I’m fat

May 8th, 2008 2:04 pm · 55 comments

JEFFREY REINHART jreinhart@LNPnews.com

I’m sure that headline caught your eye.

But it’s also the truth: My weight has gotten way, way, way out of control.

If you didn’t hear, we spent the last two and half weeks driving around the country on vacation, and I ate three meals out a day. That certainly didn’t help matters much.

I’m going on a dietTo top it off, I’m a Type II diabetic, and I take insulin shots every day. And I pop a handful of pills (to control my sugar levels) every morning and every evening — and I’m getting pretty sick and tired of that.

So I’ve decided to finally do something about it.

I’ve ordered a popular, over-the-counter diet program, which arrived on Wednesday. I started it bright and early Thursday (and also walked on our treadmill for 30 minutes!).

Yeah, some people would call it a fad diet. But I know it works, and I know it will help me - if I stay focused and determined.

My goal? Lose about 100 pounds. Yeah, 100. That’s a lot of weight. But I have to admit: I have at least 100 pounds to lose.

What I thought I would do is post something on here, probably weekly, charting my progress. And since I’ll be posting something on my blog for all to see, I’m hoping it will keep me motivated.

So I hope you enjoy following my progress, in between reading my L-L League updates.

Consider this update No. 1 …

DATE: May 8.
STARTING WEIGHT: (wait for it) 319 (according to the scale in our bathroom, which made a funky noise when I stepped on it this morning).

That’s the heaviest I’ve ever been, and I’m doing something about it, starting now.

Wish me luck.

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Alyssarah1
5/8/08
2:25 PM
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Wish me luck.


Good luck, Jeffrey. Please stick with it and keep us posted on your progress. That's one of the best gifts you can give to yourself.

dragonrider
5/8/08
2:32 PM
Good luck I have been trying to get started sin Jan 1 and only negative progress with 140 lbs to lose. weighing in at 295 will post with you for mutual support.
Shawn
5/8/08
2:33 PM


This may seem minor, but if you don't have one already, I highly suggest getting yourself a digital scale. I started a diet at the beginning of the year with one of those old dial scales, that aren't very accurate. After a few weeks I bought a digital scale. I was so much more motivated once I started seeing accurate weight measurements and could see exactly how I was doing. It is motivating to see a change from one day to the next, even if it is only a matter of ounces. It validates that what you are doing is working. Now that I've lost the weight I wanted to use, I still weigh my self every day and can quickly tell if I'm starting to get off course, and can adjust accordingly.



Later...Shawn

Alyssarah1
5/8/08
2:43 PM
QUOTE(dragonrider @ May 8 2008, 02:32 PM) [snapback]387132[/snapback]
Good luck I have been trying to get started sin Jan 1 and only negative progress with 140 lbs to lose. weighing in at 295 will post with you for mutual support.


What a good idea. Maybe TB can get a little group thing going. It's always easier to reach a goal if others are going for that goal with you.





Bigby_M
5/8/08
2:56 PM
I lost 100 pounds in one hour last year. At a casino in London.
Pericles
5/8/08
3:06 PM
QUOTE(Shawn @ May 8 2008, 02:33 PM) [snapback]387133[/snapback]


This may seem minor, but if you don't have one already, I highly suggest getting yourself a digital scale. I started a diet at the beginning of the year with one of those old dial scales, that aren't very accurate. After a few weeks I bought a digital scale. I was so much more motivated once I started seeing accurate weight measurements and could see exactly how I was doing. It is motivating to see a change from one day to the next, even if it is only a matter of ounces. It validates that what you are doing is working. Now that I've lost the weight I wanted to use, I still weigh my self every day and can quickly tell if I'm starting to get off course, and can adjust accordingly.

Later...Shawn



Shawn,

I must have a cheap digital scale, because mine will sometimes fluctuate several pounds from stepping on, stepping off, and then stepping back on.

What kind of scale do you have and how much did it cost?


QUOTE(dragonrider @ May 8 2008, 02:32 PM) [snapback]387132[/snapback]
Good luck I have been trying to get started sin Jan 1 and only negative progress with 140 lbs to lose. weighing in at 295 will post with you for mutual support.


Now get started. No more excuses. We want to see results. laugh.gif

If you're as passionate about weight loss as you are about politics, I know you'll be able to do.

Good luck.
Shawn
5/8/08
3:10 PM
QUOTE(Pericles @ May 8 2008, 03:03 PM) [snapback]387158[/snapback]


Shawn,

I must have a cheap digital scale, because mine will sometimes fluctuate several pounds from stepping on, stepping off, and then stepping back on.

What kind of scale do you have and how much did it cost?




I bought it about 3 months ago at BJs, I'm not sure of the brand, but I'll check tonight. I've been really impressed. When I first got it, I kept getting off and back on to see if it would generate the same weight. I did it about 10 times, and got the same weight, to the tenth of a pound, each time. I assumed they were all that accurate. I do know that when I step on the scale, it takes about 5 - 10 seconds or so to register the weight. I think it does a lot of measures internally before stablizing. It takes longer if I'm not perfectly still. Then, to take another measurement I have to step off, reset it, then get back on after it resets to 0.



I cut out all bread, pasta, sugar, rice, potatoes, and ate as much meat, veggies, fruit and low-carb or no-carb snacks as I wanted. I lost about 15 pounds in 3 months with no exercise.



Later...Shawn

justbcause
5/8/08
3:25 PM
Best of luck to you, Jeff.
It's a terrible struggle and life long commitment to lose weight and keep it off. Easy to put on but hard as ever to take off. I started to modify my eating habits and lost about 25# since Jan. '08. I'm in the 100+ club. UNfortunately it's starting to creep back up slowly and I find myself trying HARD to get back in control.
It seems every one around me wants to keep eating pizza and chocolate and I'm weak! lol_ohno.gif
A good tool that I use (when I'm good) is www.fitday.com, a place to keep track of everything eaten. It's just your basic tracking with no frills, and free of course. It has some nice tools to track your progress.
Best wishes to everybody trying to lose ###



Alyssarah1
5/8/08
3:25 PM
QUOTE(Shawn @ May 8 2008, 03:10 PM) [snapback]387164[/snapback]



I cut out all bread, pasta, sugar, rice, potatoes, and ate as much meat, veggies, fruit and low-carb or no-carb snacks as I wanted. I lost about 15 pounds in 3 months with no exercise.



Later...Shawn



Shawn, what snacks do you eat? I get the munchies around this time every day and am really sick of rice cakes.

My nephew was a competitive power lifter, so I questioned him about specifics for some spot toning. He gave me a book Body for Life by Bill Phillips and Michael D'Orso. It's great to lose weight, but it's even better to combine it with the body toning.

