A word re: words

July 28th, 2008 6:48 pm · 7 comments

The best book I’ve read about show business (not that there’s a lot of competition) is “Cavett,” by the former late-night talk-show host Dick Cavett (duh) with his college pal, journalist Christopher Porterfield, published in 1974. I recently found the book in my attic, beyond dog-eared, after assuming it had been long, long gone.

There are very, very few books in any canon I’d describe as “compulsively readable”. This is one. Anyway, your correspondent is a huge fan of the language and words. When they’re appropriated, diminished or even ruined by political and/or cultural purposes much smaller than the Mother Tongue, as almost all political and/or cultural purposes are, well, that pisses me off. Here are Cavett and Porterfield with an example I bet you havent thought of in a long time, if ever:

“I must say the word “gay,” is about the silliest choice of a word for homesexual. How was it picked? It means joyous or exuberant, and what that has to do with homosexuality is anybody’s guess. Should straight people be called “glums”? It follows that the proper word for bisexual would be something akin to manic-depressive. Gay was such a good word before it was appropriated; when read aloud today from literature of the 18th and 19th century, it invariably gets a laugh.”

“Appropriated,” is exactly the right word for what’s happened to gay, a word that has literally been redefined. At least it wasn’t done, as far as I can tell, for deliberate political reasons. Forget “liberal”, which was buried years if not decades ago. Consider “agenda,” as in the accusatory: “Everyone knows he has his own agenda.” Who doesn’t? Who shouldn’t?

That’s at least less partisan than the butcher job currently being done on “elite” or, better, “elitism”, or best, “the elite” which it is now bad to be a part of. Then there’s the “Ivy League elite,” reviled by millions, almost all of whom would jump at the chance to send their children to Harvard or Yale or Princeton and then bore you into a coma bragging about it.

The nadir of this dumbness, for me, came a couple years ago when ESPN’s boorish Chris Berman suggested the word dynasty must be redefined to reflect “the realities of the salary cap era.” Sorry, Boomer. Even the Worldwide Leader doesn’t get to redefine words. Depressing footnote: Berman went to Brown. He’s part of the Ivy League elite.

Interesting, and very different, takes on the “elite” nonsense can be found here and here.

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  7 comments  Tags: language · politics · dumbness

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dragonrider
7/28/08
8:52 PM
QUOTE(Lancaster Online @ Jul 28 2008, 06:50 PM) [snapback]416701[/snapback]


Post your thoughts and comments about this blog post.
Perhaps if I try one more time. I believe the derivation of Gay comes from Nosegay to be attibuted to effeminate men and homosexuals. As does the word Pansie come from the same derivation. But I would ask why would this be your first example of a word which has changed meaning over time?

My other posts were rejected I guess becuase of the fallibility of censor software.

AngelFace
7/28/08
10:24 PM
QUOTE(dragonrider @ Jul 28 2008, 08:52 PM) [snapback]416738[/snapback]

Perhaps if I try one more time. I believe the derivation of Gay comes from Nosegay to be attibuted to effeminate men and homosexuals. As does the word Pansie come from the same derivation. But I would ask why would this be your first example of a word which has changed meaning over time?

My other posts were rejected I guess becuase of the fallibility of censor software.


Okay, is it not the irony of ironies that a post BY LOL regarding WORDS and their changing meaning, which lists words in the posted article, now CENSORS YOUR USE of the same words????? LOL invites discussion and then stops the discussion.

Considering the last two ludite discussion starters which were lewd, as well as disgustingly racist, ya gotta either laugh, cry, or scratch your head at the absurdity of censoring YOUR posts!!!

edit to correct spelling (rats!!!)
dragonrider
7/28/08
10:41 PM
QUOTE(AngelFace @ Jul 28 2008, 10:24 PM) [snapback]416758[/snapback]


Okay, is it not the irony of ironies that a post BY LOL regarding WORDS and their changing meaning, which lists words in the posted article, now CENSORS YOUR USE of the same words????? LOL invites discussion and then stops the discussion.

Considering the last two ludite discussion starters which were lewd, as well as disgustingly racist, ya gotta either laugh, cry, or scratch your head at the absurdity of censoring YOUR posts!!!

edit to correct spelling (rats!!!)
I was trying to use the word fa##ot and how that word which at one time referred to a bundle of kindling can not be used at all becuase its insulting reference to homosexuals and the use of bundles of sticks to burn homosexuals at the stake.
AngelFace
7/28/08
11:44 PM
QUOTE(dragonrider @ Jul 28 2008, 10:41 PM) [snapback]416768[/snapback]

I was trying to use the word fa##ot and how that word which at one time referred to a bundle of kindling can not be used at all becuase its insulting reference to homosexuals and the use of bundles of sticks to burn homosexuals at the stake.



The other day on the thread that got a little heated about newbies posting, I tried to say that citydweller is really a pu$$ycat, and it posted with the word PROFANITY. I ended up saying, kittycat -- which really sounds STUPID, but I hadn't figured out the whole SYMBOL thing for letters (which works remarkably well, BTW). The whole thing is BIZARRE considering that a 4 letter word for poop was a TITLE on the News thread today until it was changed this afternoon.
mgross
7/29/08
9:37 AM
QUOTE(dragonrider @ Jul 28 2008, 08:52 PM) [snapback]416738[/snapback]
Perhaps if I try one more time. I believe the derivation of Gay comes from Nosegay to be attibuted to effeminate men and homosexuals. As does the word Pansie come from the same derivation. But I would ask why would this be your first example of a word which has changed meaning over time?

My other posts were rejected I guess becuase of the fallibility of censor software.



The only reason it was the first example was re-reading the Cavett book was what got me thinking about the topic.




QUOTE(dragonrider @ Jul 28 2008, 08:52 PM) [snapback]416738[/snapback]
Perhaps if I try one more time. I believe the derivation of Gay comes from Nosegay to be attibuted to effeminate men and homosexuals. As does the word Pansie come from the same derivation. But I would ask why would this be your first example of a word which has changed meaning over time?

My other posts were rejected I guess becuase of the fallibility of censor software.

Hope
7/29/08
9:47 AM
QUOTE(mgross @ Jul 29 2008, 09:37 AM) [snapback]416881[/snapback]

The only reason it was the first example was re-reading the Cavett book was what got me thinking about the topic.


I enjoyed the article and share your curiosity. The examples were quite appropriate to the topic.
dragonrider
7/29/08
1:37 PM
QUOTE(Hope @ Jul 29 2008, 09:47 AM) [snapback]416892[/snapback]


I enjoyed the article and share your curiosity. The examples were quite appropriate to the topic.
Why am I not suprised Birds of a feather would be my guess.
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