As of today, we have lost 3,802 soldiers in Bush's "war on terror".

Has anyone seen the movie "The Caine Mutiny" with humphrey bogart? Well folks, we have a lunatic at the helm and it's time for someone to relieve him of command!

We lost 3,802; how many of the enemy have we killed? The media prowdly reports our losses, how often do you see their losses?

I believe NEVER is the answer.

As of today, we have lost 3,802 soldiers in Bush's "war on terror".

Has anyone seen the movie "The Caine Mutiny" with humphrey bogart? Well folks, we have a lunatic at the helm and it's time for someone to relieve him of command!

We lost 3,802; how many of the enemy have we killed? The media prowdly reports our losses, how often do you see their losses?

I believe NEVER is the answer.

If you watched the press conference yesterday, the difference between the two is stunning.

There was a link sometime back to videos of Bush when he ran for congress then governor of Texas and videos of him recently. I haven't seen them but they say the difference is striking. Back then he was coherent and could speak in complete sentences.

Former President Jimmy Carter made one mistake during his term in office. He gave the former Shaw of Iran safe haven in the US for medical treatment. Then when the Iranian people took over our embassy he orderd the failed rescue mission.

Raved Palavi, or what ever his name, was our puppet installed in Iran after the legitimetly elected government decided to nationalize the oil industry. After he was overthrown Carter felt we had a moral obligation to him. At the time of the rescue attempt the military was recuperating from Vietnam.

Bush had a long way to go before he becomes anywhere near equal to Carter.

We lost 3,802; how many of the enemy have we killed? The media prowdly reports our losses, how often do you see their losses?

I believe NEVER is the answer.

It's true ! Yes we have lost alot of soliders , however Iraq have lost double the amount. Why should we expect to be told these things, right . I am not saying that the lives of our soldiers is insignificant. I am just saying there are two sides to this story. A life is a life whether it is American or Iraqi. Either way it is shameful.

the biggest difference between carter and jr boy is that carter is a real christian.

We lost 3,802; how many of the enemy have we killed? The media prowdly reports our losses, how often do you see their losses?

I believe NEVER is the answer.

It's true ! Yes we have lost alot of soliders , however Iraq have lost double the amount. Why should we expect to be told these things, right . I am not saying that the lives of our soldiers is insignificant. I am just saying there are two sides to this story. A life is a life whether it is American or Iraqi. Either way it is shameful.

well if you consider women and children as the enemy we have killed upwards of 650,000.

reagan criticized carter for that but reagan, ever the dolt, would have criticized carter had he not allowed in cubans fleeing from commonism.

If Carter fits your definition of a real Christian, please don't EVER call me a Christian again.

What enemy? Who exactly is the "enemy" we are killing, and for what reason? We are involved in a civil war, so they are each others enemy, we are just "there".

P,
You forgot the 2,000,000 who've fled the country because of the volatility.

why because he thinks killing is wrong and builds houses for poor people?

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Gets all his material for the dailykos and moveon.org.

oops - forgot the Huffington Post.

If it's a civil war, who invited Al Qaeda, the Syrians and the Iranians?

why because he thinks killing is wrong and builds houses for poor people?

As opposed to what? Believing every lie that comes out of Dick "the insurgency is in it's death throes" Cheney?

Another liberal lie. Reagan was far from being a dolt, although that's the label applied to every Republican president since Ike. It seems that the release of Reagan's private diaries has shown everyone just how smart and perceptive the man was... everyone except Joe.

As opposed to what? Believing every lie that comes out of Dick "the insurgency is in it's death throes" Cheney?

If the term "Christian" means Christ-like, and Christ Himself is prepared to condemn many to an eternity in hell for rejecting him, where does that leave Carter's beliefs??