Pericles
5/8/08
3:42 PM
QUOTE(Shawn @ May 8 2008, 03:10 PM) [snapback]387164[/snapback]


I bought it about 3 months ago at BJs, I'm not sure of the brand, but I'll check tonight. I've been really impressed. When I first got it, I kept getting off and back on to see if it would generate the same weight. I did it about 10 times, and got the same weight, to the tenth of a pound, each time. I assumed they were all that accurate. I do know that when I step on the scale, it takes about 5 - 10 seconds or so to register the weight. I think it does a lot of measures internally before stablizing. It takes longer if I'm not perfectly still. Then, to take another measurement I have to step off, reset it, then get back on after it resets to 0.

I cut out all bread, pasta, sugar, rice, potatoes, and ate as much meat, veggies, fruit and low-carb or no-carb snacks as I wanted. I lost about 15 pounds in 3 months with no exercise.

Later...Shawn



Thanks. I'm interested in purchasing one.

That sounds sort of like the No flour No sugar diet, or Atkins.

I know Atkins is very effective, and not as bad as everyone says, but I sure do crave bread when I'm on that diet. A cheesesteak is not the same without the bun and pizza is not the same with just the cheese. laugh.gif


Shawn
5/8/08
3:54 PM
QUOTE(Alyssarah1 @ May 8 2008, 03:25 PM) [snapback]387173[/snapback]

Shawn, what snacks do you eat? I get the munchies around this time every day and am really sick of rice cakes.

My nephew was a competitive power lifter, so I questioned him about specifics for some spot toning. He gave me a book Body for Life by Bill Phillips and Michael D'Orso. It's great to lose weight, but it's even better to combine it with the body toning.


For snacks, I browse the grocery store looking for things that are low-carb or no-carb. The best no-carb snack for me is Pork Rinds. They have no carbs, and satisfy my taste for chips. I also will eat cold cuts and cheese. For low-carb, I eat nuts, and the low-sugar or no-sugar peanut butter. I also found these things that are some kind of puffy peas. Almost like a cheese puff or cheeto, but made with peas somehow. I forget what they are called, but they are low carb and tasty! Other than that, lots of meats and veggies. When I eat out, I usually get chicken wings/celery/blue cheese, or a steak salad, that kind of thing. Stay away from the things labled as "low fat". They are usually supplemented with sugar/carbs.

Later...Shawn

QUOTE(Pericles @ May 8 2008, 03:42 PM) [snapback]387182[/snapback]

Thanks. I'm interested in purchasing one.

That sounds sort of like the No flour No sugar diet, or Atkins.

I know Atkins is very effective, and not as bad as everyone says, but I sure do crave bread when I'm on that diet. A cheesesteak is not the same without the bun and pizza is not the same with just the cheese. laugh.gif


I don't know if you are a Costco member or not, but the flyer that came out this week has a coupon for a nice digital scale.

Several years ago, I did the strict Atkins diet. I didn't need to loose as much weight this time, so I kind of relaxed the rules a little and did more of a no flour no sugar diet. But I also restrict potatoes and rice. So, I guess it is more of a No Flour, No Sugar, No Starch diet.

The first 2 weeks or so of the diet are the worst. I literally go through withdraw craving bread/pasta/potatoes/rice, etc.

Now that I am at my desired weight, I generally stick to the diet during the week, then eat what I want on the weekends. I can easily gain a few pounds over the weekend, then loose it throughout the following week. The digital scale helps me see how I'm doing with that.

Later...Shawn

Edited to add: I just remembered another of my favorite no-carb snacks when on this diet -- Beef Jerkey.
Pericles
5/8/08
4:11 PM
QUOTE(Shawn @ May 8 2008, 03:49 PM) [snapback]387185[/snapback]




For snacks, I browse the grocery store looking for things that are low-carb or no-carb. The best no-carb snack for me is Pork Rinds. They have no carbs, and satisfy my taste for chips. I also will eat cold cuts and cheese. For low-carb, I eat nuts, and the low-sugar or no-sugar peanut butter. I also found these things that are some kind of puffy peas. Almost like a cheese puff or cheeto, but made with peas somehow. I forget what they are called, but they are low carb and tasty! Other than that, lots of meats and veggies. When I eat out, I usually get chicken wings/celery/blue cheese, or a steak salad, that kind of thing. Stay away from the things labled as "low fat". They are usually supplemented with sugar/carbs.

Later...Shawn



Here's a few more: Slim jims, dried squid (from the oriental market), cooked shrimp, pork rinds dipped in pimento cheese, beef jerky and low carb yogurt (3 carbs per serving). Also, don't get fooled by the net carbs labeling, it's baloney.



QUOTE(Shawn @ May 8 2008, 03:54 PM) [snapback]387185[/snapback]


Now that I am at my desired weight, I generally stick to the diet during the week, then eat what I want on the weekends. I can easily gain a few pounds over the weekend, then loose it throughout the following week. The digital scale helps me see how I'm doing with that.

Edited to add: I just remembered another of my favorite no-carb snacks when on this diet -- Beef Jerkey.


That's exactly what I've done in the past. Stick to Atkins during the week and then eat whatever I want on the weekends, and it works.

I always lose weight in the spring, keep it off until the fall, and then gain it back over the winter.

I also read and found that you can eat as much as you want at a single meal as long as you stop within a hour. I seems odd, but it works.


mam0412
5/8/08
4:33 PM
QUOTE(Pericles @ May 8 2008, 03:42 PM) [snapback]387182[/snapback]


Thanks. I'm interested in purchasing one.

That sounds sort of like the No flour No sugar diet, or Atkins.

I know Atkins is very effective, and not as bad as everyone says, but I sure do crave bread when I'm on that diet. A cheesesteak is not the same without the bun and pizza is not the same with just the cheese. laugh.gif


Pericles, I too used to crave carbs when I dieted (note, I said used to). Do you get to the point that it almost feels like an addiction? You MUST have carbs or you'll die?



Jeffrey - Best of luck! I know how hard it is. If you'd care to share which online diet you're using, I'd be interested.

Kate
5/8/08
5:06 PM
LNP could start the "Biggest Loser" online. Jillian Michaels of the TV version has her own website with interesting articles, recipes and plans for losing weight.

I've been trying to lose about 50 pounds for a while. As we get older it is much harder to slim down as our metabolism slows down.

Good luck Jeff, Keep us informed of your progress.
harv1
5/8/08
5:44 PM
About fifteen years ago I was walking by a mirror at the mall and thought to myself 'who is that fat pig.' It was me...

Treadmill and reduced calories knocked off the pounds. If you want to eat 1200 calories of chocolate it's the calories that matter.

But what I actually did was this: I wrote down everything I ate each day and added up the calories to be sure I didn't go over 1200. Then, every Friday, I went to the local Sears that had a digital scale that gave you a receipt with your weight. I still have those receipts and the little book I kept. I also recorded how many miles I walked on the treadmill every day as well.

And to treat myself, every night if I was up after 11 p.m. I ate two or three Hershey Kisses to satisfy my chocolate cravings and fall asleep feeling satisfied.

It worked and I've pretty much kept the weight off. I lost it over a year's time. Forty pounds. I think because I lost it slowly, it changed my metabolism for the better.

