Is golf a sport?

July 20th, 2009 8:00 pm · 21 comments

We were one hard bounce off the 18th green at Turnberry away from having that tedious debate all week.

Some people - not the most thoughtful among us -are having it anyway.

What people who say golf isn’t a sport mean is they don’t like or respect golf, and I’m not going to argue with that. You like what you like. The substance, if that’s the right word, of the argument is based on some sliding subjective scale of strenuousness, and that’s just ridiculous.

Is walking 18 holes or more in 95 degree heat in a U.S. Open less strenuous that playing leftfield in a major-league baseball game? Or being an NFL placekicker? Golf is closer to, say, baseball in strenuousness than baseball is to, say, triathlon. That’s what I mean by subjective sliding scale- where do you draw the line?

But if you try to come up with a serious, sensible, honest definition of sport that excludes golf, you can’t do it. And why do you want to? It’s not an award. It’s a noun.

To be a sport, an activity must be 1. inherently competitive, and 2. require, in order to compete, athletic movements. Many things are athletic and not sports, amd many things are competitive and not sports. Have to be both.

There are a few tough judgment calls - auto racing, gymnastics (I’m inclined to say yes on both) - but golf isn’t close to being one of them.

Inherently competitive means the act of doing the activity is an act of competition. Judged performance is not inherently competitive. Thus figure skating, for example, is not a sport, and that’s not a knock on figure skating. Ballet could be “competed” at in exactly the same way figure skating is - utterly subjective judging of a performance - but ballet obviously isn’t a sport, and no one considers that a knock on ballet.

As for criterion 2., athletic movements require at least a couple of the following- speed, strength, agility, stamina, physical coordination, reflexes, flexibility, visual acuity, muscular and body control, etc, etc. There is no quality of the physical act of playing chess or poker(physically moving the pieces, pushing chips around) that has anything to do with winning or losing at chess or poker. I like and respect chess and poker, but they’re not sports.

The golf swing is obviously an athletic movement, and the game is among the more inherently competive activities created by mankind. End of argument.

Of course, golf is a sport. Come on, people.

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reese
7/20/09
8:13 PM
No, it's not. Particularly when it delays 60 Minutes.
skeptic2
7/20/09
8:43 PM
QUOTE (Lancaster Online @ Jul 20 2009, 08:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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Golf is everything- all else is meaningless BS

Funny story- the late great Myron Cope wrote a story in the 60's in SI arguing that golf is not a sport (or golfers are not athletes, one of those). So spring comes and Cope himself, a poor golfer, goes out on the course. As he walks to the tee, Arnold Palmer is there! Palmer said something like "let's see what HE can do".

He miraculously hits his drive straight 250 or more yards onto the fairway. Palmer isn't there when Cope tops his second shot....
mam0412
7/22/09
9:38 AM
Golf is as much a mind-game as pool or even tennis. Placement of the ball is everything.

Personally, I consider golf a drinking game. If it goes in the hole, drinks for everyone. If it's a bad day on the course, drink myself to oblivion.
A1
7/22/09
9:49 AM
Sport is certainly a part of it. DH golfs 3-4 days a week, and I'm a good sport about it.
Lisa Armellino
7/22/09
9:54 AM
Golf is absolutely a sport.
Lisa Armellino
7/22/09
10:09 AM
BTW Gil Let's go play golf I'll whoop ya!!!!
O311mc
7/22/09
10:35 AM
I never really thought of it as a sport, more like a hobby that takes a great deal of skill to get good at. (I suck at it) Probably is a sport,,I guess, maybe it is,,,possibly,,,,,
Takeaguess
7/22/09
11:37 AM
QUOTE (O311mc @ Jul 22 2009, 11:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I never really thought of it as a sport, more like a hobby that takes a great deal of skill to get good at. (I suck at it) Probably is a sport,,I guess, maybe it is,,,possibly,,,,,



Is auto racing a sport, how bout shooting?

None of the three are sports IMO. Great tests of skill and mind but sports, not so much.

Granted you must be in decent physical shape to be successful at any of them, there isn't much athletic ability needed to be good at them.
Lisa Armellino
7/22/09
11:40 AM
QUOTE (Takeaguess @ Jul 22 2009, 11:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Is auto racing a sport, how bout shooting?

None of the three are sports IMO. Great tests of skill and mind but sports, not so much.

Granted you must be in decent physical shape to be successful at any of them, there isn't much athletic ability needed to be good at them.



However, that depends on how you define athletic ability.
Goldilocks
7/22/09
11:51 AM
QUOTE (Takeaguess @ Jul 22 2009, 10:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Is auto racing a sport, how bout shooting?



