this blogusedmeat 6/27/07 12:10 AM | Ya gotta wonder, do dick Cheney and vice pres Bush believe the stuff they spew? |
philly54 6/27/07 2:02 AM | QUOTE(usedmeat @ Jun 27 2007, 12:10 AM) [snapback]300026[/snapback] Ya gotta wonder, do dick Cheney and vice pres Bush believe the stuff they spew? That's the scary part! I think they do!!!!
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harv1 6/27/07 2:35 AM | Add this nut to the tree:
Scalia a fan of '24' from the Gitmo
Tuesday, June 26th 2007, 12:58 PM
Supreme Court Justice (and '24' fan) Antonin Scalia
It's hard to picture Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia in his Barcalounger watching "24."
But the jurist is a fan, and he leapt to the defense of the show's character Jack Bauer at a recent international conference of top judges and homeland security officials in Ottawa debating the use of torture against alleged terrorists.
Scalia chafed when Canadian federal Judge Richard Mosley remarked, "Thankfully, security agencies in all our countries do not subscribe to the mantra, 'What would Jack Bauer do?'"
Bauer, who's played by Kiefer Sutherland, is rough on suspects, saying things like, "You are going to tell me what I want to know - it's just a matter of how much you want it to hurt."
"Jack Bauer saved Los Angeles!" Scalia blasted at the Administration of Justice and National Security in Democracies conference. "He saved hundreds of thousands of lives!
"Are you going to convict Jack Bauer? Say that criminal law is against him? Is any jury going to convict Jack Bauer? I don't think so!"
Colin Freeze, a reporter at Toronto's Globe and Mail, noted that Scalia must have been an avid viewer during "24's" second season, in which Bauer tormented terrorists who'd planned to nuke L.A.
Scalia said that, in times of crisis, law enforcement needs latitude in dealing with terrorists. He was not moved by arguments that some prisoners, in places such as Guantanamo Bay, may be innocent.
"I don't care about holding people. I really don't," Judge Scalia added.
Other judges said that allowing torture is "a slippery slope" and noted that coerced confessions don't hold up in court anyway.
It didn't help Scalia's mood when another Canadian, human-rights lawyer Stanley Cohen, asked: "How many people are we going to torture to save L.A.?"
The session broke, and Scalia was still talking about the show. "There's a great scene where he told a guy that he was going to have his family killed," he said. "They had it on closed-circuit television - and it was all staged. ... They really didn't kill the family."
Earth to Scalia: It's a TV show. As for holding innocent people, Scalia would have been a great tower guard at the Japanese internment camps...
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bigstew 6/27/07 5:48 AM | QUOTE Earth to Scalia: It's a TV show. As for holding innocent people, Scalia would have been a great tower guard at the Japanese internment camps...
And what liberal icon started those? |
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