Just another idea for someone who's looking for a way to lose weight and keep it off. Exercise up; calories down.
Goldilocks
5/8/08
6:26 PM
QUOTE(Shawn @ May 8 2008, 02:10 PM) [snapback]387164[/snapback]

I bought it about 3 months ago at BJs, I'm not sure of the brand, but I'll check tonight. I've been really impressed. When I first got it, I kept getting off and back on to see if it would generate the same weight. I did it about 10 times, and got the same weight, to the tenth of a pound, each time. I assumed they were all that accurate. I do know that when I step on the scale, it takes about 5 - 10 seconds or so to register the weight. I think it does a lot of measures internally before stablizing. It takes longer if I'm not perfectly still. Then, to take another measurement I have to step off, reset it, then get back on after it resets to 0.



I cut out all bread, pasta, sugar, rice, potatoes, and ate as much meat, veggies, fruit and low-carb or no-carb snacks as I wanted. I lost about 15 pounds in 3 months with no exercise.



Later...Shawn



Just curious Shawn, did you allow yourself beans and dairy products?



dragonrider
5/8/08
6:50 PM
QUOTE(mam0412 @ May 8 2008, 04:33 PM) [snapback]387199[/snapback]


Pericles, I too used to crave carbs when I dieted (note, I said used to). Do you get to the point that it almost feels like an addiction? You MUST have carbs or you'll die?



Jeffrey - Best of luck! I know how hard it is. If you'd care to share which online diet you're using, I'd be interested.

I know I am addicted to carbs, It must be the release of endorphins that keep me addicted, I know I just feel mentally better after a bag of chips but then I feel guilty and the scale keeps going up and up.
Shawn
5/8/08
9:19 PM
QUOTE(Goldilocks @ May 8 2008, 06:26 PM) [snapback]387216[/snapback]

Just curious Shawn, did you allow yourself beans and dairy products?




I did eat cheese, but not much other dairy. When I was on the strict atkins, I wouldn't eat beans. Now, I will eat them every now and then.



Later...Shawn

tugrad
5/8/08
9:20 PM
I would love to lose 25lbs. Docs and wife say NO! But weigh the most I ever have. I was on steroids for about 9 mos and I just can't get the extra weight off.
Pericles
5/9/08
7:43 AM
QUOTE(mam0412 @ May 8 2008, 04:33 PM) [snapback]387199[/snapback]

Pericles, I too used to crave carbs when I dieted (note, I said used to). Do you get to the point that it almost feels like an addiction? You MUST have carbs or you'll die?


I was raised that way. As a kid, watching my dad make a sandwich out of everything, even radishes and fried potatoes. Yes, I'm addicted.


peddler
5/9/08
7:52 AM
QUOTE(Shawn @ May 8 2008, 03:10 PM) [snapback]387164[/snapback]




I bought it about 3 months ago at BJs, I'm not sure of the brand, but I'll check tonight. I've been really impressed. When I first got it, I kept getting off and back on to see if it would generate the same weight. I did it about 10 times, and got the same weight, to the tenth of a pound, each time. I assumed they were all that accurate. I do know that when I step on the scale, it takes about 5 - 10 seconds or so to register the weight. I think it does a lot of measures internally before stablizing. It takes longer if I'm not perfectly still. Then, to take another measurement I have to step off, reset it, then get back on after it resets to 0.



I cut out all bread, pasta, sugar, rice, potatoes, and ate as much meat, veggies, fruit and low-carb or no-carb snacks as I wanted. I lost about 15 pounds in 3 months with no exercise.



Later...Shawn





Shawn,

Have you noticed any affect on your memory or quickness to think?

Studies have shown this to be the case in a low carb diet

you are right on, lower your carb intake and you WILL lose weight

Bigby_M
5/9/08
8:15 AM

Want to lose 30 lbs of ugly fat?

Cut off your head. laugh.gif
Scout
5/9/08
8:21 AM
QUOTE(tugrad @ May 8 2008, 09:20 PM) [snapback]387245[/snapback]
I would love to lose 25lbs. Docs and wife say NO! But weigh the most I ever have. I was on steroids for about 9 mos and I just can't get the extra weight off.




Hate to say, I agree with your wife and doc, Tu ... I can't imagine where you could lose 25 from?!?

mam0412
5/9/08
8:54 AM
QUOTE(Pericles @ May 9 2008, 07:43 AM) [snapback]387314[/snapback]

I was raised that way. As a kid, watching my dad make a sandwich out of everything, even radishes and fried potatoes. Yes, I'm addicted.


Well, this may be too much information, but I finally determined what was causing me to be so freakin' addicted to carbs. I love carbs and still do, but I noticed that every time I dieted, I would actually get addicted to carbs - almost like a heroine addict at times - I would get horrible anxiety attacks if I didn't have carbs (I suppose it's better to be addicted to carbs than heroine!). And I always felt miserable, weak, tired, achy, etc. And my blood sugar was out of control. It happened in my 20s, my 30s, and now in my 40s. I just couldn't figure out why, if I was trying to eat better and exercise more, I felt worse than if I pigged out on fries or crackers or even cookies. I had an overgrowth of yeast in my gut. It is NOT just a woman's problem! If your gut is out of balance, this is what happens. It manifested in my sinuses, not where you'd think it would for a woman, so who knew? It also actually caused me to have allergic reactions to things I'm not allergic to. And if it rained, I'd get the biggest sinus headache ever. What was happening was as I was eating better and exercising more, the yeast was dying - causing the obnoxious carb cravings - since yeast feeds on carbs. Kind of a Catch-22. Anyway, the thing that helped me the most was digestive enzymes and probiotics (or lots and lots of yogurt) and really cutting back on carbs for a while. The enzymes kill the yeast and the probiotics or yogurt feed the good gut bacteria that you need to overpower the bad yeast. I think I've nearly kicked it after 4 months. I feel so much better and absolutely no cravings. I'm better able to focus on the diet and exercise so I can lose weight now and have dropped a size without trying all that much.



Some causes for this happening are a poor diet loaded with carbs, taking antibiotics for long periods of time, steroids, and hormone drugs. Always eat extra, extra yogurt when you're on antibiotics or these other drugs. I think what caused it for me was antibiotics I took as a teenager, so that's how long I've had this issue (I'm in my 40s now). I took tetracycline for acne for years as a teen.



QUOTE(peddler @ May 9 2008, 07:52 AM) [snapback]387320[/snapback]

Shawn,

Have you noticed any affect on your memory or quickness to think?

Studies have shown this to be the case in a low carb diet

you are right on, lower your carb intake and you WILL lose weight



I would also add, that my memory was pretty poor with my yeast problem. I can confirm that a low carb diet (and getting rid of yeast) does improve your memory and helps you lose weight.