Hubby and I go round and round on hunting. I say it is a sport, he says it is "putting meat on the table". Granted with this economy downturn, I am thankful for any reduction of the grocery bills, but I wonder if it truly is a savings when you consider the cost of gas, guns, bullets, clothing, etc. that hunting entails.






solitary
7/22/09
11:52 AM
Golf a sport? Only if Bowling and Darts are a sport. And chess.
Golf is a game.
Basketball is a sport
Soccer is a sport.
Hockey is a sport.
The difference? Physical exertion, if you have one guy on your team who's 30% or more body fat and he's able to play without having a heart attack, it's not a sport, it's a game.
Baseball? It's a game, look at Babe Ruth.
Football? Another game, some of the players have bigger beer guts than the fans.
Speaking of football, cheerleading... is neither. It's an activity, but it's no sport and I have a hard time saying it's a game.
Boxing? That's a sport. No way anyone overweight will last three rounds, let alone 12.
What ever that funny thing Canadians do with a worn out clothes iron and some brooms on ice? Yeah, that's a game.
Shuffle board, that's a game.
Hunting/fishing? More activities. Target shooting comes closer to a game, even though hunting helps being close to the game, it's not a game.
Cricket? I haven't figured out what that is, I think it might be an substitute for war, like Chess, so it's got to be a game.
Croquette? That's a great way to prepare chicken, puree it, mold it, dip it in eggs then flour, deep fry, cover in gravy... mmm.
Takeaguess
7/22/09
12:10 PM
QUOTE (Lisa Armellino @ Jul 22 2009, 12:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
However, that depends on how you define athletic ability.



I'd bet that Tom Watson(who is in great shape) could tear up most NFL players on the golf course don't you think? Many of them are in better shape and have much more athletic ability then Watson. They have the ability to drive the ball harder and further then Watson on any given shot, now the fact they can't execute it would be their inability and lack of hand/eye coordination not to mention their lack of knowledge to judge distance, club choice etc.

Golf is a game which requires much skill, thought, and a lot of luck as well.

QUOTE (Goldilocks @ Jul 22 2009, 12:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hubby and I go round and round on hunting. I say it is a sport, he says it is "putting meat on the table". Granted with this economy downturn, I am thankful for any reduction of the grocery bills, but I wonder if it truly is a savings when you consider the cost of gas, guns, bullets, clothing, etc. that hunting entails.


I'm with "hubby" on this one!

We don't count the gas, bullets, clothing, and beer when we factor that in! rolleyes.gif
dc
7/22/09
12:17 PM
What about the "sport" in the olympics where some guy pushes some square thing on ice and two guys run beside it with brooms sweeping the dirt (I guess) away....
Takeaguess
7/22/09
12:22 PM
QUOTE (dc @ Jul 22 2009, 01:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What about the "sport" in the olympics where some guy pushes some square thing on ice and two guys run beside it with brooms sweeping the dirt (I guess) away....



Not a sport! lol

They are actually "smoothing" the ice by melting it with friction to alter the trajectory of the stone or make it travel further down the ice. They are "roundish" not square. Jeesh! rolleyes.gif
dc
7/22/09
12:27 PM
QUOTE (Takeaguess @ Jul 22 2009, 12:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Not a sport! lol

They are actually "smoothing" the ice by melting it with friction to alter the trajectory of the stone or make it travel further down the ice. They are "roundish" not square. Jeesh! rolleyes.gif
If it is not a sport, then why is it in the Olympics?
Takeaguess
7/22/09
12:35 PM
QUOTE (dc @ Jul 22 2009, 01:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If it is not a sport, then why is it in the Olympics?



Somewhere along the line somebody came up with the notion that the olympics were all sports and not games. They still call it the "Olympic games" do they not?

Long before our time when competitions like this started they were to test ones skill, not necessarily ones athletic ability. Archery takes no athletic ability really, now it takes a good bit of skill.

It's all the romans faults! I think we should have jousting in the olympics like they used to in the Great colliseum, now that would be entertaining!

I find it amusing that fencing is an "olympic sport" don't you? An art of defense and aggression that is now considered a "sport".
Shawn
7/22/09
3:46 PM
How can any activity in which the participant can carry an extra ballsack not be considered a sport?

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Later...Shawn
denonarendra07
7/27/09
4:37 PM
QUOTE (Lancaster Online @ Jul 20 2009, 08:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Golf is not a game it is very boring game
football is the mens game so please ply football
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citizen-too
7/27/09
5:17 PM
Golfing is a sport, just a surfing (the web) is a sport. Depending on where you end up, your heart rate will increase. (thereby making it a sport)

QUOTE (dc @ Jul 22 2009, 12:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What about the "sport" in the olympics where some guy pushes some square thing on ice and two guys run beside it with brooms sweeping the dirt (I guess) away....


They call it "Hurling" but, I thought hurling was what you do after a good game of "Quarters".
Bigmaclender2
7/27/09
5:20 PM
QUOTE (reese @ Jul 20 2009, 08:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
No, it's not. Particularly when it delays 60 Minutes.


That was my exact response minus the 60 minutes, lol. I guess if bowling is allowed to be a sport then they should let golf in under the radar, lol.
Chance
7/27/09
6:09 PM
QUOTE (Goldilocks @ Jul 22 2009, 12:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hubby and I go round and round on hunting. I say it is a sport, he says it is "putting meat on the table". Granted with this economy downturn, I am thankful for any reduction of the grocery bills, but I wonder if it truly is a savings when you consider the cost of gas, guns, bullets, clothing, etc. that hunting entails.


Goldi,
It's a chance to get rid of them for a whole week. That is priceless. What I love is a few weeks before where they keep harping how much work it is to trek around in the woods. Get up in the dark and walk in the cold woods and how us women just don't understand how tough hunting season is. Told him then just stay home. Said Oh no we need the meat. (I don't eat it). Sound familiar?
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