Jim-ah Cart-ah is a narcissistic phony who was a coward as a president. Jim-ah couldn't hold water to Nixon, let alone Bush 2.

so how then was ollie north able to steal 25,000,000 dollars worth of missles from the gummint and sell them to the iranians right under his nose, without reagan knowing about it and bush daddy being "out of the loop"??

doesn't sound very smart to me.

ike warned o f us the military industrial complex and admitted in his book mandate for change that ho chi mhin would have won any election in vietnam by a lancslide and therefor we could not allow democracy there. how is that a dolt.

nixon was an evil bastad who let americans die in vietnam even tho he knew we would not win. not a dolt but roasting in hell as we speak.

You have bought the lie that everything is a lie.

When did Cheney become an evil liar?

Was it when he was a congressman from Wyoming?

When he worked for Nixon?

When he worked for Ford?

When he was SecDef?

When he worked for Haliburton?

When he became Vice President?

Was he an evil liar before 9/11 or just after 9/11?

Was he an evil liar before Afghanistan? What lies did he tell to get us involved there?

Iran Contra? William Casey knew about it. Poindexter knew about it. But the president doesn't know the activities of every Lieutentant Colonel in Washington. You're right, he must have been a dolt.

You forgot Ford who was characterized as a bumbling, clumsy fool.

Give me a break. Every dem is considered brilliant by the press and republicans are considered stupid.

Jim-ah Cart-ah is a narcissistic phony who was a coward as a president. Jim-ah couldn't hold water to Nixon, let alone Bush 2.

you are right. nixon killed millions of vietnamese for nothing and let thousands of amercan soldiers die for nothing .

bush 2??haven't you heard?? bush and his crew mock christians and refer to them as wackos.

Try again...politicians played patty-cake with our military in Vietnam, when we should've just let the military do its job. Same applies for Iraq; if the military was allowed to do its job, the battle in Iraq would be long over.

Magnus, he was mocking and calling the christian leaders those names who are the same christian leaders who call him each Monday and who he conferences with each week.

do some self educating. new tapes of nixon talking to kissinger show the two of them admitting that we can never win but they killed more than a million vietnamese and let thousands of american boys die none the less.for nothing.

so as a follower of christ how many should we kill in iraq to "win".

61% of iraqis say it is okay to kill americans, so lets see 61% of 28,000,000 is app. 17,000,000 people.

as a good follower of christ would you want to kill 17,000,000 to "win"?

sounds more like devil worship to me.LOL

As of today, we have lost 3,802 soldiers in Bush's "war on terror".

Has anyone seen the movie "The Caine Mutiny" with humphrey bogart? Well folks, we have a lunatic at the helm and it's time for someone to relieve him of command!

Seriously, a large parking lot in Iraq sounds great to me. Iran and Afghanistan would be nice too.

Anyone just see the news? The Senate Intelligence Committee in 2003 (you know, back when the senate and the house were Republican-dominated), gave two confidential documents to the White House outlining the horrors that would happen if we invaded Iraq. Just about every part of the intelligence reports have come true. The White House was given this, it knew it, it was well researched etc. etc.

What was the response? Suppress the reports and bomb the hell out of them and let God sort it out...

Responsible people in the government knew what would happen to Iraq if we removed Saddam, why do you think Bush the Smarter didn't go after him in 1991? Talk to the Arabs and Persians who live there and they will tell you there is no such thing as Iraq. It is a construct of British imperialism and as such there is no real sense of Iraqi nationalism.

Civil war was inevetable and so was al Qaida moving in to kill American troops and to train in urban warfare.

At the beginning right after we took out Saddam we might have had a chance to stablize the region but things like taking over the Oil Ministry and the abuses at Abu Garab(sic) woke the Iraqis up to the fact that Bush was another petty dictator out to steal their resources for his own gain. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

The republican chickenhawks wanted a Vietnam do-over and they got it. It is so FUBARed that even the College Republicans and the Young Republicans get strangely silent when asked if the war is so important why aren't they serving? What has a higher priority than securing the Republic from jihadist foes?