Scubabike420
5/9/08
9:41 AM
Some very good advice mam0412. Western medicine has almost no clue when it comes to all the little critters living in our digestive system. In the good old days before modern day food processing and microwave ovens, we ingested all kinds of good bacteria from fruits and veggies that weren't completely clean. This desire to sanitize our houses leaves us with very little opportunity to supply our digestive systems with good bacteria which results in yeast taking over. Probiotics are key to kicking carb cravings. Eating slow burning carbs like whole grains will also help control blood sugar levels.

Food has become too available in our lives and unfortunately it typically isn't a bowl of fruit or a hand full of nuts. My family has made a significant effort to change what is available to eat in our house. There is always a bowl of apples, bananas, pears and walnuts on our table. The fridge always has containers of a variety of veggies cut up and ready to eat like broccoli and radishes. I found that hard boiled eggs are great for satisfying that strong snack urge so we usually have them in the fridge too. This stuff also makes it easy to make a quick salad by using a bag of mixed greens. Add chick peas or some microwaved chicken nuggets to make the salad more satisfying. Seasame sticks or those crunchy chinese noodles add variety to salad too.

If you have a good sense of humor and tend to have more liberal values I highly suggest a book called "How to Eat Like a Hot Chick". No significant diet revelations but good advice for those who go out on weekends or find yourself in a lot of social settings. My wife really enjoyed the book and it helps you have a more positive view of yourself and your eating habits. Her favorite part of the book is when the author makes the claim that she is pretty sure the hamburger you eat at 3 AM after drinking does not count if you don't remember it.
Shawn
5/9/08
9:46 AM
QUOTE(peddler @ May 9 2008, 07:52 AM) [snapback]387320[/snapback]

Shawn,

Have you noticed any affect on your memory or quickness to think?

Studies have shown this to be the case in a low carb diet

you are right on, lower your carb intake and you WILL lose weight




In the short term, as in the first couple of weeks, I did notice some of those things. I attribute it to the body acting the same was as when a smoker stops smoking cold turkey, or an alcoholic stops drinking. In fact, I think every time I've started this diet, I've had flu like symptoms for the first week or two. After you get over those first few weeks though, things really seem to level out and I feel like I can think clearer than before I started cutting out carbs. During those first weeks is when having the digital scale really helps. Stepping on that every morning and seeing that the weight is coming off, even if it is only a few ounces, really helps motivate to get through the first few weeks.



Later...Shawn

Alyssarah1
5/9/08
10:05 AM
Thanks for the great snack tips. I'll start off with the pork rinds when I get the afternoon munchies.

You know it's time to go on a diet when............



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tugrad
5/9/08
10:08 AM
QUOTE(Scout @ May 9 2008, 08:21 AM) [snapback]387333[/snapback]




Hate to say, I agree with your wife and doc, Tu ... I can't imagine where you could lose 25 from?!?



You're so sweet! Thank you!

mam0412
5/9/08
10:55 AM
QUOTE(Scubabike420 @ May 9 2008, 09:41 AM) [snapback]387373[/snapback]
Some very good advice mam0412. Western medicine has almost no clue when it comes to all the little critters living in our digestive system. In the good old days before modern day food processing and microwave ovens, we ingested all kinds of good bacteria from fruits and veggies that weren't completely clean. This desire to sanitize our houses leaves us with very little opportunity to supply our digestive systems with good bacteria which results in yeast taking over. Probiotics are key to kicking carb cravings. Eating slow burning carbs like whole grains will also help control blood sugar levels.

Food has become too available in our lives and unfortunately it typically isn't a bowl of fruit or a hand full of nuts. My family has made a significant effort to change what is available to eat in our house. There is always a bowl of apples, bananas, pears and walnuts on our table. The fridge always has containers of a variety of veggies cut up and ready to eat like broccoli and radishes. I found that hard boiled eggs are great for satisfying that strong snack urge so we usually have them in the fridge too. This stuff also makes it easy to make a quick salad by using a bag of mixed greens. Add chick peas or some microwaved chicken nuggets to make the salad more satisfying. Seasame sticks or those crunchy chinese noodles add variety to salad too.

If you have a good sense of humor and tend to have more liberal values I highly suggest a book called "How to Eat Like a Hot Chick". No significant diet revelations but good advice for those who go out on weekends or find yourself in a lot of social settings. My wife really enjoyed the book and it helps you have a more positive view of yourself and your eating habits. Her favorite part of the book is when the author makes the claim that she is pretty sure the hamburger you eat at 3 AM after drinking does not count if you don't remember it.




You are exactly right about Western medicine. My doctor would not even discuss a yeast problem with me. He was nice about it and came short of calling me crazy, but I'm sorry, I know my body better than he does and I didn't have diabetes. It was only when I tried dieting that I felt bad and had all these problems. Nothing but yeast explains that. I will look for that book, it sounds like a treat. Love the theory about the 3am hamburger!!



QUOTE(Shawn @ May 9 2008, 09:46 AM) [snapback]387375[/snapback]

In the short term, as in the first couple of weeks, I did notice some of those things. I attribute it to the body acting the same was as when a smoker stops smoking cold turkey, or an alcoholic stops drinking. In fact, I think every time I've started this diet, I've had flu like symptoms for the first week or two. After you get over those first few weeks though, things really seem to level out and I feel like I can think clearer than before I started cutting out carbs. During those first weeks is when having the digital scale really helps. Stepping on that every morning and seeing that the weight is coming off, even if it is only a few ounces, really helps motivate to get through the first few weeks.

Later...Shawn



Shawn - the flu-like symptoms are consistent with dying yeast. You do have to push through it to get better. You have to feel worse before you feel better.

Shawn
5/9/08
11:27 AM
QUOTE(mam0412 @ May 9 2008, 10:55 AM) [snapback]387418[/snapback]

Shawn - the flu-like symptoms are consistent with dying yeast. You do have to push through it to get better. You have to feel worse before you feel better.




Yeah, it seems to take about 1 - 2 weeks before things get better. Other than cutting out carbs, what other things do you eat or take to keep the yeast down? Anything other than the probiotic yogurt?



Later...Shawn

solitary
5/9/08
11:47 AM
I don't have answers for everyone's complaints, but I'd like shed some light on some problems people have mentioned what I know and have expienced.
First off, forget everything you know about dieting. "Dieting" is at best a short term fix and more than likely a long term set up for more overfat problems. Notice, I said overfat, not overweight.
I'm 5'8", currently 200lbs. So according to the wonderful BMI Chart, I'm the perfect weight for an NBA basketball player.(See below)
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According to this same chart, I'm significantly overweight. I should be at most 165.
I work out, I do manual labor. The lowest weight I ever remember being was right around 170lbs. This was after a God awful flu that I didn't eat or drink (other than forcing orange juice down my throat) for two weeks.
I wear size 33 jeans and 34 dress pants. Right now, I'm right around 22% body fat. (The acceptable range for men is 20-25%, women is much higher, up to 31%).
You don't want to lose weight, you want to lose fat, you're not overweight, you're overfat.
So every dieter thinks "all I need to do is cut calories", which is mostly true. You don't want to cut too many which is the biggest pitfall of all dieters. Cutting all the complex carbs (bread, pasta, starchy veggies), all the fat, all the simple carbs (sugar) is going to set you up for insane cravings and eventual failure. You need to eat a normal diet in reasonable proportions. You need fat to process certian nutrients. So throw out the fat free dressing, you may as well eat cardboard, you'd probably get more of the nutrition out of that than a salad with fat free dressing. Your body actually runs on sugar, but you don't want to feed it just sugar and you don't want to eliminate all the sugar either. Forget any food with a label that says "zero carbs", "zero surgar" (unless you're diabetic, talk to your doctor), "zero fat". They're advertising gimmicks.
Diets don't work.
In fact, I'm going to stop calling it dieting, I'm calling it nutritional rehabilitation.
So for your nutritional rehabilitation, eat reasonable amounts of healthy food, give in to cravings every once in a while, once a week, go to your favorite steak house, drink a beer and have a good time.
And I highly recommend buying a copy of Muscle and Fitness, they have awesome recipes, they taste good, they're not outrageously expensive. They have real fitness advice for beginners. Then go to your favorite department store and buy a set of adjustable dumbells (55lbs is good to start). I used to recommend York, but their stuff is expensive and made in the same place the stuff in the department store is (china). Omni Fitness also has some great equipment at reasonable prices.
Last, monitor your body size, not weight. A taylor's tape will cost you about a buck and is worth every penny.
You can also buy a body-fat scale, they all work the same way, so they're all about the same quality, unless you go really expensive, the $30 model and the $70 model will work the same.
If you don't want to buy a scale, use this calculator, with basic nutritional requirements (ugly page, good calc): http://www.scientificpsychic.com/fitness/diet.html forget the BMI part.

If anybody knows if Qunicy is still around, I'd bet she has some more specific advice for women.
solitary
5/9/08
1:15 PM
Since this is a "diet" thread, I figured I'd finish my thoughts after lunch. biggrin.gif
If you've been posting in this thread, you know that regular soda is packed with sugar At 12 teaspoons per serving, that quickly can lead to a spare tire.
You probably didn't realize that diet soda is even worse.
Diet or regular, it's full of sodium too. Excess sodium in your body is counteracted by excess water. It shows up by bloating your skin, giving you the appearance of being fatter than you really are.
Quit the soda habit cold turkey, don't cut back, just drop it. I drink about one serving of regular soda about once a month, usually because where ever I'm at doesn't have any alternatives. Most of the time I drink brewed iced tea. I recommend staying away from mass produced teas, they have as much sodium as soda and lots of sugar. I drink a lot of water too. This is important cause it flushes a lot of the crap you've poured in your gut out. Initially it will cause significant weight gain, this goes away after a week or so.
Eat frequent small meals. When I'm "leaning out" I eat about seven times a day. You'll probably do well with five. This increases your metabolism, unlike traditional diet thinking, less is better, this actually encourages your body to slow down making it harder to lose fat. Your body thinks it's a famine and will store as much fat as possible.
I eat lots of lean protein, chicken, fish, roast beef and turkey. I balance each protein portion with two to three times as much vegetables, usually baked potatoes, mixed veggies and sometimes baked french fries. Oatmeal and frosted mini-wheats are great for breakfast. I eat yogurt, fruit and protein shakes for snacks (one mid-morning, one mid-afternoon).
You may have seen some of my other posts where I've said "I weigh about 180" or 185. So why would you take advice from me now that it's perhaps six months later and I'm up 20 lbs? Well, I'm trying something different. Like I said, I work out. I work out to build mass. The problem is to do this, you need reasonable amounts of rest. I don't get that because five days a week, I go to Fed Ex and move tons of boxes. So I've adopted a different strategy. Competing body builders do something like this, they work out hard to gain mass, eat more than their body can use (which is stored) then a few months before competition, strip the fat using lots of cardio, strict food intake and relaxed mass workouts.
So I'm in the second phase of that, cardio, cardio cardio. Since it's crappy weather in the winter and there's all those wonderful food holidays, it's easy for me to spend more time in my home gym and eat a little more than I should. Now it's warming up, so I can spend more time running outside. I'll still spend some time in my gym, but not as much.
So my last piece of advice is get moving! Go to the track, run down your street, just go. Take a marker, an old piece of cloth, an odd ball rock, or just remember the house number of where you turned around last time, run just a little bit farther, even a hundred feet each time (moving your marker each time), then turn around and go home, try to do it just a bit faster (think seconds) than the last time.
Beth
5/9/08
1:51 PM
QUOTE(dragonrider @ May 8 2008, 06:50 PM) [snapback]387219[/snapback]

I know I am addicted to carbs, It must be the release of endorphins that keep me addicted, I know I just feel mentally better after a bag of chips but then I feel guilty and the scale keeps going up and up.



QUOTE(mam0412 @ May 9 2008, 10:55 AM) [snapback]387418[/snapback]



Shawn - the flu-like symptoms are consistent with dying yeast. You do have to push through it to get better. You have to feel worse before you feel better.


Back in 99 I needed surgery, and the Dr. recomended I lose weight prior and I did. I went to LA Weight Loss (which is a perpetual diet, not for long term). I lost up to 75-80lbs. Would like to say I kept it off, but I didn't. Like I said it was a constant diet, not a practical lifestyle change.

They did tell me that I would experience flu like symptoms and they were correct. Every time since when I eat more disciplined(leaving breads out of my diet) those symptoms occur.

Regarding the carb cravings; sitting on the sidelines of an Ultimate Frisbee tourn. a few weeks ago one of the parents made a special trip to the grocery store to get chips and water for the players. She said they were better for them than gatorade to replenish the body of the minerals and salt they were losing. She worked in a hospital so I didn't question her judgement.

Perhaps you should check the nutrition label on the chip bag, maybe what you are craving is what is found in the chips themselves. Like the vitamins,minerals, and or salt your body is lacking. Not to mention they just plain taste good!! wink.gif
Replace this with a good supplement in the right form(not something you'll just poop/pee out). It might take 2-3 weeks for this supplement to have an effect, but it's worth a try.

I've pretty much come to grips with how my body is. I try to exercize 3-4 times a week at curves. I do watch and limit my sugar/breads. The family tree has a lot to do with your body shape. My cholesterol, and blood pressure are good. An EKG says my hearts ok. So I guess I'm just a cheese burger on the outside and a health nut on the inside. My sister-in-law is 5'8" weighs in at 109 soaking wet, her cholesterol is off the charts she eats Big Macs like they are going out of style, she's a cheese burger on the inside and looks like a health nut on the out side! Life's ironic isnt it?

mam0412
5/9/08
2:03 PM
QUOTE(Shawn @ May 9 2008, 11:27 AM) [snapback]387432[/snapback]

Yeah, it seems to take about 1 - 2 weeks before things get better. Other than cutting out carbs, what other things do you eat or take to keep the yeast down? Anything other than the probiotic yogurt?
Later...Shawn


It took a lot longer than 2 weeks for me. You may not have had it as badly as I did. Like Scuba suggested, if you have to do carbs, do whole grains or stick to flatbreads (pitas, tortillas). Always, always, always avoid sugar and white breads. That and the probitotics are for avoiding yeast. Other than that, I try to eat a monounsaturated fat at every meal. These are things like olives, nuts (including stuff like peanut butter), seeds (sesame, flax), avacadoes, and their related oils (olive oil, peanut oils, sesame oil, avacado oil), and yes, dark chocolate. YUM. My diet even includes chocolate and I'm losing weight. Yea!!