Tell you what, bigstew, pericles, magnus, etal, when I hear of mass enlistments by the above groups, guys and gals, to support the war on "terra" I'll keep shut about what hypocrites republicnas are.

people who have studied Arab culture and the Middle East since they got their Bachelors Degree many years ago

So what is the dems excuse?

Following up on an earlier post for a moment, it may seem odd that the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence is just now, in mid-2007, producing a report on the White House ignoring warnings about Iraq in 2003. The war is already in its fifth year. Where has this information been? And wouldn't it have been a lot useful before, say, before the 2004 presidential election? ...

Under pressure to release Phase II before the 2006 elections, Roberts agreed to release subparts of the report, which documented what Ahmed Chalabi and other well-paid Iraqi exiles told the administration before the invasion, but nothing about the White House's mistakes.

Stew: the two intelligence reports that were put forward by the republican-dominated senate in 2003, clearly warned Rumsfeld, Cheney, Bush's brain Rove, and GWB of what would happen in the aftermath. Those intelligence reports read like a roadmap of what has happened. I guess my question would be: why didn't they listen?

because jr and some american idiots truly believed that god was talking to jr .

judging by the outcome i would guess that the voices he heard were those of the devil not god .

some folks are still convinced that black is white and lies are the truth.(sigh)
hey stew...think yer lil liar would win today against war hero john kerry???LOL

I would even admit that clinton was less than a popularity whore than kerry, whose waffling is legendary.

as opposed to , oh, john mccain or mitt romney? they should name pancake houses after them.LOL

oh and il duce himself said " i sometimes even disagree with myself."

kinda makes kerry look like a decider.LOL

How can anything make kerry look like a decider? Unless it is siding with american enemies

Doesn't matter. We don't hold elections everyday, and thank god we don't have a president that gives a rat's !profanity! about popular opinion. Presidents shouldn't be polling people to help them make decisions. Leadership requires a little more, which is a lot more than kerry has. I would even admit that clinton was less than a popularity whore than kerry, whose waffling is legendary.

And please tell me your joking about the hero part. By that definition, we are all heros.

you are right. nixon killed millions of vietnamese for nothing and let thousands of amercan soldiers die for nothing .

bush 2??haven't you heard?? bush and his crew mock christians and refer to them as wackos.

i thought you knew that.

sorry to be the one to break the news.

Or how about declaring a war, then proceeding to veto a bill that would fund said war. Flippin' and a floppin'. Isn't context a wonderful thing. I am not a hero by any definition, nor are the likes of Bush, Cheyney, and the rest of his cohorts that never spent a day in Viet Nam.



Later...Shawn

Reference source please!

Please pay attention young man, or the grown ups won't allow you to play. And I am not referring to kerry's "vote for and against".

Bush has been doin' more floppin than a fish out of water as of late.

I read where the Bush administration after mocking the Democrats for urging talks with North Korea, Syria, and Iran are doing just that.

I must have mis-read your post. I thought you referred to Kerry as a "waffler". How about enlightening me and discussing exactly what you are referring to when you refer to Kerry as a "waffler", if not the "vote for and against". Either way though, Bush has been doin' more floppin than a fish out of water as of late.



As an aside; If the tone of your messages are indicitive of what it means to be a "grown up", then I am certainly honored not to be included as part of that crowd.



Later...Shawn

Yeah, it sucks when you stand firm and make others bend to your will.

Bush admin. doing talks with North Korea, Syria, and Iran.

Yeah, it sucks when you stand firm and make others bend to your will.

do yer own research...



http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/0684851873...314#reader-link



as for mocking chritians that was a story last fall. do a search and disprove it if you like.

As I thought, baseless garbage from you yet again.



I'm done chasing dead geese.

At the time of the rescue attempt the military was recuperating from Vietnam.

How long will it take the U.S. military to recuperate from Iraq?

Physical equipment or personnel?

The equipment can be replaced fairly quickly, traing on the new stuff might take a while. The real problem will be replacing qualified officers who have left or are leaving rather than face extended tours. That will take years.