QUOTE(solitary @ May 9 2008, 11:47 AM) [snapback]387442[/snapback]
I don't have answers for everyone's complaints, but I'd like shed some light on some problems people have mentioned what I know and have expienced.
First off, forget everything you know about dieting. "Dieting" is at best a short term fix and more than likely a long term set up for more overfat problems. Notice, I said overfat, not overweight.
I'm 5'8", currently 200lbs. So according to the wonderful BMI Chart, I'm the perfect weight for an NBA basketball player.(See below)
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According to this same chart, I'm significantly overweight. I should be at most 165.
I work out, I do manual labor. The lowest weight I ever remember being was right around 170lbs. This was after a God awful flu that I didn't eat or drink (other than forcing orange juice down my throat) for two weeks.
I wear size 33 jeans and 34 dress pants. Right now, I'm right around 22% body fat. (The acceptable range for men is 20-25%, women is much higher, up to 31%).
You don't want to lose weight, you want to lose fat, you're not overweight, you're overfat.
So every dieter thinks "all I need to do is cut calories", which is mostly true. You don't want to cut too many which is the biggest pitfall of all dieters. Cutting all the complex carbs (bread, pasta, starchy veggies), all the fat, all the simple carbs (sugar) is going to set you up for insane cravings and eventual failure. You need to eat a normal diet in reasonable proportions. You need fat to process certian nutrients. So throw out the fat free dressing, you may as well eat cardboard, you'd probably get more of the nutrition out of that than a salad with fat free dressing. Your body actually runs on sugar, but you don't want to feed it just sugar and you don't want to eliminate all the sugar either. Forget any food with a label that says "zero carbs", "zero surgar" (unless you're diabetic, talk to your doctor), "zero fat". They're advertising gimmicks.
Diets don't work.
In fact, I'm going to stop calling it dieting, I'm calling it nutritional rehabilitation.
So for your nutritional rehabilitation, eat reasonable amounts of healthy food, give in to cravings every once in a while, once a week, go to your favorite steak house, drink a beer and have a good time.
And I highly recommend buying a copy of Muscle and Fitness, they have awesome recipes, they taste good, they're not outrageously expensive. They have real fitness advice for beginners. Then go to your favorite department store and buy a set of adjustable dumbells (55lbs is good to start). I used to recommend York, but their stuff is expensive and made in the same place the stuff in the department store is (china). Omni Fitness also has some great equipment at reasonable prices.
Last, monitor your body size, not weight. A taylor's tape will cost you about a buck and is worth every penny.
You can also buy a body-fat scale, they all work the same way, so they're all about the same quality, unless you go really expensive, the $30 model and the $70 model will work the same.
If you don't want to buy a scale, use this calculator, with basic nutritional requirements (ugly page, good calc): http://www.scientificpsychic.com/fitness/diet.html forget the BMI part.

If anybody knows if Qunicy is still around, I'd bet she has some more specific advice for women.


All good advice Solitary!! In fact, I have also decided not to look at this as a diet. That has always sabotaged me. Now, my goal is not to lose weight. My goal is to be healthy. If I lose weight as a result, then that's just a bonus. I'm keeping with this attitude and it helps!

Beth
5/9/08
2:20 PM
QUOTE(mam0412 @ May 9 2008, 02:03 PM) [snapback]387505[/snapback]


Now, my goal is not to lose weight. My goal is to be healthy. If I lose weight as a result, then that's just a bonus. I'm keeping with this attitude and it helps!


Are you sure we weren't separated at birth. My thoughts exactly. Food doesn't have the hold on me it once did when I was up tight about my weight.
mam0412
5/9/08
2:24 PM
QUOTE(Shawn @ May 9 2008, 11:27 AM) [snapback]387432[/snapback]

Yeah, it seems to take about 1 - 2 weeks before things get better. Other than cutting out carbs, what other things do you eat or take to keep the yeast down? Anything other than the probiotic yogurt?
Later...Shawn


Oh, and one other thing. I noticed from other threads that you are a bit of a wino. I love wine! Unfortunately, so does yeast. Have to cut back on that - at least for a while. The yeast was causing me to have 2-day hangovers on only 3 glasses of wine. I'm not a lightweight when it comes to wine either. I can put it down very well thanks, but not when yeast is a problem! I've heard stories of cops pulling people over who appeared to be driving drunk but they hadn't had any alcohol - they just had a yeast problem. Yeast can make you feel drunk even when you're not!



QUOTE(Beth @ May 9 2008, 02:20 PM) [snapback]387515[/snapback]


Are you sure we weren't separated at birth. My thoughts exactly. Food doesn't have the hold on me it once did when I was up tight about my weight.


LOL - perhaps we were! I'm the same way. I used to come in to work and immediately think about what I was going to do for lunch. Now, I'm lucky if I think about lunch when the cafeteria is still open.

dragonrider
5/9/08
2:29 PM
I like the approach of some new folks of right sizing for the individual, the weight Queen Latifah is comfortable with for herself is not the same as for some one else we each need to decide on a right size that is appealing to us and healthier than we are at now.
solitary
5/9/08
3:39 PM
QUOTE(mam0412 @ May 9 2008, 02:03 PM) [snapback]387505[/snapback]
All good advice Solitary!! In fact, I have also decided not to look at this as a diet. That has always sabotaged me. Now, my goal is not to lose weight. My goal is to be healthy. If I lose weight as a result, then that's just a bonus. I'm keeping with this attitude and it helps!

QUOTE(Beth @ May 9 2008, 02:20 PM) [snapback]387515[/snapback]
Are you sure we weren't separated at birth. My thoughts exactly. Food doesn't have the hold on me it once did when I was up tight about my weight.


Great for both of you.

I realized that I said I'd relay my experience.
This started in 2005, right before thanksgiving. In 2002, I was in a small motorcycle fender bender. Nothing major, but it was enough to upset my normal workout routine of 60 mins/per weekday. At that time, I worked out mostly to eat what ever I wanted. My other activities were normal, drive a desk, lounge around type stuff. I had huge gains in mass.
Well after the accident, I did two workouts. The first shortly after the accident, the next maybe a week after. That one lasted two whole reps and I got a splitting headache, so I stoppped working out, waiting out the headaches.
Well the headaches went away, but I never got back on track.
So like I said, it's Thanksgiving-ish 2005, and I've gotten chunky. I was somewhere in the 30% body fat range, about 215.
I picked up M&F "Book of Abs", which was a leaning-out, get a six-pack 80-page magazine.
I followed the recipes to a T. I didn't follow the work-outs as well, but I did workout with the excercises they mentioned for a month or two, then onto a mass-building routine. In four months, I was down to 18% body fat and actually up in muscle mass, a pound or two. I think I stopped the nutritional rehabilitation at six months, I was at 16% body fat. (still no six-pack, you gotta get down to 8-10% for that. Women may be in the 12% range, but they gotta really work on building abs)
I was still outside of my BMI range at 178lbs.

The recipes sometimes don't look good, alot of times they don't sound good, they taste decent, some even taste really good but if you can stick through the first few days your body will adapt to being fed often and what I experienced for the first time in a long time, I wasn't hungry. I am always hungry.
Plus this particular group of recipes also includes a cheat-night. Eat what ever you want, as much as you want, in one sitting. That's where the enormous steak, pile of fries, an appetizer and a few beers came in. Tell me Jenny Craig lets you do that.

One last thing, to any of the ladies who think if they pick up a dumbbell they'll turn into Ahrnohld. First, you don't have the hormones to do that if you work out an hour a day. I don't have the hormones to do that if I work our for three hours a day. To get really huge, it requires intense discipline, lots of time and training. So don't worry, iron isn't going to make you look like a man.
In fact, if you talk to a trainer (they'll need to see you in person), he can probably give you a routine which will increase your bust slightly while toning your arms and legs to make you look more like a woman and less like the blob you feel like you are.

One more thought, when you buy ground chuck, check the label. Most of it's 80% lean, some it's 73% lean. I buy the 93% lean for two reasons. First, if you don't start off with lots of excess fat, you won't eat it, second, most of the fat melts off, so it ends up in the pan or grill, you throw it out. If you buy the more lean stuff, it costs more, but you discard less, so it works out a better buy in the long run. I've seen the 96% lean ground meat, it's a little too lean if you ask me, it's way more expensive than 93% and it's dry.

edit: where's the beef!
Shawn
5/9/08
4:20 PM
QUOTE(mam0412 @ May 9 2008, 02:24 PM) [snapback]387516[/snapback]

Oh, and one other thing. I noticed from other threads that you are a bit of a wino. I love wine! Unfortunately, so does yeast. Have to cut back on that - at least for a while. The yeast was causing me to have 2-day hangovers on only 3 glasses of wine. I'm not a lightweight when it comes to wine either. I can put it down very well thanks, but not when yeast is a problem! I've heard stories of cops pulling people over who appeared to be driving drunk but they hadn't had any alcohol - they just had a yeast problem. Yeast can make you feel drunk even when you're not!




Luckily, I haven't found wine to have that kind of affect on me. That being said, I only generally drink it when I'm having a good meal. When I do though, I usually drink 1/2-3/4 of a bottle with the meal. I feel pretty good, but never get a hang-over from it. I almost always drink extremly dry wine, so I think the sugar content is a little lower than sweeter wines. That being said, I only drink it a few times a month. I like to collect bottles, then break one out for special dinners. I don't drink it every evening or anything like that.



Later...Shawn

mam0412
5/9/08
5:15 PM
QUOTE(Shawn @ May 9 2008, 04:20 PM) [snapback]387574[/snapback]

Luckily, I haven't found wine to have that kind of affect on me. That being said, I only generally drink it when I'm having a good meal. When I do though, I usually drink 1/2-3/4 of a bottle with the meal. I feel pretty good, but never get a hang-over from it. I almost always drink extremly dry wine, so I think the sugar content is a little lower than sweeter wines. That being said, I only drink it a few times a month. I like to collect bottles, then break one out for special dinners. I don't drink it every evening or anything like that.
Later...Shawn


Hey Shawn - I didn't mean to imply you were an alcoholic! I realized that may have come across that way. My wine friends and I call ourselves winos. We really aren't though. Like you, we just drink it once or twice a month. I meant wino as a "term of endearment" if you will - as in a fellow wine lover. I typically don't have wine hangovers either unless I drink more than a bottle in a night, but that is very, very rare. Only when the yeast is out of control do I get a hangover on very little wine.

Alyssarah1
5/9/08
5:24 PM
QUOTE(solitary @ May 9 2008, 03:39 PM) [snapback]387558[/snapback]



One last thing, to any of the ladies who think if they pick up a dumbbell they'll turn into Ahrnohld. First, you don't have the hormones to do that if you work out an hour a day. I don't have the hormones to do that if I work our for three hours a day. To get really huge, it requires intense discipline, lots of time and training. So don't worry, iron isn't going to make you look like a man.


I work out with dumbbells 3 times/wk. I don't think I look like Ahrnohld. blink.gif I alternate days doing this with a treadmill workout the other 3 days (1 day free). The treadmill workout is done at the highest incline with 5# weights on each ankle. I'm no speed demon, but I do 1-1/2 miles in a half hour. BTW, if I'm reading that chart correctly, my BMI is about 20. Good, bad, you tell me.

This has been a very informative thread. Let's all thank Jeffrey for getting fat so we could learn something. wink.gif

tugrad
5/9/08
7:16 PM
QUOTE(dragonrider @ May 9 2008, 02:29 PM) [snapback]387520[/snapback]
I like the approach of some new folks of right sizing for the individual, the weight Queen Latifah is comfortable with for herself is not the same as for some one else we each need to decide on a right size that is appealing to us and healthier than we are at now.


Queen Latifah is hot!

Shawn
5/9/08
9:35 PM
QUOTE(mam0412 @ May 9 2008, 05:15 PM) [snapback]387586[/snapback]

Hey Shawn - I didn't mean to imply you were an alcoholic! I realized that may have come across that way. My wine friends and I call ourselves winos. We really aren't though. Like you, we just drink it once or twice a month. I meant wino as a "term of endearment" if you will - as in a fellow wine lover. I typically don't have wine hangovers either unless I drink more than a bottle in a night, but that is very, very rare. Only when the yeast is out of control do I get a hangover on very little wine.




No worries, I didn't take it that way. Proud to be a fellow wino!



Later...Shawn

Paul Sweedlepipe
5/10/08
12:58 AM
QUOTE(mam0412 @ May 9 2008, 11:24 AM) [snapback]387516[/snapback]

Oh, and one other thing. I noticed from other threads that you are a bit of a wino. I love wine! Unfortunately, so does yeast. Have to cut back on that - at least for a while. The yeast was causing me to have 2-day hangovers on only 3 glasses of wine. I'm not a lightweight when it comes to wine either. I can put it down very well thanks, but not when yeast is a problem! I've heard stories of cops pulling people over who appeared to be driving drunk but they hadn't had any alcohol - they just had a yeast problem. Yeast can make you feel drunk even when you're not!
LOL - perhaps we were! I'm the same way. I used to come in to work and immediately think about what I was going to do for lunch. Now, I'm lucky if I think about lunch when the cafeteria is still open.


what's the deal with yeast? it doesn't live in your "gut" as you said before and it doesn't make you sick unless you're immunocompromised. Is there a name for your condition? I used to work in microbiology and this is sounding really weird to me.

Scherzophrenic
5/10/08
12:49 PM
QUOTE(Kate @ May 8 2008, 05:06 PM) [snapback]387201[/snapback]
LNP could start the "Biggest Loser" online. Jillian Michaels of the TV version has her own website with interesting articles, recipes and plans for losing weight.

I've been trying to lose about 50 pounds for a while. As we get older it is much harder to slim down as our metabolism slows down.

Good luck Jeff, Keep us informed of your progress.




That's a good idea, Kate. I fear public humiliation, though, so that might be an effective deterrent for me.

mam0412
5/10/08
1:15 PM
Paul - It's candida and it absolutely lives in the gut. It doesn't need air to survive. It's also on the skin. It's everywhere, and you can't completely get rid of it. But it's when there's an overgrowth (imbalance) that it's a problem.

What exactly is a compromised immune system? I've heard the term and I may have that. How does one know? Are there symptoms? I have been allergy tested and have some sensitivities, but nothing that would be classified as an allergy. Also, isn't there cause and effect? Does a compromised immune system cause a candida overgrowth or vice versa? A number of my sensitivities have gone away now that the candida is under control.
tugrad
5/10/08
3:55 PM
QUOTE(mam0412 @ May 10 2008, 01:15 PM) [snapback]387778[/snapback]
Paul - It's candida and it absolutely lives in the gut. It doesn't need air to survive. It's also on the skin. It's everywhere, and you can't completely get rid of it. But it's when there's an overgrowth (imbalance) that it's a problem.

What exactly is a compromised immune system? I've heard the term and I may have that. How does one know? Are there symptoms? I have been allergy tested and have some sensitivities, but nothing that would be classified as an allergy. Also, isn't there cause and effect? Does a compromised immune system cause a candida overgrowth or vice versa? A number of my sensitivities have gone away now that the candida is under control.


Usually the term referrs to people with HIV. The virus compromises the immune system making the person more suspectible to infections. I know that people who have had transplants also have comromised immune systems because of the anti-rejection drugs they must take. Many cancer treatments also compromise the immune system.

mam0412
5/10/08
7:30 PM
Thanks TU! Nothing I've read explained it. I don't have a compromised immune system.
tugrad
5/10/08
9:26 PM
QUOTE(mam0412 @ May 10 2008, 07:30 PM) [snapback]387843[/snapback]
Thanks TU! Nothing I've read explained it. I don't have a compromised immune system.


You are welcome. I do have a compromised immune system.

mam0412
5/11/08
11:19 AM
I'm so sorry to hear that TU. I hope you are able to keep it at bay as best as possible!
solitary
5/12/08
8:42 AM
QUOTE(Alyssarah1 @ May 9 2008, 05:24 PM) [snapback]387591[/snapback]
I work out with dumbbells 3 times/wk. I don't think I look like Ahrnohld. blink.gif
You have no idea how many times I've been in a discussion like this with a woman who thinks that pumping iron will "pump you Op". It can with a good workout if you're a guy, it takes insane workouts for women to build significant amounts of mass. Look at the world's strongest women's contests. Every competitor at best has biceps the size of mine (16 inches), these women train every day to lift huge amounts of weight for many hours, I train about an hour a every other day.
QUOTE(Alyssarah1 @ May 9 2008, 05:24 PM) [snapback]387591[/snapback]
I alternate days doing this with a treadmill workout the other 3 days (1 day free). The treadmill workout is done at the highest incline with 5# weights on each ankle. I'm no speed demon, but I do 1-1/2 miles in a half hour.
I go for the "ultimate burn", at the end of your session, it should be difficult, but not impossible, to walk up stairs. If your legs feel like jello you're doing it right. If your legs feel like someone has been beating on them for your entire session with a sledge hammer and you can't walk, you went too far. If you can't move your leg(s), you went way too far and should probably visit the ER.
QUOTE(Alyssarah1 @ May 9 2008, 05:24 PM) [snapback]387591[/snapback]
BTW, if I'm reading that chart correctly, my BMI is about 20. Good, bad, you tell me.
BMI is meaningless, but it's easy to calculate. This isa government standard, like most government created figures, it needs improvement.
QUOTE(Alyssarah1 @ May 9 2008, 05:24 PM) [snapback]387591[/snapback]
This has been a very informative thread. Let's all thank Jeffrey for getting fat so we could learn something. wink.gif
Ankle and wrist weights are really bad for your joints. Use a weight vest instead, it distributes the additional weight across your shoulders and thus across the rest of your body evenly. The ankle weights are especially bad because they pull in the direction your ankles are not made to support (as opposted to carrying dumbells).
solitary
5/14/08
1:37 PM
I know this thread has gotten stale, but I gotta ask, are your kids making you fat? I know mine are. I took my daughter and a friend of hers to a baseball game last night. Now to me, the food is ungodly expensive and all too often disappointing. The temptation to buy a nacho platter only to find the chips stale and soggy, the cheese crusty and the chili wouldn't pass for dog food with a reminder of a missing Benjamin out of my wallet is enough to keep me out of the stadium.
But occasionally, we go. So last night, we get there and I bought a bottle of water. I was gonna buy beer, but the GF said she'd kill me. While in my family, it's no big deal, I think it might have something to do with my daughter's friend's parents.
So that was $2.75 for a .5L bottle of water. Ok, I'll swallow that.
Well, later, it was ice cream cones and french fries. So the fries go partially unfinished and since I like them, try to not eat them (like make them at the house), and it's my four bucks, I figure, hey, why not? Well, that's when it occurred to me that my kids make me eat so much stuff. Half a candy bar, the french fries, the last cookie in the container that they didn't take because if they did, the container would need to be thrown out (that's work!), half a cheeseburger that they swore they would eat two, "I'm SOOOO HUNGRY!".
So the time has come for a portion control clamp down on my kids.
A side note, this is also to blame on my old man, who while growing up reminded me of the starving children in Africa who would love to eat the bread crust I didn't eat.
dragonrider
5/14/08
2:20 PM
5 days and six pounds, off to a good start.
Alyssarah1
5/14/08
3:12 PM
QUOTE(solitary @ May 14 2008, 01:37 PM) [snapback]389069[/snapback]
I know this thread has gotten stale, .......


I'm glad you brought it up again. Thanks for the feedback. I'd like to know how Jeffrey is doing and how many are joining him in the fight against flab.

solitary
5/15/08
2:07 PM
I see he's got an update:
http://blogs.lancasteronline.com/jeffreyre.../15/diet-update

Jeff, you keep up the good habits you've started this week, you're in for a lifetime of feeling a lot better.

edit: contrary to popular belief, I can't spell.
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